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wayjac
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join:2001-12-22
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·AT&T Midwest

reply to jfeise
Re: [Modem] Motorola 2210 doesn't respond to ping

said by jfeise See Profile :

So, it seems that ICMP is blocked.
Is there a way around that, other than bridge mode (which I don't really want to do)?
The modem in the other thread has a different software version 7.7.3r5 If the modem has been set to drop icmp pings the only workaround is bridge mode

There are some other ways to access the modem when its in bridge mode

jfeise

join:2009-03-27
Santa Ana, CA

said by wayjac See Profile :

The modem in the other thread has a different software version 7.7.3r5
Well, I tried that firmware as well (downloaded from »att-training.net/firmware.html)
I even tried the 7.7.3r7 Southeast firmware (which has some other issues), but none of them responded to a ping from the outside.

If the modem has been set to drop icmp pings the only workaround is bridge mode

There are some other ways to access the modem when its in bridge mode
As I said, bridge mode is not what I want to do. The last time I did a PPPoE setup on my Linux box was about 10 years ago when I had an ISDN line, and it was a bit of a pain, if I remember right...
Accessing the modem is not the major issue, the major issue is that in bridge mode I can't just connect another computer to the modem (for example, for my testing I just plug my netbook in), I would have to install PPPoE handling on any computer that I want to connect.

I talked with level 2 support from AT&T, and the guy recommended a 2-Wire 2701, but that has a router built-in (and useless wireless without WPA), as far as I can tell. I don't know if the 2-Wire can be set to give one computer on the LAN side the WAN IP address.


wayjac
Premium,MVM
join:2001-12-22
Indy
·AT&T Midwest

said by jfeise See Profile :

I even tried the 7.7.3r7 Southeast firmware (which has some other issues), but none of them responded to a ping from the outside.
The "bellsouth" user interface displays more if not all of the router options.
It may be that the setting you need is labeled with a term other than "ping" and its overlooked
Can you give more details about your "(which has some other issues)" comment

I think the "bellsouth" gui is your last option before bridge mode or replacing the modem

said by jfeise See Profile :

I talked with level 2 support from AT&T, and the guy recommended a 2-Wire 2701, but that has a router built-in (and useless wireless without WPA), I don't know if the 2-Wire can be set to give one computer on the LAN side the WAN IP address.
The 2wire 2701HG-B supports wpa-psk and wpa2-psk authentication it also has a "dmzplus mode" where one computer shares the public ip address

jfeise

join:2009-03-27
Santa Ana, CA

said by wayjac See Profile :

The "bellsouth" user interface displays more if not all of the router options.
It may be that the setting you need is labeled with a term other than "ping" and its overlooked
Can you give more details about your "(which has some other issues)" comment
It didn't give the public IP address to the computer. It kept renewing the 192.168.1.64 address all the time. But I was able to get out to another machine on the Net, and try the ping from there.
While the bellsouth interface has more options, I didn't see anything ping or ICMP related.

I think the "bellsouth" gui is your last option before bridge mode or replacing the modem

The 2wire 2701HG-B supports wpa-psk and wpa2-psk authentication it also has a "dmzplus mode" where one computer shares the public ip address
Thanks for the info. Looks like it fits my requirements then. I won't use the wireless, though, since I already have an internal wireless WPA setup.


wayjac
Premium,MVM
join:2001-12-22
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·AT&T Midwest

said by jfeise See Profile :

It didn't give the public IP address to the computer. It kept renewing the 192.168.1.64 address all the time.
If you did a release....renew ip address on the computer after setting the modem to ip passthrough/dmz configuration....getting the private ip address is a problem

said by jfeise See Profile :

While the bellsouth interface has more options, I didn't see anything ping or ICMP related.
Yea.... I think its in there somewhere its just not obvious
said by jfeise See Profile :

Looks like it fits my requirements then. I won't use the wireless, though, since I already have an internal wireless WPA setup.
You should also consider a used speedstream 5100b, 4100 or 4100b dsl modem one may be a better fit

jfeise

join:2009-03-27
Santa Ana, CA

said by wayjac See Profile :

You should also consider a used speedstream 5100b, 4100 or 4100b dsl modem one may be a better fit
Well, I still have a Speedstream 4100. That started the whole issue, because the Speedstream doesn't let outbound tunneled IPv6 packets through. The Motorola does.


wayjac
Premium,MVM
join:2001-12-22
Indy
Why is the ping so important to you

jfeise

join:2009-03-27
Santa Ana, CA

said by wayjac See Profile :

Why is the ping so important to you
That also has to do with IPv6. HE's IPv6 tunnelbroker (»www.tunnelbroker.net/) tries to ping the IPv4 address to verify the tunnel.


wayjac
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join:2001-12-22
Indy
So.....the speedstream 4100 only blocks outbound IPv6 packets

The motorola 2210 blocks icmp pings

jfeise

join:2009-03-27
Santa Ana, CA

said by wayjac See Profile :

So.....the speedstream 4100 only blocks outbound IPv6 packets

The motorola 2210 blocks icmp pings
The Speedstream blocks outbound IPv6 packets encapsulated in IPv4. I didn't even try to send IPv6 directly...
But it let inbound tunneled IPv6 packets through, as tcpdump showed.

Another modem I tried was a D-Link 2320B. Ping worked, and it gave the WAN IP to the local computer, but with a DHCP lease renewal time of 15 seconds, not changeable of course...

All I need is a DSL modem that lets all packets through, and allows me to get the WAN IP address on the local computer, with a reasonable DHCP lease time.
Not too much to ask, I think


wayjac
Premium,MVM
join:2001-12-22
Indy
·AT&T Midwest

said by jfeise See Profile :

Another modem I tried was a D-Link 2320B. Ping worked, and it gave the WAN IP to the local computer, but with a DHCP lease renewal time of 15 seconds, not changeable of course...
A 15 second lease time means the client is always renewing the lease.........not a good thing
said by jfeise See Profile :

All I need is a DSL modem that lets all packets through, and allows me to get the WAN IP address on the local computer, with a reasonable DHCP lease time.
Not too much to ask, I think
I hope you're able to find what you need
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