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Jailbreaking doesn't necessarily mean making it work on other networks. Most people that jailbreak their iphone do so because they want to run apps that are not approved by Apples draconian app store censors. |
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Why I jailbreak... |
Jailbreaking is what I do. Unlocking is what others do to use the phone on T-Mobile, etc.
There is now an MMS app that allows the 2G phones to start using MMS.
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said by MightyPez  :Jailbreaking doesn't necessarily mean making it work on other networks. Most people that jailbreak their iphone do so because they want to run apps that are not approved by Apples draconian app store censors. I am NOT an Apple fan, and I call BS on the claim that Apple is any way, shape, or manner DRACONIAN in the approval of apps for their App Store. Proof? How about that there are over 40,000 apps in the App store.
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| Seriously? That is one of the chief criticisms of the iPhone. There is a completely arbitrary standard where apps are approved or disapproved, often without much notice to the developer as to why.
These two articles are a good introduction to the problems users and developers have:
»arstechnica.com/apple/news/2009/···licy.ars
»arstechnica.com/apple/news/2008/···razy.ars |
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Just because there is volume doesn't mean the filters are not draconian.
They approve-remove apps on a whim with zero rhyme or reason. |
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said by TKJunkMail :said by MightyPez :Jailbreaking doesn't necessarily mean making it work on other networks. Most people that jailbreak their iphone do so because they want to run apps that are not approved by Apples draconian app store censors. I am NOT an Apple fan, and I call BS on the claim that Apple is any way, shape, or manner DRACONIAN in the approval of apps for their App Store. Proof? How about that there are over 40,000 apps in the App store. You mean the 39995 novelty apps that have no actual use? I'll take 5 of the "I am rich app".
In the mean time I'll putty to a server and make a call on my Windows Mobile multi-tasking device. Btw, if your putty into somewhere and you get a call on your iPhone I hope you weren't doing anything of vital importance because the app will close. The real funny part about this is that the iPhone already is multi-tasking - Apple just doesn't want the user to run multiple tasks.
And why is there an actual entity on who cares what you install on the device you own? Unless of course you really don't own the device you just bought. |
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said by ptrowski :Just because there is volume doesn't mean the filters are not draconian.
They approve-remove apps on a whim with zero rhyme or reason. I do think there is reason there. They kill apps that compete with the apps provided by Apple. They kill apps that make them look bad in the press and that will dredge up a lot of opposition from special interest groups(e.g the recent porn app). They are a company with a product to sell and they don't want their trademark smudged by controversy.
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said by TKJunkMail :said by MightyPez :Jailbreaking doesn't necessarily mean making it work on other networks. Most people that jailbreak their iphone do so because they want to run apps that are not approved by Apples draconian app store censors. I am NOT an Apple fan, and I call BS on the claim that Apple is any way, shape, or manner DRACONIAN in the approval of apps for their App Store. Proof? How about that there are over 40,000 apps in the App store. Quantity is not necessarily equal to quality... |
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said by TKJunkMail :said by ptrowski :Just because there is volume doesn't mean the filters are not draconian.
They approve-remove apps on a whim with zero rhyme or reason. I do think there is reason there. They kill apps that compete with the apps provided by Apple. They kill apps that make them look bad in the press and that will dredge up a lot of opposition from special interest groups(e.g the recent porn app). They are a company with a product to sell and they don't want their trademark smudged by controversy. The "porn app" wasn't killed by Apple, the developer pullled it and will be re-submitted. His servers could not handle the load.
Baby Shaker? That really shows a business case. Granted it was pulled after a few days, but how did it make it through in the first place?
I can understand competing applications but even then what the standards for what is approved and not approved are really not equal should we say.
It's their app store, but the QA process there needs some reviewing.
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said by k1ll3rdr4g0n :said by TKJunkMail :said by MightyPez :Jailbreaking doesn't necessarily mean making it work on other networks. Most people that jailbreak their iphone do so because they want to run apps that are not approved by Apples draconian app store censors. I am NOT an Apple fan, and I call BS on the claim that Apple is any way, shape, or manner DRACONIAN in the approval of apps for their App Store. Proof? How about that there are over 40,000 apps in the App store. You mean the 39995 novelty apps that have no actual use? I'll take 5 of the "I am rich app". In the mean time I'll putty to a server and make a call on my Windows Mobile multi-tasking device. Btw, if your putty into somewhere and you get a call on your iPhone I hope you weren't doing anything of vital importance because the app will close. The real funny part about this is that the iPhone already is multi-tasking - Apple just doesn't want the user to run multiple tasks. And why is there an actual entity on who cares what you install on the device you own? Unless of course you really don't own the device you just bought. Or you can jailbreak it and install Backgrounder that will allow you to run multiple tasks.
Nice try on pumping up Windows Mobile though.
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The porn app WAS killed by apple - your propaganda machine is borked.... |
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said by ptrowski :The "porn app" wasn't killed by Apple, the developer pullled it and will be re-submitted. His servers could not handle the load. You are going on old info. The developer didn't pull it. Apple killed it.
»news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-10273717-37.html
Thursday saw the first softcore porn app arrive for the iPhone, only to disappear hours later. Many, including myself, thought Apple had approved and then banned the app, but a note on the developer's Web site indicated that he asked for the app to be removed.
As it turns out Apple did pull the app--the company confirmed the move in a statement provided to CNET on Friday.
"Apple will not distribute applications that contain inappropriate content," Apple's statement reads. "The developer of this application added inappropriate content directly from their server after the application had been approved and distributed, and after the developer had subsequently been asked to remove some offensive content. This was a direct violation of the terms of the iPhone Developer Program. The application is no longer available on the App Store."
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The porn app WAS killed by apple - your propaganda machine is borked....
Propaganda machine? Please. I had not followed every single story, and admitted I was wrong.
Keep moving, anon.
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said by ptrowski :Then I stand corrected. The last I saw was the developer pulled it due to load on the servers. thats what the moron claimed to try and save face
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And I posted before your 'back-peddle'...
As for moving on, that is not your decision. |
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And I posted before your 'back-peddle'...
As for moving on, that is not your decision.
I did not back peddle, I said I stand corrected and can admit when wrong.
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said by EdG :
And I posted before your 'back-peddle'...
Admitting when you are wrong and being able to accept new information when it is presented, even when it is contrary to your position, is an admirable thing.
What is not admirable is to ignore arguments against one's position and refusing to reevaluate your beliefs.
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As for moving on, that is not your decision.
What the hell is that even supposed to mean? He made a statement, contradicting evidence was brought forth, and he admitted error. There isn't anything else to it... how could you not move on?
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said by ptrowski :Nice try on pumping up Windows Mobile though. Someone has to, because it's a terrible, terrible OS. |
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It's nice to be able to play Super Nintendo on my cell phone. |
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