Topic 'Re: MCMVII: Liberty 20 Dollar Coin' in forum 'General Questions' - dslreports.com http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MCMVII-Liberty-20-Dollar-Coin-22641688 en Sat, 11 Feb 2012 05:11:37 EDT Sat, 11 Feb 2012 05:11:37 EDT Re: MCMVII: Liberty 20 Dollar Coin http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MCMVII-Liberty-20-Dollar-Coin-22945168 Great find dude!
The "In God We trust" motto don't happen on them until 1908
;)

I tried to take a picture of my price guide but it keeps coming out blurry!
If you doubt it go to a store (Walmart) that sell coin price guides and look it up.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MCMVII-Liberty-20-Dollar-Coin-22945168 Sat, 29 Aug 2009 21:06:21 EDT Re: MCMVII: Liberty 20 Dollar Coin http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MCMVII-Liberty-20-Dollar-Coin-22944514 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MCMVII-Liberty-20-Dollar-Coin-22944514 Sat, 29 Aug 2009 17:56:58 EDT Re: MCMVII: Liberty 20 Dollar Coin http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MCMVII-Liberty-20-Dollar-Coin-22651136 I'm in the process of gathering more info on the coin when it's available to me. You guys have provided me with a lot of information thus far. I will measure, weigh it and post back. I will get in contact with a coin dealer as well even though I'm now certain it's a fake! I'm delightfully surprised by all the interest in this thread however. :) Thanks for everyone's thoughts and comments on this.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MCMVII-Liberty-20-Dollar-Coin-22651136 Fri, 03 Jul 2009 18:26:00 EDT Re: MCMVII: Liberty 20 Dollar Coin http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MCMVII-Liberty-20-Dollar-Coin-22649828 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MCMVII-Liberty-20-Dollar-Coin-22649828 Fri, 03 Jul 2009 13:29:35 EDT Re: MCMVII: Liberty 20 Dollar Coin http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MCMVII-Liberty-20-Dollar-Coin-22648468 said by Hayward:

OOPS.... well them MIGHT be real... that was about when we quit the gold standard.....

Gave up silver in 1964, now we are just on smoke and mirros standad :(
its not real.

That coin is one of the most counterfeited coins in american history.

There are several compelling reasons that have been referenced in this thread, all accurate. It could not POSSIBLY be real. Its a fake... not even a good fake. Read the thread.

I'm not saying its worthless, but its not legal tender in the US
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OOPS.... well then MIGHT be real... that was about when we quit the gold standard.....

Gave up silver in 1964, now we are just on smoke and mirros standad :(
Lol, no its still fake.. and not just the coin.. !
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Gave up silver in 1964, now we are just on smoke and mirros standad :(
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MCMVII-Liberty-20-Dollar-Coin-22648463 Fri, 03 Jul 2009 03:36:42 EDT Re: MCMVII: Liberty 20 Dollar Coin http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MCMVII-Liberty-20-Dollar-Coin-22648459 said by Hayward:

MCMVII:= 1997....
M=1000
CM = 100 before 1000 (900)
VII = 7

1907
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M=1000
CM=900
XC= 10 before 100 (90)
VII=7
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The easiest way to determine if it's genuine or not is to weigh it. The real deal will weigh about 33.4 grams. A fake will be underweight.
Ever heard of lead??? Likely just plated, but might have high lead content to make it seem hefty. Forget the density dif between lead and gold but they are close.

No matter what though it is not a legitimate US Mint Coin , and very doubtful it is more than gold plated.
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Therefore it value is very variable.... beyond the actual metal value.
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Why don't you just try using it at a store?
Seems like he lives in Ontario, so they will spit in his face twice, once for the fake coin and second for trying use USD
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joetaxpayer; I wouldn't 100% guarantee that fakes are worthless.

For example the first Nigerian Scam letters a few years ago had badly printed fake stamps on them. They are now collectible if still on the original envelope.

Likewise I'm sure there are fake coins that are collectors items.

Quote from a fake coin web site "Ironically, there is actually a market for fake coins and some people will collect known fakes for the fun, prestige, and possible increase in valuation. These coins are famous fakes if you will."
Yes, some ancient Roman counterfeit coins are worthwhile collecting. »esty.ancients.info/imit/
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For example the first Nigerian Scam letters a few years ago had badly printed fake stamps on them. They are now collectible if still on the original envelope.

Likewise I'm sure there are fake coins that are collectors items.

Quote from a fake coin web site "Ironically, there is actually a market for fake coins and some people will collect known fakes for the fun, prestige, and possible increase in valuation. These coins are famous fakes if you will." ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MCMVII-Liberty-20-Dollar-Coin-22647994 Thu, 02 Jul 2009 23:41:37 EDT Re: MCMVII: Liberty 20 Dollar Coin http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MCMVII-Liberty-20-Dollar-Coin-22647940 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MCMVII-Liberty-20-Dollar-Coin-22647940 Thu, 02 Jul 2009 23:25:10 EDT Re: MCMVII: Liberty 20 Dollar Coin http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MCMVII-Liberty-20-Dollar-Coin-22647280
»boards.collectors-society.com/ub···1#UNREAD]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MCMVII-Liberty-20-Dollar-Coin-22647280 Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:50:28 EDT Re: MCMVII: Liberty 20 Dollar Coin http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MCMVII-Liberty-20-Dollar-Coin-22647171 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MCMVII-Liberty-20-Dollar-Coin-22647171 Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:28:27 EDT Re: MCMVII: Liberty 20 Dollar Coin http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MCMVII-Liberty-20-Dollar-Coin-22646545 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MCMVII-Liberty-20-Dollar-Coin-22646545 Thu, 02 Jul 2009 18:00:43 EDT Re: MCMVII: Liberty 20 Dollar Coin http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MCMVII-Liberty-20-Dollar-Coin-22646336 said by fcisler:

NEVER CLEAN A COIN!

Any numismatist will tell you such, and if you told them you cleaned it then it's now worth -0-.
A fake is worth zero regardless.

If it were real, it still wouldn't drop below gold value, cleaned or otherwise. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MCMVII-Liberty-20-Dollar-Coin-22646336 Thu, 02 Jul 2009 17:21:28 EDT Re: MCMVII: Liberty 20 Dollar Coin http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MCMVII-Liberty-20-Dollar-Coin-22646310
I have seen many coins in my day, you can just look at it and instantly know its not gold and its fake. And if it was cleaned its worthless.
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MCMVII = 1907

»www.coinfacts.com/double_eagles/···dens.htm
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»www.coinfacts.com/double_eagles/···dens.htm]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MCMVII-Liberty-20-Dollar-Coin-22646122 Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:38:19 EDT Re: MCMVII: Liberty 20 Dollar Coin http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MCMVII-Liberty-20-Dollar-Coin-22645575 If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? - Scott Adams]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MCMVII-Liberty-20-Dollar-Coin-22645575 Thu, 02 Jul 2009 14:47:43 EDT Re: MCMVII: Liberty 20 Dollar Coin http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MCMVII-Liberty-20-Dollar-Coin-22644756 www.coinfacts.com/double_eagles/···_rim.htm

»www.coinfacts.com/double_eagles/···lief.htm]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MCMVII-Liberty-20-Dollar-Coin-22644756 Thu, 02 Jul 2009 12:09:49 EDT Re: MCMVII: Liberty 20 Dollar Coin http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MCMVII-Liberty-20-Dollar-Coin-22644721 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MCMVII-Liberty-20-Dollar-Coin-22644721 Thu, 02 Jul 2009 12:03:51 EDT Re: MCMVII: Liberty 20 Dollar Coin http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MCMVII-Liberty-20-Dollar-Coin-22644560 said by NormanS:

said by Gbcue:

I think it's fake.
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It doesn't even say "IN GOD WE TRUST".
You posted that an hour and a quarter after another post explained why TR ordered these coins struck without that motto. While your other points (tarnish, seam) suggest a badly done counterfeit, the missing motto is not a part of that equation.
Somebody must have posted that while I was composing my post.
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I think it's fake.
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It doesn't even say "IN GOD WE TRUST".
You posted that an hour and a quarter after another post explained why TR ordered these coins struck without that motto. While your other points (tarnish, seam) suggest a badly done counterfeit, the missing motto is not a part of that equation.
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Gold pieces don't tarnish like silver.

It doesn't even say "IN GOD WE TRUST".

Seam? Even more proof.
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They actually were struck without the motto.

"In God We Trust" Coin Inscription
Although the newly minted $20 Saint-Gaudens coin was ready for circulation in 1907, an important inscription was omitted: "In God We Trust" (hence the name "No Motto"). Although our country's motto had appeared on almost every gold coin minted for the previous 100 years, President Roosevelt felt that the Lord's name should not appear on coins that could be used in transactions in brothels, saloons, and gambling halls, making them "close to sacrilege".

At first, the President's order was followed: none of the 1907 and only a small portion of the rare 1908 $20 St. Gaudens gold coins included the motto. Despite his motivations, the public - and Congress - construed the omission of this motto as an attack on religion. The resulting uprorar quickly led to a Congressional Act restoring the inscription of "In God We Trust" in mid-1908. The motto remained until the government stopped striking gold coins for circulation in 1933.
»www.goldline.com/coins/product/s···ens.html
Thanks for that info! :) ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MCMVII-Liberty-20-Dollar-Coin-22644084 Thu, 02 Jul 2009 10:07:50 EDT Re: MCMVII: Liberty 20 Dollar Coin http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MCMVII-Liberty-20-Dollar-Coin-22644067
"In God We Trust" Coin Inscription
Although the newly minted $20 Saint-Gaudens coin was ready for circulation in 1907, an important inscription was omitted: "In God We Trust" (hence the name "No Motto"). Although our country's motto had appeared on almost every gold coin minted for the previous 100 years, President Roosevelt felt that the Lord's name should not appear on coins that could be used in transactions in brothels, saloons, and gambling halls, making them "close to sacrilege".

At first, the President's order was followed: none of the 1907 and only a small portion of the rare 1908 $20 St. Gaudens gold coins included the motto. Despite his motivations, the public - and Congress - construed the omission of this motto as an attack on religion. The resulting uprorar quickly led to a Congressional Act restoring the inscription of "In God We Trust" in mid-1908. The motto remained until the government stopped striking gold coins for circulation in 1933.
»www.goldline.com/coins/product/s···ens.html]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MCMVII-Liberty-20-Dollar-Coin-22644067 Thu, 02 Jul 2009 10:04:37 EDT Re: MCMVII: Liberty 20 Dollar Coin http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MCMVII-Liberty-20-Dollar-Coin-22644022
Any numismatist will tell you such, and if you told them you cleaned it then it's now worth -0-.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MCMVII-Liberty-20-Dollar-Coin-22644022 Thu, 02 Jul 2009 09:55:36 EDT Re: MCMVII: Liberty 20 Dollar Coin http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MCMVII-Liberty-20-Dollar-Coin-22643994 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MCMVII-Liberty-20-Dollar-Coin-22643994 Thu, 02 Jul 2009 09:52:31 EDT Re: MCMVII: Liberty 20 Dollar Coin http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MCMVII-Liberty-20-Dollar-Coin-22643693 Here is an 1899 gold Russian coin I have (not a great pic). Even after 110 years, there's no "tarnish".
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MCMVII-Liberty-20-Dollar-Coin-22643693 Thu, 02 Jul 2009 08:36:44 EDT Re: MCMVII: Liberty 20 Dollar Coin http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MCMVII-Liberty-20-Dollar-Coin-22643678 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MCMVII-Liberty-20-Dollar-Coin-22643678 Thu, 02 Jul 2009 08:30:28 EDT Re: MCMVII: Liberty 20 Dollar Coin http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MCMVII-Liberty-20-Dollar-Coin-22643623 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MCMVII-Liberty-20-Dollar-Coin-22643623 Thu, 02 Jul 2009 08:08:05 EDT Re: MCMVII: Liberty 20 Dollar Coin http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MCMVII-Liberty-20-Dollar-Coin-22643607 said by tim_k:

Yeah, from that picture it looks like the gold coloring has worn off in spots. Certainly a fake if it's not uniformly gold.
That's just a little bit of tarnish! ;)
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Looks like it might be a fake.
»www.coinfacts.com/double_eagles/···dens.htm

•It may be your photo, but if the coin is as discolored as it appears, it is not gold. A gold coin will not discolor. It will wear from handling, but it will still be bright gold.

Yeah, from that picture it looks like the gold coloring has worn off in spots. Certainly a fake if it's not uniformly gold.
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I'm not too sure what the difference between a reeded and a lettered edge is... but from what I have observed and described about the coin, it looks like a reeded edge.
The US Quarter is a reeded edge.

Specifications

Composition: Cupro-Nickel: 8.33% Ni, Balance Cu
Weight: 5.670 g
Diameter: 0.955 in., 24.26 mm
Thickness: 1.75 mm
Edge: 119 reeds

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The UK pound edge writing, top is fake

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You seem somewhat uncertain as to whether you really believe it to be fake or not. As I said earlier, a coin dealer, if you have one in your area, could tell you. The St. Gaudens $20 gold coins of certain date/mint marks were widely faked because some of them became enormously valuable.
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I don't disagree with you or others here that it's probably a fake. I had once cleaned it when I first found it many many years ago and it turned out incredibly shiny and very gold "looking". The discoloration happened after as a result of things like coke and other items being spilled onto it carelessly throughout the years. It was never considered to be genuine (as per the mishandling of it) but it has also never been checked out. I'm sure I could clean it up again to what it once closely looked like before the discoloration, but I don't want to risk a second cleaning myself as I've heard there is the possibility of damage.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MCMVII-Liberty-20-Dollar-Coin-22643313 Thu, 02 Jul 2009 03:21:59 EDT Re: MCMVII: Liberty 20 Dollar Coin http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MCMVII-Liberty-20-Dollar-Coin-22643284 --
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•It may be your photo, but if the coin is as discolored as it appears, it is not gold. A gold coin will not discolor. It will wear from handling, but it will still be bright gold.

•The rays on the reverse appear to be a give-away. In the link, the ray that passes behind the head of the eagle touches the rim. Your does not.

•The first, third and fifth rays are very subdued in the link. Yours are not.

If it is real and in collectible condition it could be worth around $1400. If the wear is as heavy as it appears, it is probable worth about melt value.

The St. Gaudens gold coins are some of most valuable and desirable gold coins there are. Good chance it is fake. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MCMVII-Liberty-20-Dollar-Coin-22643051 Thu, 02 Jul 2009 01:07:39 EDT Re: MCMVII: Liberty 20 Dollar Coin http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MCMVII-Liberty-20-Dollar-Coin-22643032
The rim doesn't look right and the coloring on the high spots that show wear is also rather strange.

Were it real, it would potentially be worth a small fortune, depending upon the type for that date.

A proper coin dealer could check it out for you.
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Can you post the edge?

You can measure it and weigh it, as well.

The $20 Liberty Head gold coin and its successor, the St. Gaudens, are the largest coins produced (1850-1933) by the U.S. Mint for general coinage. Measuring 34 mm in diameter, the coins weigh 33.436 grams each (One ounce contains 31.1 grams), are alloys of 90% gold and 10% copper, and each contains .9675 ounce of gold. Twenty-dollar Liberty gold coins have reeded (milled) edges, but the St. Gaudens have lettered edges.

»www.cmi-gold-silver.com/liberty-···kpZDJb&D
Thanks to everyone for the helpful advise and interest in this. :)
I will try again to take a picture of the edge of the coin. It was really hard to take a picture as my camera would not focus right. The seam on the edge of the coin is very noticeable... almost as if two separate coins were pressed together. I will measure and weigh it when I get another chance. I'm pretty sure it's fake... but then again I have no clue about coins nor have I spoken with anyone who has. It really would be surprising if it was real. I'm not too sure what the difference between a reeded and a lettered edge is... but from what I have observed and described about the coin, it looks like a reeded edge.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MCMVII-Liberty-20-Dollar-Coin-22642867 Wed, 01 Jul 2009 23:58:47 EDT Re: MCMVII: Liberty 20 Dollar Coin http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MCMVII-Liberty-20-Dollar-Coin-22642820 said by Dustyn:

I have this twenty dollar U.S. coin, but I have no idea if it's real or not... I have very little information on it. Someone told me that if the coin has a very obvious seam all around the edges, it's fake? This one has a seam... but weren't coins made like this many many years ago? I'd have to take a trip to Toronto or Barrie to find an expert in coins to verify. I know my lousy pictures don't really do much justice.
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You can measure it and weigh it, as well.

The $20 Liberty Head gold coin and its successor, the St. Gaudens, are the largest coins produced (1850-1933) by the U.S. Mint for general coinage. Measuring 34 mm in diameter, the coins weigh 33.436 grams each (One ounce contains 31.1 grams), are alloys of 90% gold and 10% copper, and each contains .9675 ounce of gold. Twenty-dollar Liberty gold coins have reeded (milled) edges, but the St. Gaudens have lettered edges.

»www.cmi-gold-silver.com/liberty-···kpZDJb&D
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MCMVII-Liberty-20-Dollar-Coin-22642114 Wed, 01 Jul 2009 21:04:43 EDT Re: MCMVII: Liberty 20 Dollar Coin http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MCMVII-Liberty-20-Dollar-Coin-22641978 --
I threw out the map a long time ago. Now I follow my own direction!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-MCMVII-Liberty-20-Dollar-Coin-22641978 Wed, 01 Jul 2009 20:35:17 EDT