Gruesome
join:2007-10-18
Milton, ON | reply to JesusBeamz
Re: Throttling
It might be an idea to run a trace route client and see where exactly you are losing packets or packets are being delayed |
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mreid
join:2007-02-07
Kingston, ON
| reply to JesusBeamz
well actuality Cogeco only throttles 24/7!!!!
»www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2009···ore.html |
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Bitwise
@cgocable.net
| reply to ohyestheydo
Exseven was part of that thread and many others on the same topic. He and his fellow employees have been having fun at this forums expense for YEARS. For some reason, the Cogeco VIP crew seems to think it's funny to play word games with customers.
As per Krispy, they do not throttle. Throttle, in that last statement, defined as being intentional RST packets forged and other session breaking activities.
Cogeco "rate shapes" all P2P applications their DPI hardware thinks it is capable of identifying...but they don't call it throttling. Historically, incompetent administrators have snared SSH, VPN, and other encrypted/partially encrypted packets with poorly constructed filters.
The WOW protocol partially encrypts packets. |
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Wraith600
join:2006-12-08
St Catharines, ON
| reply to JesusBeamz
Here is the best fix you can do, I have run into this issue when I moved to a LA data based server.
»www.sk-gaming.com/content/15500-···g_by_150
This does work. Proven many times over by many people.
From here to that data center makes is barely unplayable as I found in the sense of latency. I was cheesed the that guild decided to move and they didn't take into account this issue when moving to something more populated when I played.
Anyways, hope that helps, if it's Vista I couldn't offer you any other comments as I only saw this for XP. |
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drewis
Premium
join:2006-09-04
Hamilton, ON
 ·Cogeco Cable
 ·TekSavvy Solutions..
| reply to JesusBeamz
They dont throttle WoW as far as I know.
But who knows? Are WoW players providing a 'strain' on their infrastructure? hahaha
and YES cogeco throttles torrents guaranteed.
tested with gentoo linux 3000+ seeders, goes 150 KB/s
on my dsl goes 680KB/s.
..as with many other torrents.. |
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Shamans
join:2007-09-22
·Cogeco Cable
| reply to JesusBeamz
said by JesusBeamz  :You may think its funny but it really only happens when we both are playing... and it's rather unplayable. Why would our connection not be able to handle 2 wow connections at 7 but be able to at 10? Doesn't make any sense You're right, it doesn't make sense.............unless it's packet loss induced by that time period.
WoW isn't latency-sensitive or bandwidth-intensive.
It doesn't make any sense for an ISP to throttle WoW users, they're like the perfect customers. The uprising you'd get from that is probably bigger than the bandwidth cap policies lol. |
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Fireblade
join:2008-08-27
St Catharines, ON
·Cogeco Cable
 ·Vonage
| reply to JesusBeamz
There's no difference between 60-250ms on a WoW server, I've been playing long enough to verify that. Hitting Deadly Gladiator last season with 3's on a BG9 server with 220ms, I promise you, no difference. The only thing I've noticed is that prime-time is a little worse on western servers, between 7pm-9pm but if your "good" friends are doing arenas or PvE during that time they're pretty stupid and I wouldn't consider them "good".
Sure, western servers obviously spike a little more but it's so minuscule and worth the small irritation to play in the best and most difficult battlegroup.
From experience, I think the OP is playing during prime-time while WG is going on - almost unplayable. That combination would put immense load on the server and I wouldn't expect it to recover till about 9:30 to 10:00 when he says it subdues.
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I love fish sticks. I love putting fish sticks in my mouth. |
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urbanriot
join:2004-10-18
St Catharines, ON
·Cogeco Cable
1 edit | reply to Fireblade
Your ping is 150-220ms and you say you don't have any problems? I don't know what your play style is, but most people I know that are 'good at WoW' (haha) bitch about lag on western servers.
He could have his wife try a Boston server, which will definitely offer a considerably lower latency regardless of your experiences, without you freaking out over the suggestion. |
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Fireblade
join:2008-08-27
St Catharines, ON
·Cogeco Cable
·Vonage
1 edit | reply to JesusBeamz
Where are you playing from, New Brunswick?
No one on a broadband connection should have problems playing on a western server, my server is located in LA, it's also a "FULL" server - I don't have problems, my ping is around 150-220ms and the only time I experience unplayable lag is when WG is running.
I've played on many western, central and eastern servers - your rates don't really effect gameplay and on every server, the game becomes almost unplayable when WG is active.
When I visit my family, they have Cogeco lite and I'm still able to get a similar ping without high latency. Though I'm not surprised if it isn't working with Bells service.
EDIT: I also know 5 people from St. Catharines that play on my server, 7 from Hamilton, 3 from Toronto, 5 from Brampton, 4 from Sudbury and 10 more in various locations in Ontario. All play in our clan without latency issues, on a western massive pop server located in LA.
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I love fish sticks. I love putting fish sticks in my mouth. |
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sardauk
@bell.ca | reply to Fireblade
I'm sorry but you have no idea what you're talking about. Dallas and LA servers are unplayable from our location. |
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Fireblade
join:2008-08-27
St Catharines, ON
·Cogeco Cable
·Vonage
| reply to JesusBeamz
Server is irrelevant, even playing on a western server wouldn't give him the issues he described - even on prime-time.
The only thing I can think of that would cause his issues is Wintergrasp, doesn't matter what kind of computer you have nor how fast your connection is, while WG is being fought for, everyone lags, bigtime. WG happens every 2-3 hours in Northrend.
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I love fish sticks. I love putting fish sticks in my mouth. |
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urbanriot
join:2004-10-18
St Catharines, ON
1 edit | reply to JesusBeamz
Server name please. It's relevant to trying to help you. |
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JesusBeamz
Lord of the Jesus Beamz
join:2009-05-14
Ontario
·Cogeco Cable
| reply to JesusBeamz
»Canadian ISPs (Almost) Come Clean On Throttling
-_-
Was simply asking if it has gotten worse, how is this a troll thread? I post here regularly.
Server is EST |
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JesusBeamz
Lord of the Jesus Beamz
join:2009-05-14
Ontario | reply to urbanriot
Re: Throttling
....... Leave us alone. |
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urbanriot
join:2004-10-18
St Catharines, ON | reply to JesusBeamz
HELLOOOOOOOOO, what server is she on? |
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ohyestheydo
@akn.ca
| reply to exseven
said by exseven :cogeco doesnt throttle Actually they do. It was found in a document that was submitted to the CRTC. If you search you'll find a thread.
It's just not an all or nothing throttle like Bell, seems they just implement it in areas as needed. |
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Celery
join:2004-01-19
St Catharines, ON | reply to JesusBeamz
Probably because the rest of the world is playing WOW during peak hours at 7pm??
/dies |
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JesusBeamz
Lord of the Jesus Beamz
join:2009-05-14
Ontario | reply to urbanriot
You may think its funny but it really only happens when we both are playing... and it's rather unplayable.
Why would our connection not be able to handle 2 wow connections at 7 but be able to at 10?
Doesn't make any sense |
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CaptainPicard
@cgocable.net | reply to JesusBeamz
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/facepalm.
Yes, lets all throttle video games. Those pesky intensive use things. Yea... |
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