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said by rockotman  :And what makes you think that he did lie. Sure, he is unfaithful. If I was his father-in-law, I would kick his ass. But he lied in an attempt to save his marriage; it is the first response most men would have when faced with getting busted cheating. As far as lying to his wife inferring that he lying about more, your logic is faulted. Statement A being a lie does not automatically make statement B a lie. Have you ever told a lie? If the answer is no, then you are better than everyone else in this world. If you ever did tell a lie, does that make everything else that you have ever told anyone a lie? If you lied once, should I automatically assume that every thing else you ever said is a lie? As far as paying off as opposed to dragging it out, people and corporations do it all the time. It does not imply guilt. It implies good business sense. It is a business decision, as the cost of fighting it are not worth the cost of settling. If she demands $1M, and will settle for $200K, while the cost of fighting the $1M lawsuit has a 50% chance of exceeding $400K in legal fees and time lost, then paying the $200K makes business sense. Everyone fibs you missed the over all point.
He had already lied on the subject at hand. In the beginng he denied having sex with her at all, and im sure ommited telling his wife about it at all. So he then tells the "truth" that he had sex with this chick. Meanwhile he COULD still be lying and really COULD HAVE raped her. YOU have no idea.
Sorry but one thing I would deffend to the end, is my reputation, with his kind of money, I would have took her ass to court 100 times if needed if I really didn't do it. So IMO its LIKELY he may have raped her or at least done something questionable. IF I really did do something "wrong" I would have paid her to keep it quiet. Which is also what MANY businesses/people do that have money and want to keep the truth out of court. You understand what your saying goes both ways.
Which do you think is more common?
1. Person/Business is really innocent and just doesn't want to goto court to "save" money.
2. Person/Business is really guilty to some degree or another, but they can keep it out of court for x money which would be less of a hit to their "career/business" over being found guilty or the truth coming out.
I bet its #2 to be more likely. Kobe Bryant has tons of money, I doubt he was looking to save money. He was looking to save the truth coming out.
Sure people and companies pay people off all the time, who are you to decide what implies guilt? It clearly doesn't imply they are innocent either. Most people on this planet would probably say that it does imply some sort of guilt, or a situation that would expose some other truth that person/company does not want public. Its funny you over look that.
Next you will tell us OJ is innocent. LOL.
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| said by Chillin :Sorry but one thing I would deffend to the end, is my reputation, with his kind of money, I would have took her ass to court 100 times if needed if I really didn't do it. People with fame, power, and money see it differently than most of us regular people. They see things in terms of inconveniences, not absolutes. The one guy I can think of who decided to do what you're saying is Roger Clemens, and in doing so (suing McNamee to bolster his reputation) he did much more harm to himself than good.
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said by Chillin :Which do you think is more common? 1. Person/Business is really innocent and just doesn't want to goto court to "save" money. 2. Person/Business is really guilty to some degree or another, but they can keep it out of court for x money which would be less of a hit to their "career/business" over being found guilty or the truth coming out. I bet its #2 to be more likely. Kobe Bryant has tons of money, I doubt he was looking to save money. He was looking to save the truth coming out. Well therein lies the difference in our opinions. I bet it is #1. So be it. We disagree.
said by Chillin : Sure people and companies pay people off all the time, who are you to decide what implies guilt? It clearly doesn't imply they are innocent either. Most people on this planet would probably say that it does imply some sort of guilt, or a situation that would expose some other truth that person/company does not want public. Its funny you over look that. It clearly does not imply guilt, either. And I beg to differ. I don't know what most people on this planet would say, and I don't think that you do either. And I don't see how my ignoring what you think other people might think has any bearing on the subject. If I make the opposite assertion, then accuse you of ignoring that, does that prove my point? Of course not. So once again, your logic is flawed. Your thoughts do not prove guilt or innocence. All that matters are the facts, and they will never be truly known.
said by Chillin :Next you will tell us OJ is innocent. LOL. Again, a strawman argument. What does the OJ murder trial have to do with any of this? Absolutely nothing. His being found innocent in a criminal trial, but accountable in a civil trial is not even remotely similar in nature. If you commit a crime but get away with it, does that mean that if I am suspected of commiting a crime, I am automatically guilty? Wow. Talk about pretzel logic.
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said by Chillin :Next you will tell us OJ is innocent. LOL. Catch -22
Not saying OJ is guilty or not, but by the eyes of the courts, he is innocent, yet alot still says he is guilty. So him going to court and fighting the charges to protect his reputation didn't do him any good. I think in some cases, it might be best to payoff and others not. |
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said by rockotman :said by Chillin :Which do you think is more common? 1. Person/Business is really innocent and just doesn't want to goto court to "save" money. 2. Person/Business is really guilty to some degree or another, but they can keep it out of court for x money which would be less of a hit to their "career/business" over being found guilty or the truth coming out. I bet its #2 to be more likely. Kobe Bryant has tons of money, I doubt he was looking to save money. He was looking to save the truth coming out. Well therein lies the difference in our opinions. I bet it is #1. So be it. We disagree. said by Chillin : Sure people and companies pay people off all the time, who are you to decide what implies guilt? It clearly doesn't imply they are innocent either. Most people on this planet would probably say that it does imply some sort of guilt, or a situation that would expose some other truth that person/company does not want public. Its funny you over look that. It clearly does not imply guilt, either. And I beg to differ. I don't know what most people on this planet would say, and I don't think that you do either. And I don't see how my ignoring what you think other people might think has any bearing on the subject. If I make the opposite assertion, then accuse you of ignoring that, does that prove my point? Of course not. So once again, your logic is flawed. Your thoughts do not prove guilt or innocence. All that matters are the facts, and they will never be truly known. said by Chillin :Next you will tell us OJ is innocent. LOL. Again, a strawman argument. What does the OJ murder trial have to do with any of this? Absolutely nothing. His being found innocent in a criminal trial, but accountable in a civil trial is not even remotely similar in nature. If you commit a crime but get away with it, does that mean that if I am suspected of commiting a crime, I am automatically guilty? Wow. Talk about pretzel logic. For me it does imply some guilt. Sorry you wont convince me different. I would fight it to the end no matter the cost if I didn't do what I was being accused of. I have had this talk with many people about the Kobe thing. Never had someone say they think he was not guilty of it. So be it as it may that he is. Paying someone off for me makes it far less likely that he is innocent.
Your right on one thing, we will never know the complete facts, I agree with that.
The OJ thing was a joke, relax.
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said by Moorecards :said by Chillin :Next you will tell us OJ is innocent. LOL. Catch -22 Not saying OJ is guilty or not, but by the eyes of the courts, he is innocent, yet alot still says he is guilty. So him going to court and fighting the charges to protect his reputation didn't do him any good. I think in some cases, it might be best to payoff and others not. Your right he is innocent by the eyes of the court. However that was due to bad police work. His blood was later found on Browns body even. The thing I was pointing out really is that with Kobes money he could probably have got off anyway even if he did do it.
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said by fatness :said by Chillin :Sorry but one thing I would deffend to the end, is my reputation, with his kind of money, I would have took her ass to court 100 times if needed if I really didn't do it. People with fame, power, and money see it differently than most of us regular people. They see things in terms of inconveniences, not absolutes. The one guy I can think of who decided to do what you're saying is Roger Clemens, and in doing so (suing McNamee to bolster his reputation) he did much more harm to himself than good. But thats because Roger did it right? My point is that if Kobe was really innocent and had nothing to hide in the situation he would have had no hit to his rep. In fact he may have earned some respect for standing up for something he didn't do.
So in my eyes, my opinion stands. When you pay off someone, you show weakness and that is often a sign of some level of guilt. So I will lean that way since he gave no other reason to lean at being innocent.
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| Is this guy stupid? OJ went to court and was found innocent and most people still think he is guilty of the crime... whats to say Kobe would be any different? going to court would have been worse because he would be in the news NONSTOP and having to mess with his NBA career which is still on the rise... If Kobe went to court in my opinion it would be because he was guilty and try to pull an OJ to protect his "rep"
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said by Chillin :So in my eyes, my opinion stands. Yes, I noticed.
No one else seems to have changed theirs either.
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said by Eagles LoveR :Is this guy stupid? OJ went to court and was found innocent and most people still think he is guilty of the crime... whats to say Kobe would be any different? going to court would have been worse because he would be in the news NONSTOP and having to mess with his NBA career which is still on the rise... If Kobe went to court in my opinion it would be because he was guilty and try to pull an OJ to protect his "rep" Looks like Kobe did something to him real bad to hate Kobe this much. I am not sure what part of "paying off is better business wise" rather than fighting it out in court.
Again, people with money have advisers and for sure they weigh everything before deciding not to fight it in court.
Even the OJ example won't let him change his mind. So be it...let's move on. |
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| said by zxt :said by Eagles LoveR :Is this guy stupid? OJ went to court and was found innocent and most people still think he is guilty of the crime... whats to say Kobe would be any different? going to court would have been worse because he would be in the news NONSTOP and having to mess with his NBA career which is still on the rise... If Kobe went to court in my opinion it would be because he was guilty and try to pull an OJ to protect his "rep" Looks like Kobe did something to him real bad to hate Kobe this much. I am not sure what part of "paying off is better business wise" rather than fighting it out in court. Again, people with money have advisers and for sure they weigh everything before deciding not to fight it in court. Even the OJ example won't let him change his mind. So be it...let's move on. Seems like it never crossed your mind he may have done it and that could be why he wanted it out of court. If I was guilty and was offered a way to pay my way out of it, im sure I would. Same as anyone else.
You assume the only reason he didn't go was because he didn't want it to drag out and cost "more". You should accept he may in fact have done it. Just like I accept he may not have. But when faced with the choice he decided to pay up, which im sorry does in no way point at being innocent.
Think about how stupid it sounds the way some are justifying it here.
Kobe didn't rape her, so he paid her to keep it out of court since she was lying. Basically because he is so tight on money hes trying to save it... Lets not forget the context that he is rich off his ass and even if it ended up costing him millions it wouldn't change much for him.
Zxt your right, nothing can change my opinion on it short of the girl coming out and saying she was lying about it all. Kobe did nothing to point to him being innocent.
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said by fatness :said by Chillin :So in my eyes, my opinion stands. Yes, I noticed. No one else seems to have changed theirs either. Shocking yes, but they are going on and on about it and I am replying. FYI thats how forums work.
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| said by Chillin :said by fatness :said by Chillin :So in my eyes, my opinion stands. Yes, I noticed. No one else seems to have changed theirs either. Shocking yes, but they are going on and on about it and I am replying. FYI thats how forums work. Them's da rules, baby. If you don't like it, go on the intarwebs and complain!
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| said by fatness :In my eyes, my opinion stands. Yes, I noticed.
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