fuziwuzi
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Re: [AT&T] Possible to use iPhone without the $30 data plan?
A friend has an original iPhone. Because he removed the SIM and put it into his old phone (a Moto RAZR) for a while (and thus cancelled the data plan and other iPhone specific things), when he then took the SIM and placed it back into his iPhone, he no longer had the data plan. However, because of this he also no longer could send or receive text messages and no longer received notifications of voicemail. He could use Wi-Fi. Also, after about 3 months of running this way, he received the new bill from AT&T and noticed they had added the data plan back. When he called them to ask why, they told him they detected he was using the iPhone and because the iPhone requires the data plan, it is in the TOS that they can and will add that plan back.
So, if you're running an iPhone without the data plan, at some point when they're doing audits, they will add it back for you whether you want it or not.
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IanR
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Madison, NJ | That's ONLY if you are on AT&T network plans. How about if one switched to say a prepaid T-Mobile account and put the SIM Card into an iphone? |
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Pirate515
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said by fuziwuzi  :A friend has an original iPhone. Because he removed the SIM and put it into his old phone (a Moto RAZR) for a while (and thus cancelled the data plan and other iPhone specific things), when he then took the SIM and placed it back into his iPhone, he no longer had the data plan. However, because of this he also no longer could send or receive text messages and no longer received notifications of voicemail. He could use Wi-Fi. Also, after about 3 months of running this way, he received the new bill from AT&T and noticed they had added the data plan back. When he called them to ask why, they told him they detected he was using the iPhone and because the iPhone requires the data plan, it is in the TOS that they can and will add that plan back. So, if you're running an iPhone without the data plan, at some point when they're doing audits, they will add it back for you whether you want it or not. Was your friend still under the contract when he dropped the data plan? From what I've heard, when you are signing an iPhone contract, you are agreeing to both voice and data, whereas with the other phones it's just voice and you can drop/add data as you please with no penalties.
I have read posts from some people from various web sites who were able to call AT&T and got a rep friendly enough to drop the data plan for them, only to receive a text message several minutes later stating that it was added back.
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fuziwuzi
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| Friend was no longer under contract. He wanted to save a little money so that is why he took the sim and put in his old RAZR. But after about a week he missed the iPhone too much, so put it back, but did not inform AT&T or get the data plan restored.
The AT&T TOS says that the data plan is required for the life of the phone, not just for the contract length. To use iPhone on AT&T's system, you are required to maintain the data plan. And as he discovered, they will add it back if they detect it isn't active.
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1 edit | said by fuziwuzi :Friend was no longer under contract. He wanted to save a little money so that is why he took the sim and put in his old RAZR. But after about a week he missed the iPhone too much, so put it back, but did not inform AT&T or get the data plan restored. The AT&T TOS says that the data plan is required for the life of the phone, not just for the contract length. To use iPhone on AT&T's system, you are required to maintain the data plan. And as he discovered, they will add it back if they detect it isn't active. I wonder if his iphone IMEI was still on file. If it was then of course ATT is going to come by and say they need it. The trick is to have an IMEI of a non iphone on file and many times they won't audit the account and make people move to the iphone package.
I had an original iphone on ATT for a long time and had it with the $15 a month media net but my IMEI was of an old Samsung and they never said a thing to me in the whole time I was there.
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fuziwuzi
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Atlanta, GA | I would guess that since he purchased the iPhone from AT&T, and they are the only licensed seller in the US, they maintain a list of all the IMEI of the phones they've sold. |
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