  Hazy Arc
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quote: According to the survey, 82% of home buyers who've had FTTH elsewhere rank FTTH as the leading real estate amenity
I find that extremely hard to believe.
"Well, this house is missing a roof and is in the middle of the ghetto, but by golly it has fiber! I'll take it!!!!1111111" |
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| said by Hazy Arc : quote: According to the survey, 82% of home buyers who've had FTTH elsewhere rank FTTH as the leading real estate amenity
I find that extremely hard to believe. "Well, this house is missing a roof and is in the middle of the ghetto, but by golly it has fiber! I'll take it!!!!1111111" I believe that they are referring to amenities not necessities in this study. |
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  jmn1207 Premium join:2000-07-19 Reston, VA | reply to Hazy Arc Well, that's another thing about FTTH, they ain't bringing it out to the ghetto. |
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  Hazy Arc
join:2006-04-10 Greenwood, SC | reply to kxrm Yeah...was using a bit of hyperbole, but it still seems odd that FTTH would weigh that heavily. |
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  baineschile 2600 Premium join:2008-05-10 Sterling Heights, MI | reply to kxrm What other "amenities" come with a house? Communitys with pools and tennis courts i can see, but those are usually paid for with HOA fees. |
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  Blast 420 Close the world, Open the nExt
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| reply to jmn1207 said by jmn1207 :Well, that's another thing about FTTH, they ain't bringing it out to the ghetto. The ghetto here in Tampa has FTTH. |
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  digitalfreak
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| reply to jmn1207 said by jmn1207 :Well, that's another thing about FTTH, they ain't bringing it out to the ghetto. Would that be Fiber To Tha Hood? |
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| reply to jmn1207 said by jmn1207 :Well, that's another thing about FTTH, they ain't bringing it out to the ghetto. On the contrary... |
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  Opticwonders Premium join:2009-03-31 united state | reply to digitalfreak Hehe, thats funny :P |
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  Blast 420 Close the world, Open the nExt
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  Phil Rojo Sol Premium join:2001-06-11 Camarillo, CA | reply to baineschile Well one necessity my wife and I had when buying our home was no HOA. I guess that could also be categorized as an amenity.  |
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  wifi4milez Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
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| reply to jmn1207 said by jmn1207 :Well, that's another thing about FTTH, they ain't bringing it out to the ghetto. Thats a common misconception among people on this site. Low income areas were among the first, and most widespread, to get FIOS. The whole "redlining" nonsense is just a bunch of propaganda to get peoples feathers ruffled. Ignore all those comments, they simply arent true. -- "You're Welcome" -The United States of America and our Armed Forces- Keeping the world safe since 1776
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| reply to Blast 420 said by Blast 420 :said by jmn1207 :Well, that's another thing about FTTH, they ain't bringing it out to the ghetto. The ghetto here in Tampa has FTTH. And so does the Bronx. |
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| reply to wifi4milez I worked for AT&T many years ago. Any change we made at that time were based on engineering decisions and capital cost constraints. So, when a CO that served the suburbs and the inner city (there are many of these areas) was upgraded, everyone got the upgrade.
I have always assumed that FiOS is being rolled out the same way. I doubt that the engineers could even come up with a way to redline. I also doubt that Senior Management would condone such a plan.
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join:2009-06-22 Bradenton, FL 1 edit | Just to follow up on that, Manatee County put provisions in their video contract with Verizon that they had to serve x-number of households by certain dates.
I assume other places might be different but you never know. |
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  wifi4milez Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
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| reply to MichaelWacey said by MichaelWacey :I worked for AT&T many years ago. Any change we made at that time were based on engineering decisions and capital cost constraints. So, when a CO that served the suburbs and the inner city (there are many of these areas) was upgraded, everyone got the upgrade. I have always assumed that FiOS is being rolled out the same way. I doubt that the engineers could even come up with a way to redline. I also doubt that Senior Management would condone such a plan. Just my 2 Cents. FIOS is/was rolled out exactly the same way. Redlining is a myth, constantly regurgitated on this website by the "down with America" crowd whenever its a slow news day. They need something to whine about, and GWB is no longer in office, so they make up nonsense about "redlining". Its pitiful, you would serve yourself well to simply ignore them as its just a phase. Tomorrow they will be crying about some other made up situation.... -- "You're Welcome" -The United States of America and our Armed Forces- Keeping the world safe since 1776
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  jmn1207 Premium join:2000-07-19 Reston, VA
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| reply to wifi4milez Re: What???
Fair enough, I'm not familiar with how it works. It seems that your perspective is coming from a very dense population, whereas my point of view is from a suburban sprawl with only an occasional income-assisted apartment or two here and there. It's very easy to avoid low-income serving CO's when you step outside of the megalopolis of the NY region.
Do these FTTH-equipped ghettos share CO's with any fabulously wealthy residents? I know that they seemingly built the new Yankee's stadium smack in the middle of some of the poorest (relatively speaking) neighborhoods. Certainly a project of that magnitude would have allowed for more options than would have probably been afforded otherwise. Still, unless Verizon is lighting up small towns in central Mississippi, it would seem that they are looking for rich folks first, and due to geography and urban density, stragglers may find themselves with superior potential, even if they can't afford it.
It just seems like good business sense to me. Where is it easiest to build that can handle the speeds and make us some money? Am I to believe the build out is completely random and totally subjective with regards to income class? There may be a few exceptions that can be dug up, but if Verizon is not even looking at the median income range where they are deploying a service that typically runs well over $100 each month, perhaps they could improve their subscriber numbers if they changed their strategy a bit?
In any event, clearly this survey did not include a great number of ghetto dwellers, as such things as landscaping, swimming pools, and home automation were at the top of the list. I realize our government seems to be running amok with our tax money, but I can't believe a ghetto is some posh, highfallutin resort with pools, garden gnomes, and 35Mbps symmetrical internet service. Oy! |
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