Topic 'Re: Hearings unlikely to get very far' in forum '' - dslreports.com http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Hearings-unlikely-to-get-very-far-22628311 en Fri, 10 Feb 2012 00:57:56 EDT Fri, 10 Feb 2012 00:57:56 EDT Re: Hearings unlikely to get very far http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Hearings-unlikely-to-get-very-far-22628729
What a great country for Internet]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Hearings-unlikely-to-get-very-far-22628729 Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:08:01 EDT Re: Hearings unlikely to get very far http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Hearings-unlikely-to-get-very-far-22628632 said by ThrowDemsOut:

said by AVD:

said by ThrowDemsOut:
You don't need DPI at the ISP level for that.
No, but it will make it easier.
Actually, no; since it's easier to interpret data if you got information from all sources collected into a central repository, which is then processed using state of the art packet inspection/data mining equipment, than getting however much information from disparate equipment you have no real control over from random ISPs. So, for "national security," what they'd really be after would be a method of getting a copy of the information stream, which they can analyze later and/or in relative "real-time."]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Hearings-unlikely-to-get-very-far-22628632 Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:48:48 EDT Re: Hearings unlikely to get very far http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Hearings-unlikely-to-get-very-far-22628609
DPI is the internet version of wiretapping. Wiretapping has good and lawful uses and the permissions and restrictions for wiretapping are set in law. DPI is a useful tool for network maintenance and other lawful purposes, nobody wants to end those. What we do want is clarity over when its use on our communications networks crosses the line into inappropriate uses.

discl.: I am Chief Technologist of the Open Technology Initiative of the New America Foundation and I speak for them as well as myself on this issue. (As a long-time member of DSLReports, I usually speak only for myself and therefore don't use such a disclosure.)
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While I agree with your points about governments desires there tk, this could be used for consumer privacy purposes. We all know the potential and actual abuses that dpi can cause. This could serve 2 purposes; it could curb current and future abuses, and it could also be used as a tool to inform the congress about dpi and it's possible uses. This way when Congress sees companies that abuse dpi, they can not say they never knew what it was!
Amazing how it is brought into the spotlight now.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Hearings-unlikely-to-get-very-far-22628598 Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:41:40 EDT Re: Hearings unlikely to get very far http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Hearings-unlikely-to-get-very-far-22628435 --
BF69~~~Please stop suffocating gerbils!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Hearings-unlikely-to-get-very-far-22628435 Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:16:07 EDT Re: Hearings unlikely to get very far http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Hearings-unlikely-to-get-very-far-22628355 said by AVD:

said by ThrowDemsOut:

The current admin is no different than the previous admin in wanting the ABILITY to tap in to the internet in the interests of national security.
You don't need DPI at the ISP level for that.
No, but it will make it easier.

And the government(DARPA) is already looking at ways to interpret all the captured info:
»www.readwriteweb.com/archives/da···_web.php
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The current admin is no different than the previous admin in wanting the ABILITY to tap in to the internet in the interests of national security.
You don't need DPI at the ISP level for that.
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So somehow I doubt this drive to prevent the rollout at all is going anywhere. There is a bi-partisan desire of the gov't to have spying capabilities available for use.
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