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| [Hockey] Official UFA trade thread So as not to clutter up the "draft" thread, lets put our July 1st deals in here.
I'll start off with a tasty tidbit that was talked about on Sportsnet earlier (as a possibility). Calgary sings Bowmeester. To clear cap space, they trade Phaneuf to Ottawa for Heatly.
This could be a potential jackpot for Ottawa. Get rid of a high priced player who doesn't want to play for them, and get a young solid defenseman in return. Pair him up with Cowen, and that is a defense to be reckoned with. And if Heatly though Clouston was "tough on him", I can't wait to see what he thinks of Sutter. Sutter will kick his ass if he gets out of line. 
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| Heatley to Oilers for Penner, Cogliano and Smid.
Eklund, The Score and Sportsnet say it's a done deal, TSN and RDS say no.
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| Re: [Hockey] Official UFA trade thread said by Deadpool  :Heatley to Oilers for Penner, Cogliano and Smid. Eklund, The Score and Sportsnet say it's a done deal, TSN and RDS say no. Heatley did not waive his no-movement clause. | |
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| Re: [Hockey] Official UFA trade thread said by Mauricio :said by Deadpool :Heatley to Oilers for Penner, Cogliano and Smid. Eklund, The Score and Sportsnet say it's a done deal, TSN and RDS say no. Heatley did not waive his no-movement clause. I'm glad he didn't waive it as that's a crappy trade from Ottawa's end of things IMO. Penner is an over-paid under-achiever since he signed that deal with Edmonton and I'd rather not have to pay that much for that little in return.
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| Sutter pulls it off and actually signs Bouwmeester. 5 years - $6.6 million a year.
This deal, as a Leafs fan, really pisses me off. Burke kept saying Pronger and JayBo had to get traded before the market opened up for Kaberle. Bullshit. The Flames, who have such little cap room that they had to play with 16 skaters at times last year, traded Jordan Leopold and a 3rd round pick to Florida for the chance to negotiatiate with JayBo before the UFA season started. So, Burke, are you telling me that you couldn't have done the same deal? You saying the Panthers wouldn't have rather had Kaberle than Leopold? The Leafs have the cap room to afford a player like Bouwmeester.
Imagine JayBo and Schenn on the blueline. I'm not saying that every good player has to come to the Leafs. But, this is the kind of creative deal we expect out of Burke. At least show us you're trying.
Godd job Mr. Sutter. At least you're doing whatever it takes to make your team better immediately. You've out-Burked Burke.
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1 edit | Re: [Hockey] Official UFA trade thread said by shaner :Sutter pulls it off and actually signs Bouwmeester. 5 years - $6.6 million a year. This deal, as a Leafs fan, really pisses me off. Burke kept saying Pronger and JayBo had to get traded before the market opened up for Kaberle. Bullshit. The Flames, who have such little cap room that they had to play with 16 skaters at times last year, traded Jordan Leopold and a 3rd round pick to Florida for the chance to negotiatiate with JayBo before the UFA season started. So, Burke, are you telling me that you couldn't have done the same deal? You saying the Panthers wouldn't have rather had Kaberle than Leopold? The Leafs have the cap room to afford a player like Bouwmeester. Imagine JayBo and Schenn on the blueline. I'm not saying that every good player has to come to the Leafs. But, this is the kind of creative deal we expect out of Burke. At least show us you're trying. Godd job Mr. Sutter. At least you're doing whatever it takes to make your team better immediately. You've out-Burked Burke. Jaybo was never coming to the Leafs, pretty sure they weren't on his list. | |
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| Burke is focused on the Sedin sisters and vice versa.
Sutter made a terrific move on the Boumeester deal. Probably shot a lot of teams down who were waiting for the UFA market to open.
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North York, ON | Re: [Hockey] Official UFA trade thread Burke trading for Bouw wouldn't assure that he'd have signed him.
I'd prefer not giving up assets for a player that could walk away a few days later with nothing to show for it. | |
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| Re: [Hockey] Official UFA trade thread said by idlewillkill :Burke trading for Bouw wouldn't assure that he'd have signed him. I'd prefer not giving up assets for a player that could walk away a few days later with nothing to show for it. i agree...while it would have been great to see Bowmeester in TO, that move is very risky, and in many cases, trading for the "rights" to a player doesn't work out...good job with Sutter pulling it off...the question is, does Phaneuf go and where?
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shaner
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Well, that's the hope around here anyways. Bouwmeester, Phaneuf, Sarich, and Regher. That is as dominating a defense corps as any in the NHL. | |
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London, ON | Re: [Hockey] Official UFA trade thread looking at the "big names" available, Komisarek seems to be the only one i would look at. | |
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| Y'know all these people yelling for Burke's head because so far he won't sign the sexy big name free agents miss the point.
Rebuilding the Leafs isn't a "one or two free agent signings" type deal at this point. The Leafs need time to grow as a team and plopping in a big money free agent onto such a team is a waste of time & talent IMO.
Hell, any smart UFA stays the hell away from Toronto for at least another year to see how well Burke can rebuild the team.
Give Burke a few years before saying that he's done nothing to improve the team, UFA's should not be seen as a panecea, remember the Leafs used to do that, look where it got them 
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| Re: [Hockey] Official UFA trade thread Hey, I get the whole "be patient" and rebuild. I want that. I want a dominant team for years. But, when one of the building blocks could have been had very, very cheaply (Bouwmeester), I think Burke really missed the boat on that one. JayBo is 25 years old. He and Schenn could be the blueline anchors for a decade.
I agree there was a risk that JayBo wouldn't have signed, and frankly we obviously don't know the back room shenanigans going on. Maybe JayBo asked to go to the Flames, being an Alberta boy and all, but still, it doesn't appear Burke even tried.
Instead of having press conferences announcing he's going to trade up to grab a pick nobody is ever going to give him, why not do something.
I'm all about patience. I want this team to be built right with a core of exceptional young players. JayBo could have been one of those. The Leafs cleared salary to give them room for guys like this. I'm even prepared to wait until next year when Nash and Kovy are UFA's. The Leafs may have $30 MILLION in cap space by that time.
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| Rumour has Hossa going to the hawks. They don't have plans on resigning the Bulin Wall, so would they use the extra space to get Havlat as well?
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| Leafs add some toughness in Colton Orr...four years, 1 million per year...that should help out in the toughness department, because the Leafs don't really have anyone since they traded Belak.
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Calgary, AB | Re: [Hockey] Official UFA trade thread YES! YES! YES!
Colton Orr is a fantastic signing!
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| said by dirtyjeffer :Leafs add some toughness in Colton Orr...four years, 1 million per year...that should help out in the toughness department, because the Leafs don't really have anyone since they traded Belak. A million a year to protect Schenn from himself is cheap (Don't get me wrong, I love Schenn's willingness to stand up for his teammates, but that's not why we drafted him fourth overall)
Let Orr get the bruised knuckles
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1 edit | Re: [Hockey] Official UFA trade thread yup...and reports are coming in that the Leafs have traded Kubina to Atlanta...nothing confirmed yet as the deal hasn't been "closed", but is apparently in progress...not sure who the Leafs would get back. | |
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| Re: [Hockey] Official UFA trade thread said by dirtyjeffer :yup...and reports are coming in that the Leafs have traded Kubina to Atlanta...nothing confirmed yet as the deal hasn't been "closed", but is apparently in progress...not sure who the Leafs would get back. Interesting, the way that Kubina plays (The ultimate Jekyll & Hyde player, one minute is scoring a highlight reel goal and the next giving the puck away like was in pee wee hockey) I'm wondering what Atlanta will give us back?
I can't see this as a salary dump move only, Leafs are way under the cap from the reports I've read... 
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| Colton Orr is just what the Leafs need. A 4th liner that can't play.
The leafs really need the big sexy name because they need something to build around. Schenn is nice, but he's not Stevens, Neinds, Lindstrom, Coffey, Green, Chara, Orr. At best Schenn is Mark Howe. Which is still damn good but you need more then that.
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| Re: [Hockey] Official UFA trade thread said by pat_lc2000 :Colton Orr is just what the Leafs need. A 4th liner that can't play. Orr can play...he isn't there to give you 20 goals...he is there to help protect the other young players and keep people honest out there...last year, in many games, the Leafs got pushed around too much...you don't want Schenn and White fighting...that isn't going to "scare" anyone...you need to have someone the other team will have to answer to, should things go that way.
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| said by pat_lc2000 :Colton Orr is just what the Leafs need. A 4th liner that can't play. The leafs really need the big sexy name because they need something to build around. Schenn is nice, but he's not Stevens, Neinds, Lindstrom, Coffey, Green, Chara, Orr. At best Schenn is Mark Howe. Which is still damn good but you need more then that. At this point Kabarle will not resign in Toronto. So Burke has to do something. Schenn was a rookie, who knows his potential at this point. As for Kaberle not resign, he still has 2 years left on his contract. He's going to be gone by the end of summer. | |
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London, ON | there are a few big names out there, but i don't think any of them are needed in TO. | |
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dirtyjeffer
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1 edit | the Hossa to Chicago is apparently a done deal...good work with the Hawks...Toews, Kane and Hossa...OUCH! | |
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| the Hossa to Chicago deal is done...a cap hit of $5 million per year...possibly a 12 year deal...details still coming in.
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dirtyjeffer
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shaner
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Calgary, AB | Re: [Hockey] Official UFA trade thread Good golly. Pretty busy stuff.
Ohlund to Tampa Bay for 7 years/$26.26 Million | |
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Ty Conklin signs with St. Louis. | |
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Wouldn't you rather sign Chris Neil or Todd Fedork for more money but a lot better production. | |
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| Re: [Hockey] Official UFA trade thread said by pat_lc2000 :Colton Orr had a career high 5 points last year. He can't play. Wouldn't you rather sign Chris Neil or Todd Fedork for more money but a lot better production. big deal, Orr isn't there to score...and I would love to have Chris Neil (i have said that earlier this year when Ottawa couldn't re-sign him)...perhaps Burke is looking at him, he is Burke's type of player...that said, i don't know what kind of numbers he is looking for, or if he is worth it.
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2 edits | Re: [Hockey] Official UFA trade thread Chris Neil isn't all he's cracked up to be. The problem since Belak was traded away was the Leafs had "tough guys" who would always get their asses handed to them. Neil is one of those guys too. Much better to have a true heavyweight. We have enough guys who think they can fight.
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shaner
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Calgary, AB | Re: [Hockey] Official UFA trade thread Rumour has it the Leafs have traded Kubina to Atlanta for Colby Armstrong.
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| Re: [Hockey] Official UFA trade thread said by shaner :Rumour has it the Leafs have traded Kubina to Atlanta for Colby Armstrong. Now that's some sandpaper. i always liked watching Armstrong lay people out in Pittsburgh (unless it was a leaf)...he and Brooks Orpick have to be among the leagues most under-rated hitters.
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| details are coming in about Hossa deal...$59.3 million over the first 8 years with the remaining $3.5 million over the last four.
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| Re: [Hockey] Official UFA trade thread Say what you want, but I think it's a great deal. It protects Schenn from getting injured in a fight, and allows the smaller forwards a little more freedom. I'm just saying the Habs won't be running Leafs D-men into the end boards from the faceoff dot anymore. | |
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