 B Premium,MVM join:2000-10-28
1 edit | reply to chachazz Re: [Free] VirtualBox 3.0.0 final - major update
said by chachazz :....the only professional-quality virtualization solution that is also Open Source Software. What a lie!
A "professional-quality virtualization solution" should include support for USB attached devices, don't you think? VirtualBox still doesn't (in its "Open Source Software" edition).
Corrections welcome, of course. I'd love to see VirtualBox live up to its promises.
Edit: Sorry if I'm harsh; I was really hoping they'd have changed this by now.
-- B -- In a realm outside causality and function |
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  Link Logger Premium,MVM join:2001-03-29 Calgary, AB
·Shaw
| Well actually virtualizing USB devices isn't easy nor universal really, as when I have to do it I break out VMWare or Virtual PC within Windows 7. I am curious as to what virtual tool you use that supports virtual USB devices?
I like checking out different virtual tools (Virtual PC, VM WorkStation, VB, etc), and I was going to update my VB install, but after reading this thread I think I'll hold off a bit, thanks.
I love virtual systems as its like having disposable computers, so great for so many things like testing etc. I know that sometimes virtual software can't replace the real thing and I have a stack of systems in my office ready for such occasions, but I'll always try a virtual system first and see if I can save myself the 'real' hassle.
Blake -- Vendor: Author of Link Logger which is a traffic analysis and firewall logging tool |
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  GILXA1226 Premium,MVM join:2000-12-29 London, OH clubs:
| said by Link Logger :Well actually virtualizing USB devices isn't easy nor universal really, as when I have to do it I break out VMWare or Virtual PC within Windows 7. I am curious as to what virtual tool you use that supports virtual USB devices? I like checking out different virtual tools (Virtual PC, VM WorkStation, VB, etc), and I was going to update my VB install, but after reading this thread I think I'll hold off a bit, thanks. I love virtual systems as its like having disposable computers, so great for so many things like testing etc. I know that sometimes virtual software can't replace the real thing and I have a stack of systems in my office ready for such occasions, but I'll always try a virtual system first and see if I can save myself the 'real' hassle. Blake I think B 's point was in order to get USB support in VB, you have to get the paid version. -- We don't give a d@mn for the whole state of Michigan... we're from OHIO! O!H! ... I!O! |
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 B Premium,MVM join:2000-10-28
| Yup; it sure seems a given that "professional-quality virtualization" should include elementary USB support, and yet VirtualBox includes it ONLY in its proprietary closed source offering, rendering its description ("the only professional-quality virtualization solution that is also Open Source Software") suspect.
In other words, VirtualBox can do it all right, but are only willing to do so in their freeware(non-OSS) / payware versions.
Personally I generally stick to VMWare but am very interested in Xen.
-- B
P.S. Sun can license or charge however they want, of course. My issue is with the hypocrisy and misdirection. I gather that most people end up using the freeware/non-OSS version out of necessity, rather than the "OSE". -- In a realm outside causality and function |
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  GILXA1226 Premium,MVM join:2000-12-29 London, OH clubs:
| said by B :P.S. Sun can license or charge however they want, of course. My issue is with the hypocrisy and misdirection. I gather that most people end up using the freeware/non-OSS version out of necessity, rather than the "OSE". IIRC, it was licensed like that before Sun bought them. I think some people hoped Sun would allow the USB in the OSE version, but that has yet to have happened. -- We don't give a d@mn for the whole state of Michigan... we're from OHIO! O!H! ... I!O! |
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  Link Logger Premium,MVM join:2001-03-29 Calgary, AB
·Shaw
| reply to GILXA1226 said by GILXA1226 :I think B  's point was in order to get USB support in VB, you have to get the paid version. I see.
As far as VB charging for a 'Pro' product, if that is their 'marketing' plan then so be it. I purchased VM WorkStation, but I think I'll be waiting until the dust settles at least on VB before purchasing their 'pro' model if at all, given I'm fairly happy with my other virtual tools (free and otherwise).
Blake -- Vendor: Author of Link Logger which is a traffic analysis and firewall logging tool |
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  chachazz Premium join:2003-12-14
| Dedoimedo has a very good review(among many useful articles & demos) of new VBox 3.0 »www.dedoimedo.com/computers/virt···x-3.html -- Gladiator Security Forum: www.gladiator-antivirus.com/
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join:2002-01-23 New Zealand clubs:  | Unfortunately, that review doesn't state that the guest additions *must* be installed in Safe Mode for DX8/DX9 to work. DirectX 7 isn't supported. |
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