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Re: DSLReports can't ping me!
I've noticed that some routers even when placed in bridge mode may retain some firewall settings if not disabled beforehand. |
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marti
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Thanks for the detailed instructions. I have to be in and out of the house tomorrow, so will plan on working on this problem on Thursday. I do want to make my system pingable, but I am not going to try to change settings when I don't have a lot of time.
Today, when I was trying to change the modem settings per David's instructions, I had no connectivity. Then I put the settings back to where they were -- still no connectivity! I finally had to unplug the modem from the elec source (I had been unplugging the pin from elec source to box) to get it to play nice again.
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Thank you! I printed out your instructions also, in case I have problems with the ones that Mountaineer1  posted above.
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KrK
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| Np. Mounaineer1's instructions are correct under normal circumstances, IE like with the older SpeedStream modem, you placed the modem in Bridged mode, and then used your router to login to your pppoe. However with this new AT&T modem, for whatever reason, that's not correct. I've even read the very latest version of these modem's firmware eliminates the third choice of "Bridged Mode."
I first tried bridge mode myself. I lost all Internet connectivity, and my router could not pull any IP from AT&T. Resetting the modem didn't fix it, it seemed bricked. I actually had to unplug it from the power and leave it unplugged. A couple hours later I plugged it back in and used the reset but held it reset (using a small screwdriver) for 10 seconds or so. When I released reset, the modem powered up and booted up like normal, I was able to access the modem via it's IP (I forgot offhand, I think it was »192.168.1.254) and from there I was able to select "PPPoE on the computer."
From that point on, the Dlink router now logs me in and everything works great.
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ff1324
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PPPoE on the computer is the correct setting to use with your router.
Notice the text on the screen capture that "Bridged" mode is for non-PPPoE networks.
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wayjac
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| said by ff1324 :PPPoE on the computer is the correct setting to use with your router. You can use both the difference between the two modes is
"PPP is on the computer." leaves the modem's lan dhcp server active
"Bridged Mode (PPPoE is not used)." disables the modem's lan dhcp server
said by ff1324 :Notice the text on the screen capture that "Bridged" mode is for non-PPPoE networks. What that really means is that "Bridged Mode (PPPoE is not used)." must be used with accounts that get the public ip address using dhcp or static |
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wayjac
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When you set the 2210 for "PPP is on the computer." does the internet light flash constantly? |
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| said by wayjac :When you set the 2210 for "PPP is on the computer." does the internet light flash constantly? Mine does, yes. After your question I went and watched it for about 1 minute and it appears to be flashing continuously with no variance in pattern.
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wayjac
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| That's one of the "quirks" of the modem
The PPPoE client runs when its not needed
One way to stop the flashing internet light is bridge mode.
If you look at the modems log it will have messages generated by the modems overzealous PPPoE client |
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KrK
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| said by wayjac :That's one of the "quirks" of the modem The PPPoE client runs when its not needed One way to stop the flashing internet light is bridge mode. If you look at the modems log it will have messages generated by the modems overzealous PPPoE client Problem I had when I bridged the modem is that I couldn't get logged in on the router. IE when I had the modem bridged, I had no internet connectivity at all.
Any idea why? I'm willing to try again, as I'd prefer not to have a "2nd" NAT or router in my way (the 2210) and have the D-Link be my main firewall.
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said by wayjac :That's one of the "quirks" of the modem Another quirk is that it seems to run pretty hot for such a small device.  Waste of electricity!
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d_l
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Reno, NV | That's more than a quirk. It is a defective design that forced a recall of certain serial numbers due to premature modem failures from the excessive heat. |
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| said by d_l :That's more than a quirk. It is a defective design that forced a recall of certain serial numbers due to premature modem failures from the excessive heat. Anyway I can find out these serial numbers? This thing is small and quite hot, and I both hate wasted electricity and devices that heat my home (in the summer)
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d_l
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| Its all based on hearsay in posts, but the range seems to be about 35xxxxxx (maybe slightly lower) up to 38xxxxxx and possibly up to 43xxxxxx. There has been nothing official posted, but people complaining to tech support about modems failing in that range have gotten replacements (refurbished modems).
If you have a serial number like 15xxxxxxx or higher, then it is a revised version modem. |
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wayjac
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Other than the flashing internet light being a annoyance when its in your line of sight. I don't think there are any bad effects for the end user or att
There is no "2nd" nat or "double" nat when the modem is set for
"PPP is on the computer." or "Bridged Mode (PPPoE is not used)."
said by KrK :Problem I had when I bridged the modem is that I couldn't get logged in on the router. IE when I had the modem bridged, I had no internet connectivity at all.
I can't say why you had trouble accessing the router.......
There is something you can do to make access to the bridged modem easier
Configure the computers tcp/ip properties "alternate configuration" tab with the settings in the image whenever you connect the computer to a device that has no dhcp server after the search for a dhcp server is over your computer will have the settings in the image
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KrK
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| Useful tip, thanks. The problem wasn't that I couldn't access my router, I could no problem.... but the router couldn't login to AT&T DSL even with the correct PPPoE settings. It couldn't even pull an IP down from AT&T so I had no internet connectivity at all.
Made me think I'd "broken" the modem.
I replaced it with an old Westell I had lying around and immediately my router logged on and I had an IP and internet.
I few hours later I switched it back after I was able to reset the modem (I left it unplugged for awhile.)
That's when I tried the "PPPoE is on the computer" on the 2210 and lo and behold, it worked.
I'll try again, however.
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wayjac
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| One thing I've found out the hard way that needs close attention............
When switching PPPoE clients always the first task is to end the current PPPoE session. If you don't you could end up looking at the att username/password tool page
It sounds you had other issues but I'm not certain |
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KrK
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Tulsa, OK | Yeah, I just couldn't get an IP at all. Reboot, release, renew, all to no avail. |
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David
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said by wayjac :One thing I've found out the hard way that needs close attention............ When switching PPPoE clients always the first task is to end the current PPPoE session. If you don't you could end up looking at the att username/password tool page What that's called is a "hung session state" our redbacks (as least in the 13 state) will clear the session after like 5 minutes max. If you happen to do that just wait about 5-10 minutes. the redback/bras unit should update that your session is no longer there with the atm packet and it will drop the session out of the redback/bras units.
only time I have seen a "hung session" hang around is if a piece of equipment keeps trying to constantly log in like a mad deamon. Say like 10 times in a minute if that makes sense.
WCS (Worst Case Scenario) just wait 5-10 minutes (take a break), power back up and you should be fine.
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wayjac
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| Earlier this year I was involved in a situation where a user that didn't know any better that thier user/pass was good was bamboosled by the att username/password tool page
The subscriber was redirected to the att username/password tool page, made the requested change and all was ok for a week or so then there's att username/password tool page again this time it will not work the correct password is unknown and can't be reset.
Because of a planned out of state move the subscriber closed the accounts. I'm still scratching my head over that one. |
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