Topic 'Re: Why' in forum '' - dslreports.com http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-22632751 en Sat, 11 Feb 2012 16:13:22 EDT Sat, 11 Feb 2012 16:13:22 EDT Re: Why http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-22645405
If you use multiple apps most of the time, alot of them use some form of internet access to get their information. Thus for full functionality you need internet access all the time (Maps for example on the iPhone).

In addition with the Pay Per Use rate at 1 cent per KB (10.24 Per MB) you can go over the $20 (2G iPhone) or $30 (3G, 3G S) Very quickly... nuff said.

(and BTW, my in-laws live in a dead zone for ATT, when I'm visiting, I can't do much with about 1/2 of my apps.... case in point)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-22645405 Thu, 02 Jul 2009 14:23:35 EDT Re: Why http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-22642922 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-22642922 Thu, 02 Jul 2009 01:27:24 EDT Re: Why http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-22641721
I've only had the Iphone for a few days and just discovered another "glitch" I'd like to see improved on. I use e-mail a lot. I receive a lot of attachments that I sometimes need to save. These are attachments I might forward to other people. I just realized I can't save attachments anywhere when I get an e-mail on my Iphone. I also can't create a message and attach anything to it.

The thing has 16gb of storage. You would think they would allow you to save stuff on it.....]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-22641721 Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:41:58 EDT Re: Why http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-22639161 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-22639161 Wed, 01 Jul 2009 11:28:43 EDT Re: Why http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-22638301
Looke, we get it. You love Windows Mobile. But you are veering off talking about your PC, etc. Just leave well enough alone.
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To be fair, I don't think either of us is going to "convince" the other that their mobile OS choice is better. However, I have used a Windows Mobile phone and found the overall experience to be unpleasant. I don't mind having to delve into the terminal on my Mac, or having to compile software on my Ubuntu box, but when it comes to a mobile phone I really do appreciate one that "just works."

In this sense I think you and I are looking for something very different when it comes to mobile phones. Personally I find the Windows Mobile OS to be relatively archaic for the vast majority of users, but I cannot ignore the fact that some users such as yourself would prefer Windows Mobile for various reasons.

I think we can agree that we should all just buy whatever suits our own needs the best.
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Glad I see the real reasoning for your apparent dislike on the iPhone though: »Re: sad]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-22637050 Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:22:59 EDT Re: Why http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-22637041
I hate that. It drives the real cost up so much. The data plans for iPhones supposedly include the extra cost to AT&T for subsidizing phones on 2 year contracts... so why does *everyone* have to pay the same price?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-22637041 Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:21:00 EDT Re: Why http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-22636984 said by Matt:

That's what you're not understanding, it *IS* the apps that make the difference. I didn't believe it either until I decided to get an iPhone because a Blackberry was too much money. Not only that, but the interface is light years ahead of WinMo.
Your logic is flawed. I just compared prices:
(Price ranges fyi)
100 - 250 (plus a 30$ refurb is up for grabs!) for blackberries
80-200 $ for iPhones

Now with an iPhone you are REQUIRED to buy a data plan (and you can't take it off), with the blackberry its optional (at least on their site it will let me checkout without needing a data plan).

To do a "real" compare:
200$ for iPhone 3GS
200$ for Blackberry Bold

iPhone minimum plan: 39.99 voice + 30 data = ~70$/month
Blackberry minimum plan: 39.99 voice = ~40$/month

I'm no mathematician but I see the Blackberry as the cheaper choice. Same thing goes for Windows Mobile as the plan's cost the same (that goes for data, voice and texting).

All that aside I think that was a red herring: »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignoratio_···_herring

First we were talking about Windows Mobile vs iPhone then you slip in the fact that you purchased an iPhone because a blackberry was too expensive, then you tell us the iPhone interface is better than Windows Mobile's.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-22636984 Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:08:07 EDT Re: Why http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-22636879 said by Matt:

said by k1ll3rdr4g0n:

Considering the intelligence of an "average person", yeah they probably would need a good UI. To be honest I have never used the iPhone UI straight up - but I have tried a "clone" on my WM device (yes it's not the same "experience") but to be honest I didn't feel like it increased my ability to navigate to all the apps in my phone. My experience from this clone is that all apps have a shortcut that you finger scroll left or right and on your "home screen" you get a bunch of information (calendar, clock ect).

Now, I obviously don't know of all features of the iPhone but on the home screen can you make folders to organize your apps (such as Games, Office ect)? Or is it just any app you install just adds another shortcut that you finger scroll left or right for?
What a ridiculously pompous, arrogant response. So because you feel everyone else is less intelligent than you, they need a UI whereas you don't? Give me a break. :uhh:

You then go on to say the iPhone sucks because you used a "clone" on your WinMo phone and go even further to claim that you don't even understand one of the most basic functions of the phone? I suggest you go to an AT&T or Apple store and try one in person. Because right now, your opinion should be listed beside the word "ignorant" in Webster's, because it is an uneducated opinion.

I wonder if the average person, who is obviously of less intelligence than you, would assume they need to actually use a device before forming their opinion on it?
Well then someone needs to calm down. For one I did not say that "everyone else" was stupid. Way to take me out of context. And I didn't say the iPhone sucked because of the UI, again way to take me out of context.

A person doesn't need to use a device to comment on it, we have a technology that has been around for a long time called "video recording". And I can watch a "video recording" of another person using a device.

And attacking me only makes any argument you make weaker. I clearly stated that I didn't know and asked for clarification. You could have clarified what I didn't know and pointed me wrong.

And the "average person" is pretty unintelligent. Notice how I never said anyone on DSLR was an "average person". Admit it or not, but if you logically look at it...how many "average people" click on the "your PC is infected download this program to fix it", "click here for a free iPod" or fall for the "please wire me money to nigera" ect ect? Obviously enough to constitute people actually trying to pull the scams. Even people will download iWork knowing full well that it could be infected with a trojan. I consider that unintelligent.

Please, do not make personal attacks against me or another member it only makes you look foolish in retrospect - or is that DSLR etticate? Should I start saying that people smell?

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Now, can someone answer my original question at hand so we can start healthy arguments?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-22636879 Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:43:04 EDT Re: Why http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-22636751 said by k1ll3rdr4g0n:

Considering the intelligence of an "average person", yeah they probably would need a good UI. To be honest I have never used the iPhone UI straight up - but I have tried a "clone" on my WM device (yes it's not the same "experience") but to be honest I didn't feel like it increased my ability to navigate to all the apps in my phone. My experience from this clone is that all apps have a shortcut that you finger scroll left or right and on your "home screen" you get a bunch of information (calendar, clock ect).

Now, I obviously don't know of all features of the iPhone but on the home screen can you make folders to organize your apps (such as Games, Office ect)? Or is it just any app you install just adds another shortcut that you finger scroll left or right for?
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It's just not worth it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-22636751 Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:15:40 EDT Re: Why http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-22636716 said by k1ll3rdr4g0n:

said by Matt:

said by Cogdis:

I like Windows Mobile. Maybe the Iphone is better (I haven't used it enough to compare) but I do like being able to run whatever apps I want without having to jailbreak my phone or kill my warranty.
It's nice to be able to play Super Nintendo on my cell phone.
I've owned 2 WinMo phones (WInMo5, 6, and 6.1) and I can assure you, everything you can do on your WinMo phone, you can do on an iPhone, plus about a thousand other things. All in a much more elegant manner than the hackish WinMo apps.
That's amazing because everything you can do on the iPhone you can do on a Windows Mobile device. Name one thing that you can do on a iPhone that you can't do on a Windows Mobile device - outside of naming specific applications that do X Y or Z I am pretty sure that they both provide the same functionality. Wifi, bluetooth, 3G, video watching, audio playing, text editing...
That's what you're not understanding, it *IS* the apps that make the difference. I didn't believe it either until I decided to get an iPhone because a Blackberry was too much money. Not only that, but the interface is light years ahead of WinMo.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-22636716 Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:05:21 EDT Re: Why http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-22636634 said by gattaca:

said by k1ll3rdr4g0n:

Personally I would rather do everything in a terminal setting.
In this case I don't think we are even in a disagreement.

One of the characteristics I'm using to evaluate phone OSes is how intuitive and responsive the UI is. For me, this is a crucial aspect of using the phone. I own an iPhone because the UI methods of accomplishing tasks completely won me over.

If you prefer to do things in a manner by which the phone's UI is not important, then I completely understand your preference for Windows Mobile.

I will say, however, that it would serve Microsoft very well to develop a mobile OS that appeals to a wider audience. Would you agree that a much larger portion of the population would prefer an easy-to-use UI?
Considering the intelligence of an "average person", yeah they probably would need a good UI. To be honest I have never used the iPhone UI straight up - but I have tried a "clone" on my WM device (yes it's not the same "experience") but to be honest I didn't feel like it increased my ability to navigate to all the apps in my phone. My experience from this clone is that all apps have a shortcut that you finger scroll left or right and on your "home screen" you get a bunch of information (calendar, clock ect).

Now, I obviously don't know of all features of the iPhone but on the home screen can you make folders to organize your apps (such as Games, Office ect)? Or is it just any app you install just adds another shortcut that you finger scroll left or right for?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-22636634 Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:49:28 EDT Re: Why http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-22636554 said by k1ll3rdr4g0n:

Personally I would rather do everything in a terminal setting.
In this case I don't think we are even in a disagreement.

One of the characteristics I'm using to evaluate phone OSes is how intuitive and responsive the UI is. For me, this is a crucial aspect of using the phone. I own an iPhone because the UI methods of accomplishing tasks completely won me over.

If you prefer to do things in a manner by which the phone's UI is not important, then I completely understand your preference for Windows Mobile.

I will say, however, that it would serve Microsoft very well to develop a mobile OS that appeals to a wider audience. Would you agree that a much larger portion of the population would prefer an easy-to-use UI?
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said by Matt:

said by ptrowski:

Nice try on pumping up Windows Mobile though.
Someone has to, because it's a terrible, terrible OS.
It's funny when people talk about next-generation mobile phone operating systems. Inevitably, they bring up the iPhone OS, Google Android, and Palm's WebOS. Windows Mobile isn't even considered (and, IMHO, it doesn't deserve to be).

Microsoft needs to step up Windows Mobile. Some of the best cell phone hardware is stuck running a kludge of a mobile operating system because of how unpolished that OS has become. Sure, you can buy a Windows Mobile phone from a hardware developer that has managed to develop a beautiful "skin" over it, but dig any deeper and Windows Mobile rears it's ugly head.

The Zune is interesting because it demonstrates that Microsoft knows how to make a good mobile media device with good software - personally I hope they *do* develop a worthy competitor to the "next-gen" phone OSes - the more choices the better.
Is artwork really your only complaint about the OS?
On every XP computer I use I always flip the theme to classic. I can't stand flashy, just give me a simple GUI to do my job at the end of the day. Personally I would rather do everything in a terminal setting. In fact my coworker uses a mail client similar to mutt to read his email - now that I think is awesome and would do it if only people didn't send me attachments and other weird HTML stuff.

If you want flashy 6.5 is supposed to be "finger friendly" interface.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-22636515 Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:24:27 EDT Re: Why http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-22636495 said by Matt:

said by ptrowski:

Nice try on pumping up Windows Mobile though.
Someone has to, because it's a terrible, terrible OS.
It's funny when people talk about next-generation mobile phone operating systems. Inevitably, they bring up the iPhone OS, Google Android, and Palm's WebOS. Windows Mobile isn't even considered (and, IMHO, it doesn't deserve to be).

Microsoft needs to step up Windows Mobile. Some of the best cell phone hardware is stuck running a kludge of a mobile operating system because of how unpolished that OS has become. Sure, you can buy a Windows Mobile phone from a hardware developer that has managed to develop a beautiful "skin" over it, but dig any deeper and Windows Mobile rears it's ugly head.

The Zune is interesting because it demonstrates that Microsoft knows how to make a good mobile media device with good software - personally I hope they *do* develop a worthy competitor to the "next-gen" phone OSes - the more choices the better.
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said by ptrowski:

Nice try on pumping up Windows Mobile though.
Someone has to, because it's a terrible, terrible OS.
I this is:
Appeal to Belief
Anyone think differently? »www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/

Here is a link for you: »www.infidels.org/library/modern/···gic.html

Please next time construct an argument before just throwing "mud". How do you think I would look if I just said "The iPhone is a terrible OS" without making any claims to backup my statement? Pretty foolish no?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-22636465 Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:12:17 EDT Re: Why http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-22636420 said by ptrowski:

Or you can jailbreak it and install Backgrounder that will allow you to run multiple tasks.
Nice try on pumping up Windows Mobile though.
I had a friend who had jailbroked (can anyone tell me what the past tense of "jailbreak" is?) his iPhone and he told me that the iPhone ran REALLY slow when he multi-tasked.

But with that aside, I'm glad you have to hack (and possibly void your warranty if something goes wrong) your phone just to get basic modern OS functionality :). Next thing you will be comparing the iPhone to DOS!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-22636420 Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:05:09 EDT Re: Why http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-22636406 said by Matt:

said by Cogdis:

I like Windows Mobile. Maybe the Iphone is better (I haven't used it enough to compare) but I do like being able to run whatever apps I want without having to jailbreak my phone or kill my warranty.
It's nice to be able to play Super Nintendo on my cell phone.
I've owned 2 WinMo phones (WInMo5, 6, and 6.1) and I can assure you, everything you can do on your WinMo phone, you can do on an iPhone, plus about a thousand other things. All in a much more elegant manner than the hackish WinMo apps.
That's amazing because everything you can do on the iPhone you can do on a Windows Mobile device. Name one thing that you can do on a iPhone that you can't do on a Windows Mobile device - outside of naming specific applications that do X Y or Z I am pretty sure that they both provide the same functionality. Wifi, bluetooth, 3G, video watching, audio playing, text editing...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-22636406 Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:02:30 EDT Re: Why http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-22636054 said by ptrowski:

Baby Shaker? That really shows a business case. Granted it was pulled after a few days, but how did it make it through in the first place?We all know it's an educational tool to show the effects of shaking babies to 1st year medical students.
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I like Windows Mobile. Maybe the Iphone is better (I haven't used it enough to compare) but I do like being able to run whatever apps I want without having to jailbreak my phone or kill my warranty.
It's nice to be able to play Super Nintendo on my cell phone.
I've owned 2 WinMo phones (WInMo5, 6, and 6.1) and I can assure you, everything you can do on your WinMo phone, you can do on an iPhone, plus about a thousand other things. All in a much more elegant manner than the hackish WinMo apps.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-22635616 Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:17:27 EDT Re: Why http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-22635501 It's nice to be able to play Super Nintendo on my cell phone.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-22635501 Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:57:09 EDT Re: Why http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-22635274 said by ptrowski:

Nice try on pumping up Windows Mobile though.Someone has to, because it's a terrible, terrible OS.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-22635274 Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:12:53 EDT Re: Why http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-22633637 said by EdG :

And I posted before your 'back-peddle'...

As for moving on, that is not your decision.
I did not back peddle, I said I stand corrected and can admit when wrong.
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As for moving on, that is not your decision. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-22633489 Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:01:08 EDT Re: Why http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-22633448 said by ptrowski:

Then I stand corrected. The last I saw was the developer pulled it due to load on the servers.
thats what the moron claimed to try and save face
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The porn app WAS killed by apple - your propaganda machine is borked....
Propaganda machine? Please. I had not followed every single story, and admitted I was wrong.
Keep moving, anon.
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The "porn app" wasn't killed by Apple, the developer pullled it and will be re-submitted. His servers could not handle the load.
You are going on old info. The developer didn't pull it. Apple killed it.

»news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-10273717-37.html
Thursday saw the first softcore porn app arrive for the iPhone, only to disappear hours later. Many, including myself, thought Apple had approved and then banned the app, but a note on the developer's Web site indicated that he asked for the app to be removed.

As it turns out Apple did pull the app--the company confirmed the move in a statement provided to CNET on Friday.

"Apple will not distribute applications that contain inappropriate content," Apple's statement reads. "The developer of this application added inappropriate content directly from their server after the application had been approved and distributed, and after the developer had subsequently been asked to remove some offensive content. This was a direct violation of the terms of the iPhone Developer Program. The application is no longer available on the App Store."

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said by ThrowDemsOut:

said by MightyPez:

Jailbreaking doesn't necessarily mean making it work on other networks. Most people that jailbreak their iphone do so because they want to run apps that are not approved by Apples draconian app store censors.
I am NOT an Apple fan, and I call BS on the claim that Apple is any way, shape, or manner DRACONIAN in the approval of apps for their App Store. Proof? How about that there are over 40,000 apps in the App store.
You mean the 39995 novelty apps that have no actual use? I'll take 5 of the "I am rich app".

In the mean time I'll putty to a server and make a call on my Windows Mobile multi-tasking device. Btw, if your putty into somewhere and you get a call on your iPhone I hope you weren't doing anything of vital importance because the app will close. The real funny part about this is that the iPhone already is multi-tasking - Apple just doesn't want the user to run multiple tasks.

And why is there an actual entity on who cares what you install on the device you own? Unless of course you really don't own the device you just bought.
Or you can jailbreak it and install Backgrounder that will allow you to run multiple tasks.
Nice try on pumping up Windows Mobile though.
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said by ptrowski:

Just because there is volume doesn't mean the filters are not draconian.
They approve-remove apps on a whim with zero rhyme or reason.
I do think there is reason there. They kill apps that compete with the apps provided by Apple. They kill apps that make them look bad in the press and that will dredge up a lot of opposition from special interest groups(e.g the recent porn app). They are a company with a product to sell and they don't want their trademark smudged by controversy.
The "porn app" wasn't killed by Apple, the developer pullled it and will be re-submitted. His servers could not handle the load.

Baby Shaker? That really shows a business case. Granted it was pulled after a few days, but how did it make it through in the first place?

I can understand competing applications but even then what the standards for what is approved and not approved are really not equal should we say.

It's their app store, but the QA process there needs some reviewing.
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said by MightyPez:

Jailbreaking doesn't necessarily mean making it work on other networks. Most people that jailbreak their iphone do so because they want to run apps that are not approved by Apples draconian app store censors.
I am NOT an Apple fan, and I call BS on the claim that Apple is any way, shape, or manner DRACONIAN in the approval of apps for their App Store. Proof? How about that there are over 40,000 apps in the App store.
Quantity is not necessarily equal to quality...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-22633250 Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:18:09 EDT Re: Why http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-22633105 said by ptrowski:

Just because there is volume doesn't mean the filters are not draconian.
They approve-remove apps on a whim with zero rhyme or reason.
I do think there is reason there. They kill apps that compete with the apps provided by Apple. They kill apps that make them look bad in the press and that will dredge up a lot of opposition from special interest groups(e.g the recent porn app). They are a company with a product to sell and they don't want their trademark smudged by controversy.
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said by MightyPez:

Jailbreaking doesn't necessarily mean making it work on other networks. Most people that jailbreak their iphone do so because they want to run apps that are not approved by Apples draconian app store censors.
I am NOT an Apple fan, and I call BS on the claim that Apple is any way, shape, or manner DRACONIAN in the approval of apps for their App Store. Proof? How about that there are over 40,000 apps in the App store.
You mean the 39995 novelty apps that have no actual use? I'll take 5 of the "I am rich app".

In the mean time I'll putty to a server and make a call on my Windows Mobile multi-tasking device. Btw, if your putty into somewhere and you get a call on your iPhone I hope you weren't doing anything of vital importance because the app will close. The real funny part about this is that the iPhone already is multi-tasking - Apple just doesn't want the user to run multiple tasks.

And why is there an actual entity on who cares what you install on the device you own? Unless of course you really don't own the device you just bought.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-22633098 Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:54:15 EDT Re: Why http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-22633080 They approve-remove apps on a whim with zero rhyme or reason. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-22633080 Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:51:21 EDT Re: Why http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-22632937
These two articles are a good introduction to the problems users and developers have:
»arstechnica.com/apple/news/2009/···licy.ars
»arstechnica.com/apple/news/2008/···razy.ars]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-22632937 Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:24:47 EDT Re: Why http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-22632927 said by MightyPez:

Jailbreaking doesn't necessarily mean making it work on other networks. Most people that jailbreak their iphone do so because they want to run apps that are not approved by Apples draconian app store censors.
I am NOT an Apple fan, and I call BS on the claim that Apple is any way, shape, or manner DRACONIAN in the approval of apps for their App Store. Proof? How about that there are over 40,000 apps in the App store.
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Jailbreaking is what I do. Unlocking is what others do to use the phone on T-Mobile, etc.

There is now an MMS app that allows the 2G phones to start using MMS.
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