Throttling in Cogeco http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r22634258 en Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:57:10 EDT Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:57:10 EDT Re: Throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22771686 Gruesome : It might be an idea to run a trace route client and see where exactly you are losing packets or packets are being delayed]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22771686 Mon, 27 Jul 2009 10:00:47 EDT Re: Throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22765738 mreid : well actuality Cogeco only throttles 24/7!!!!

»www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2009···ore.html]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22765738 Sat, 25 Jul 2009 17:59:13 EDT Re: Throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22641275 anon : Exseven was part of that thread and many others on the same topic. He and his fellow employees have been having fun at this forums expense for YEARS. For some reason, the Cogeco VIP crew seems to think it's funny to play word games with customers.

As per Krispy, they do not throttle. Throttle, in that last statement, defined as being intentional RST packets forged and other session breaking activities.

Cogeco "rate shapes" all P2P applications their DPI hardware thinks it is capable of identifying...but they don't call it throttling. Historically, incompetent administrators have snared SSH, VPN, and other encrypted/partially encrypted packets with poorly constructed filters.

The WOW protocol partially encrypts packets.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22641275 Wed, 01 Jul 2009 18:11:51 EDT Re: Throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22640229 Wraith600 : Here is the best fix you can do, I have run into this issue when I moved to a LA data based server.

»www.sk-gaming.com/content/15500-···g_by_150

This does work. Proven many times over by many people.
From here to that data center makes is barely unplayable as I found in the sense of latency. I was cheesed the that guild decided to move and they didn't take into account this issue when moving to something more populated when I played.

Anyways, hope that helps, if it's Vista I couldn't offer you any other comments as I only saw this for XP.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22640229 Wed, 01 Jul 2009 14:50:28 EDT Re: Throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22637568 drewis : They dont throttle WoW as far as I know.

But who knows? Are WoW players providing a 'strain' on their infrastructure? hahaha

and YES cogeco throttles torrents guaranteed.

tested with gentoo linux 3000+ seeders, goes 150 KB/s

on my dsl goes 680KB/s.

..as with many other torrents..]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22637568 Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:36:14 EDT Re: Throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22636375 Shamans :
said by JesusBeamz See Profile :

You may think its funny but it really only happens when we both are playing... and it's rather unplayable.

Why would our connection not be able to handle 2 wow connections at 7 but be able to at 10?

Doesn't make any sense
You're right, it doesn't make sense.............unless it's packet loss induced by that time period.

WoW isn't latency-sensitive or bandwidth-intensive.

It doesn't make any sense for an ISP to throttle WoW users, they're like the perfect customers. The uprising you'd get from that is probably bigger than the bandwidth cap policies lol.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22636375 Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:55:20 EDT Re: Throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22635857 Fireblade : There's no difference between 60-250ms on a WoW server, I've been playing long enough to verify that. Hitting Deadly Gladiator last season with 3's on a BG9 server with 220ms, I promise you, no difference. The only thing I've noticed is that prime-time is a little worse on western servers, between 7pm-9pm but if your "good" friends are doing arenas or PvE during that time they're pretty stupid and I wouldn't consider them "good".

Sure, western servers obviously spike a little more but it's so minuscule and worth the small irritation to play in the best and most difficult battlegroup.

From experience, I think the OP is playing during prime-time while WG is going on - almost unplayable. That combination would put immense load on the server and I wouldn't expect it to recover till about 9:30 to 10:00 when he says it subdues.
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He could have his wife try a Boston server, which will definitely offer a considerably lower latency regardless of your experiences, without you freaking out over the suggestion. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22635783 Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:47:50 EDT Re: Throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22635663 Fireblade : Where are you playing from, New Brunswick?

No one on a broadband connection should have problems playing on a western server, my server is located in LA, it's also a "FULL" server - I don't have problems, my ping is around 150-220ms and the only time I experience unplayable lag is when WG is running.

I've played on many western, central and eastern servers - your rates don't really effect gameplay and on every server, the game becomes almost unplayable when WG is active.

When I visit my family, they have Cogeco lite and I'm still able to get a similar ping without high latency. Though I'm not surprised if it isn't working with Bells service.

EDIT: I also know 5 people from St. Catharines that play on my server, 7 from Hamilton, 3 from Toronto, 5 from Brampton, 4 from Sudbury and 10 more in various locations in Ontario. All play in our clan without latency issues, on a western massive pop server located in LA.
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The only thing I can think of that would cause his issues is Wintergrasp, doesn't matter what kind of computer you have nor how fast your connection is, while WG is being fought for, everyone lags, bigtime. WG happens every 2-3 hours in Northrend.
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-_-

Was simply asking if it has gotten worse, how is this a troll thread? I post here regularly.

Server is EST]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22634589 Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:15:56 EDT Re: Throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22634544 JesusBeamz : ....... Leave us alone.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22634544 Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:10:31 EDT Re: Throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22634491 urbanriot : HELLOOOOOOOOO, what server is she on?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22634491 Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:02:17 EDT Re: Throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22634457 anon :
said by exseven See Profile :

cogeco doesnt throttle
Actually they do. It was found in a document that was submitted to the CRTC. If you search you'll find a thread.

It's just not an all or nothing throttle like Bell, seems they just implement it in areas as needed.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22634457 Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:59:32 EDT Re: Throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22634435 Celery : Probably because the rest of the world is playing WOW during peak hours at 7pm??

/dies]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22634435 Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:52:16 EDT Re: Throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22634423 JesusBeamz : You may think its funny but it really only happens when we both are playing... and it's rather unplayable.

Why would our connection not be able to handle 2 wow connections at 7 but be able to at 10?

Doesn't make any sense]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22634423 Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:49:11 EDT Re: Throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22634413 anon : ...
/facepalm.

Yes, lets all throttle video games. Those pesky intensive use things. Yea...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22634413 Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:48:57 EDT Re: Throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22634371 urbanriot : Lol @ throttling Warcraft.

What server is she on?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22634371 Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:42:36 EDT Re: Throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22634346 exseven : cogeco doesnt throttle]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22634346 Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:37:45 EDT Throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22634258 JesusBeamz : So is cogeco throttling really bad or what nowadays? When trying to play wow w/ my wife at like 7pm it was locking up every 2 seconds, barely playable and extrememly iritating. Fast forward to 9:30pm/10pm or so, it's fine.. no hiccups or anything.

I'm on standard, use some what close to within my bandwidth cap each month but yet it's terrible during the day and fine during the night? Makes no sense....]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22634258 Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:26:17 EDT