[Hockey] Official UFA trade thread Page 22

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pat_lc2000 join:2006-02-04 Ottawa, ON	reply to dirtyjeffer Re: [Hockey] Official UFA trade thread There are lots of upsides to this trade, but a whole hell of a lot of downsides. The upsides are easy, he's a 30 goal scorer, he's 21. the downsides: 1)Overpaid. Kessel will make more money this season then Corey Perry, Ryan Getzlaf, Simon Gagne, Mike Green, Jeff Carter, Martin Havlat, Mike Ribario, Alexander Semin. Which one of them wouldn't you rather have? 2)Leafs prospect pool. The leafs don't have any. Of there two best at after the lockout, they traded one away and ruined the other.
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The Flash You don't win friends with salad Premium join:2002-10-17 Toronto, ON ·TekSavvy Solutions.. ·Execulink	reply to Mauricio said by Mauricio : Kessel is out until November. He seems to be an injury-prone type of player. No to mention his health issues a few years back. I think the Leafs overpaid for his services. Only time will tell though. Injury prone? The guy had Cancer and Mononucleosis.
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The Flash You don't win friends with salad Premium join:2002-10-17 Toronto, ON ·TekSavvy Solutions.. ·Execulink	reply to pat_lc2000 said by pat_lc2000 : There are lots of upsides to this trade, but a whole hell of a lot of downsides. The upsides are easy, he's a 30 goal scorer, he's 21. the downsides: 1)Overpaid. Kessel will make more money this season then Corey Perry, Ryan Getzlaf, Simon Gagne, Mike Green, Jeff Carter, Martin Havlat, Mike Ribario, Alexander Semin. Which one of them wouldn't you rather have? 2)Leafs prospect pool. The leafs don't have any. Of there two best at after the lockout, they traded one away and ruined the other. The players you listed are all older than Kessel, he pretty much hit the 40 goal mark at 21 years of age while battling through Mono. Had he played all 82 games, he could easily hit 40 maybe even close to 50 goals. He only averaged 16 mins a game. He hasn't even peaked yet. Saying the Leafs don't have any prospects is a very ignorant statement. Ever heard of Kadri? Bozak? Stalberg? Gustavsson?
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dirtyjeffer Oh Yeah Premium join:2002-02-21 London, ON	don't mind Pat...he's just bitter that his Sens haven't been winning like the Leafs have, despite all their "talent".
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pat_lc2000 join:2006-02-04 Ottawa, ON	reply to The Flash said by The Flash : said by pat_lc2000 : There are lots of upsides to this trade, but a whole hell of a lot of downsides. The upsides are easy, he's a 30 goal scorer, he's 21. the downsides: 1)Overpaid. Kessel will make more money this season then Corey Perry, Ryan Getzlaf, Simon Gagne, Mike Green, Jeff Carter, Martin Havlat, Mike Ribario, Alexander Semin. Which one of them wouldn't you rather have? 2)Leafs prospect pool. The leafs don't have any. Of there two best at after the lockout, they traded one away and ruined the other. The players you listed are all older than Kessel, he pretty much hit the 40 goal mark at 21 years of age while battling through Mono. Had he played all 82 games, he could easily hit 40 maybe even close to 50 goals. He only averaged 16 mins a game. He hasn't even peaked yet. Saying the Leafs don't have any prospects is a very ignorant statement. Ever heard of Kadri? Bozak? Stalberg? Gustavsson? They are all also better hockey players and paid less. Which is the point. That's all of 4 prospects, who may or may not pan out. Three of whom where not drafted....but clearly the leafs have prospects.
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Mauricio aka CigaR Premium join:2008-12-06	reply to The Flash said by The Flash : said by Mauricio : Kessel is out until November. He seems to be an injury-prone type of player. No to mention his health issues a few years back. I think the Leafs overpaid for his services. Only time will tell though. Injury prone? The guy had Cancer and Mononucleosis. I said "seems" to be injury-prone. Given his past health issues, it is normal, in my opinion, to think that he is more at risk.
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Clipper join:2002-05-23 Stoney Creek, ON	reply to pat_lc2000 said by pat_lc2000 : That's all of 4 prospects, who may or may not pan out. Three of whom where not drafted....but clearly the leafs have prospects. Stefanovich, DiDomenico, Blacker, Reimer, Mitchell, D'Amigo, Hayes, Ryan, Gunnarsson, Champagne... Contrary to popular belief, the Leafs actually do have prospects.
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The Flash You don't win friends with salad Premium join:2002-10-17 Toronto, ON ·TekSavvy Solutions.. ·Execulink	reply to pat_lc2000 said by pat_lc2000 : said by The Flash : said by pat_lc2000 : There are lots of upsides to this trade, but a whole hell of a lot of downsides. The upsides are easy, he's a 30 goal scorer, he's 21. the downsides: 1)Overpaid. Kessel will make more money this season then Corey Perry, Ryan Getzlaf, Simon Gagne, Mike Green, Jeff Carter, Martin Havlat, Mike Ribario, Alexander Semin. Which one of them wouldn't you rather have? 2)Leafs prospect pool. The leafs don't have any. Of there two best at after the lockout, they traded one away and ruined the other. The players you listed are all older than Kessel, he pretty much hit the 40 goal mark at 21 years of age while battling through Mono. Had he played all 82 games, he could easily hit 40 maybe even close to 50 goals. He only averaged 16 mins a game. He hasn't even peaked yet. Saying the Leafs don't have any prospects is a very ignorant statement. Ever heard of Kadri? Bozak? Stalberg? Gustavsson? They are all also better hockey players and paid less. Which is the point. That's all of 4 prospects, who may or may not pan out. Three of whom where not drafted....but clearly the leafs have prospects. Some are only paid a little bit more, how can you say Mike Green is a better hockey player, they don't have play the same position. Prospects don't necessarily have to be drafted. I don't know where you got that from.
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tyler00 Premium join:2001-06-27 Pickering, ON	reply to dirtyjeffer Anyone want to sign Forsberg? »sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news?slug=a···ype=lgns
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dirtyjeffer Oh Yeah Premium join:2002-02-21 London, ON	the Canucks like their beat up old Swedes.
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HiVolt 30 Premium join:2000-12-28 Toronto, ON clubs:	Speaking of old Swedes, has his highness #13 made the all important decision on whether he WANTS to play this year? Or due to his suckiness last year with the Canucks nobody gives a crap? -- GO LEAFS GO!
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ZZZZZZZ Premium join:2001-05-27 PARADISE	nobody gives a crap?
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HiVolt 30 Premium join:2000-12-28 Toronto, ON clubs:	What I'd find hilarious if he held a press conference announcing to the world that indeed he DOES want to play, and then nobody even gave him an offer, lol... -- GO LEAFS GO!
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dirtyjeffer Oh Yeah Premium join:2002-02-21 London, ON ·Rogers Hi-Speed	reply to dirtyjeffer Schremp is claimed off waivers by the Islanders (from the Oilers). i never understood the Schremp story...he was AWESOME with the Knights, was a first round pick (25th overall)...he was a sniper, who had wicked hands and quick skating...not a big guy, so probably lacked in the physical department, but man, he could skate and shoot the puck like so few could...i wonder if he just got depressed and demotivated in Edmonton...unfortunately, the Islanders aren't much better, but perhaps playing with Tavares will help inject new life...i always liked Schremp and he was great in London when he was a Knight. »www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/story/2···?ref=rss -- Today's motto: Dearly beloved, We are gathered here today to bid farewell to personal responsibility and accountability.
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Kardinal Canadair CT-114 Tutor Premium join:2001-02-04 N of 49th clubs:	Pierre McGuire was commenting on Schremp the other day during his daily slot on Team1200 (just after 8am, in case you want to tune in via their website) and the problem is his skating: he was good enough at the junior level to seem fast but at the NHL level he's lacking speed and finesse and he hasn't improved in several years. He's got good hands but he's not a Ryan Shannon in the speed department nor is he big so he just hasn't worked out so far. Hopefully a new start with NYI will motivate him to work on his skating and find a spot on a team that needs his other abilities. -- The thoughts expressed in the above post are those of the poster, and can only be attributed to his state of mind at the time of posting. Join Team Helix
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dirtyjeffer Oh Yeah Premium join:2002-02-21 London, ON ·Rogers Hi-Speed	yea, i haven't really seen him play in years, so i am not sure what is going on, but from how he was, there is certainly a high amount of skill going to waste...perhaps that is a motivation thing (i don't know), but someone needs to get him back in the game...i watched him play for a couple of years (and even got my photo with him (although i can't seem to find it, but i did post it in here), and he is a really good player. -- Today's motto: Dearly beloved, We are gathered here today to bid farewell to personal responsibility and accountability.
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Kardinal Canadair CT-114 Tutor Premium join:2001-02-04 N of 49th clubs:	said by dirtyjeffer : yea, i haven't really seen him play in years, so i am not sure what is going on, but from how he was, there is certainly a high amount of skill going to waste...perhaps that is a motivation thing (i don't know), but someone needs to get him back in the game...i watched him play for a couple of years (and even got my photo with him (although i can't seem to find it, but i did post it in here), and he is a really good player. I remember him playing in the OHL too, especially during the Knights-67s league championship series the in 2005. He played really well then and I'd hope he could play that well in the NHL but it hasn't turned out that way for some reason. Perhaps a change of scenery will do him some good and the Islanders could use some still-young-with-potential talent for their team so this could be the opportunity he needs. -- The thoughts expressed in the above post are those of the poster, and can only be attributed to his state of mind at the time of posting. Join Team Helix
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dirtyjeffer Oh Yeah Premium join:2002-02-21 London, ON	yea, i wish him the best too. he definitely has the potential: »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Schremp
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alamarco o.O join:2003-06-18 Windsor, ON clubs:	Wow. Moore to Florida. Seems like the Panthers are the Leafs retirement homes.
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tyler00 Premium join:2001-06-27 Pickering, ON	reply to tyler00 Habs get some D help after losing their best offensive and defensive defenseman by signing Marc-Andre Bergeron to a 1 year deal.
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