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Desdinova
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join:2003-01-26
Gaithersburg, MD

Trying (Unsuccessfully) To Clone A Dual Boot Drive

I have a computer with a RAID 1 array for the boot drive that's divided into two partitions, one is XP Pro and the other is Vista Ultimate 64bit.

I want to clone the array onto two 500 GB drives but I'm having some issues. I have Paragon Hard Disk Manager Pro 2008 and I've tried to clone the individual partitions (the program doesn't seem to want to just clone the drive, partitions and all) and when it gets close to finishing up the transfer, it says the target drive has an issue and it can't complete the operation. I've tested the target drive with several apps and all of them give the target a clean bill of health, so I suspect it's Paragon that's having the problem.

Can someone recommend an app that will let me easily clone the array? I'd like to clone the target drives separately using an external enclosure (I'll swap the drives and clone them one at a time) then replace the original drives with the clones.

A free app would be nice, but if spending a few bucks will make the process more painless, I have no issues with buying something.

Thanks!

Desdinova
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join:2003-01-26
Gaithersburg, MD

Any ideas from anyone? Pretty please!?



Matt
All noise, no signal.
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join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
kudos:12

Have a look here: »Software Forum Member Choice »(Archived) Preferred Backup & Imaging Software - 2009 Member Choice

That should get you started.



janderso1
Jim
Premium,MVM
join:2000-04-15
Saint Petersburg, FL

reply to Desdinova
My suggestions

Make separate backups of each partition using something like TI2009 or TI11
Restore the backups to one of the drives
Create a raid array with the second and first drive

Note: I don’t currently use raid.

A power supply failure can kill both raid 1 drives and raid 1 cuts your disk space in half.

If either raid 0 drive fails you loose everything and raid 0 doesn’t perform much better on most applications.

Raid 5 and up are out of my price range.

Instead I use backup software (Acronis TI11 or 2009) and store the backups on at least 2 PCs.
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Jim Anderson


Desdinova
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join:2003-01-26
Gaithersburg, MD

reply to Matt
Excellent! Thank you very much!!



angussf
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join:2002-01-11
Tucson, AZ
kudos:3

reply to Desdinova
Don't know if any of these will clone a RAIDed disk, but here are a couple of possibilities. Several of them are free:

Lifehacker - GFI Backup is an Easy to Use, Free Backup Solution - Featured Windows Download
»lifehacker.com/5305592/gfi-backu···solution

Lifehacker - Five Best Windows Backup Tools - Hive Five
»lifehacker.com/398229/five-best-···up-tools
HTH
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45071419

join:2006-07-30

reply to Desdinova
Do you have a Segate drive in your system? If you do, you can download the Segate Disk Wizard (Acronis) to clone for free. Even if your array is not Segate you can boot a 3rd Segate drive on your system and then you can use the software.

I don't know how it will work for your array, but it works great cloning and restoring multiple partitions from one disk: The factory restore partition, along with the utility partition, and any partitions that I have set up.

»www.seagate.com/www/en-us/suppor···scwizard

Maybe the manufacturer of you drives provide similar free cloning tools? I use the Segate tool because it is Acronis and I have had a couple Segates in my system for quite a while.



Kilroy
Premium,MVM
join:2002-11-21
Ann Arbor, MI

reply to Desdinova
Since you're running RAID1 (Drive Mirroring) the best way to handle the situation would probably be to break the mirror and image one drive instead of trying to image the array. When you're done with the image recreate the array.
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howie1
Premium
join:2003-04-08
Antarctica
kudos:4

said by Kilroy:

"The best way to handle the situation would probably be to break the mirror."
7 years bad luck!


tvtek
Live life to its fullest
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Concord, CA
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said by howie1:

said by Kilroy:

"The best way to handle the situation would probably be to break the mirror."
7 years bad luck!
A good lawyer will get you less!

dsilvers

join:2009-05-17
Canyon Lake, TX

reply to Desdinova
Be aware thatTI2009 may have disc alignment problems that can affect disk performance when restoring partitions on a striped array. Vista and XP have different offsets and this may cause the starting location of the partition to be misaligned with the stripe unit boundry. TI 2009 sets the offset to the XP standard. I was told in another forum that Shadow Protect can handle it. I didn't try it.

Microsoft has a solution here: »support.microsoft.com/kb/929491#top

Wilders has a discussion here: »www.wilderssecurity.com/showthre···lignment

A work around might be to set up a mirrored array and run the second operating system in a VM. That would solve the misaligned partion problem but if you are running your operating systems on a separate partition from your data that won't work. I am still looking for an imaging program that can handle striped partiions.

Regards,

Dave



chachazz
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reply to Desdinova
OpenSource ClonzeZilla supports RAID.

quote:
Clonezilla does support hardware RAID, if your RAID device is seen as /dev/sda, /dev/sdb, /dev/hda, /dev/hdb, /dev/cciss/c0d0... on GNU/Linux. Clonezilla does support this.
On the other hand, if it's Linux software RAID, no, Clonezilla does not support that.
»clonezilla.org/

quote:
Clonezilla live is suitable for single machine backup and restore. While Clonezilla SE is for massive deployment, it can clone many (40 plus!) computers simultaneously. Clonezilla saves and restores only used blocks in the harddisk.
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