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Canada's commercial seal hunt protested on nation's birthday

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OTTAWA — One of the biggest celebrities on Parliament Hill Wednesday capitalized on the opportunity to speak out against Canada’s seal hunt.

Clad in a powder blue T-shirt with an image of a seal pup drawn on it, Sarah McLachlan condemned Canada’s commercial sealing industry, calling it “perverse and sick.”

McLachlan, the musical headliner at the Canada Day festivities in Ottawa, told CTV news she sees no reason that the hunt should persist.

“It’s terribly inhumane,” she said. “It’s archaic and horrible and I want it to stop.”

Lindsay Rajt, a spokeswoman with People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, said the organization was “absolutely thrilled” to see McLachlan perform in one of its “Save the Seals” T-shirts around the same time PETA members across the world were preparing to demonstrate against the Canadian seal hunt.

continued: »www.canada.com/news/national/Can···ory.html

We pay her to sing, she mouths off. Refund?

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Re: Canada's commercial seal hunt protested on nation's birthday

Sarah Mclachlan has been recognized and celebrated nationally and internationally for her contributions and support of both humanitarian initiatives and animal rights.

If you don't like it, too bad. What have you done for humanity lately?

said by »www.dosomething.org/blog/celebsg···ian-hero :
[Sarah Mclachlan] is known for her humanitarian contributions to charities and organizations both nationally and internationally that often uses music to promote social change.

In 1997, Sarah founded the Lilith Fair, a touring concert festival that showcases and promotes women in music and has since raised over $7 million for charities and women's shelters across North America. In 1999, she founded the Sarah McLachlan Foundation to help bring music to young Canadians, especially in underprivileged areas; and in 2003 she created the first Sarah McLachlan Music Outreach that offers students free high-quality music lessons, educational workshops, and mentorship and support networks to encourage children to explore music and learning. Lastly in 2004, Sarah created a Grammy Award nominated video for the single "World on Fire," which donated $150,000 of its production budget to 11 charities including CARE, Engineers Without Borders, Help the Aged, and Warchild and Heifer International.

And who could forget Sarah's emotional TV ad that featured her multiplatinum hit song "Angel" to promote the BC SPCA's animal adoption campaign? Since 2006, Sarah has been a spokesperson for the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals, raising awareness for animals that have suffered abuse and neglect.

"I am honored and humbled to receive the Alan Waters Humanitarian Award," Sarah said of the soon-to-come accolade. "I feel so lucky and blessed in my life and giving back feels right and good--it's the best way I know to thank the universe."

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Re: Canada's commercial seal hunt protested on nation's birthday

Odd, when one attends a concert, the idea is to hear music, not a political speech. But of course if you agree with the content, as you do, no problem right?
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Re: Canada's commercial seal hunt protested on nation's birthday

A world-renowned Canadian artist and humanitarian with the power to draw enormous concert fees was performing free at a public event. She said a few words in support of a significant issue that is staining Canada's image in the international community -- it was hardly a "political speech".

And I'd be happy to refund to our anonymous troll the free cost of admission, if he had actually been there.
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Re: Canada's commercial seal hunt protested on nation's birthday

said by Wolfie00 See Profile :

A world-renowned Canadian artist and humanitarian with the power to draw enormous concert fees was performing free at a public event. She said a few words in support of a significant issue that is staining Canada's image in the international community -- it was hardly a "political speech".

Being that no one would pay money to hear her political speech, it seems fitting that it was free.

Bitwise

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I didn't know she performed for free. Link?

I still share the opinion of others in this thread that there's a time and a place for activism. While you're performing on Canada's birthday is not it.

hmm anon troll

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And I'd be happy to refund to our anonymous troll the free cost of admission, if he had actually been there.
I was there. I saw it and saw her.

Wanna pay me now?

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said by Wolfie00 See Profile :

What have you done for humanity lately?
I farted into a jar and saved it - one toot saved by me, one less methane+CO2+etc. emission our poor planet has to deal with.

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said by Bitwise :

said by Wolfie00 See Profile :

What have you done for humanity lately?
I farted into a jar and saved it - one toot saved by me, one less methane+CO2+etc. emission our poor planet has to deal with.
Please send jar to:

Honourable Al Gore
2100 West End Avenue
Suite 620 Nashville, TN.
37203
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said by Mark Z See Profile :

said by Bitwise :

said by Wolfie00 See Profile :

What have you done for humanity lately?
I farted into a jar and saved it - one toot saved by me, one less methane+CO2+etc. emission our poor planet has to deal with.
Please send jar to:

Honourable Al Gore
2100 West End Avenue
Suite 620 Nashville, TN.
37203
I wonder if he can get a tax break since he off-setted his green house emissions?

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Granted Wolfie, but it really doesn't really seem like the appropriate venue for her to get on her soapbox. But that's just my opinion.
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said by Raptor See Profile :

Granted Wolfie, but it really doesn't really seem like the appropriate venue for her to get on her soapbox. But that's just my opinion.
don't stare too deeply into the Wolfie00 vortex

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Sarah McLachlan is perverse and sick, her views suck about as bad as her music does. She had ZERO business bringing her small minded elitist views to a Parliament Hill Canada Day concert, heres hoping she never gets invited back

Hackapics have been banned, didn't she know...not that she cares, just another elitist who won't rest until her opinion is enforceable on others.

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Re: Canada's commercial seal hunt protested on nation's birthday

I think she doesn't understand the issue.

All she sees are baby pups (which aren't killed) why isn't she wearing a baby deer shirt? Same thing.

How about a baby bear shirt? How about a baby moose shirt? How about a shirt with ducklings? How about a shirt with fish eggs?

Does that stuff "tarnish" the canadian image?

In fact, the only think that is tarnishing the image is mis-information like is printed on her shirt. The pups are not killed so why wear one on the shirt? Protesters like her tarnish the image of the seal hunt.
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said by Wolfie00 See Profile :

If you don't like it, too bad. What have you done for humanity lately?
She's not doing it for humanity, she's doing it for the seals...seals aren't human.

As far as humanity goes, what about all the maritime fisherman that have gone to starve because the exploding seal population has eaten all the fish? Whole communities that once thrived are whithering away. Aren't they a part of actual humanity? If it came to a choice between dead fisherman or dead seals, who would you choose?...whoever Sarah McLachlan told you to? What qualifies Sarah McLachlan to make a decision like that?

As far as Sarah McLachlan goes, she's a species traitor if you ask me...we should strip her of all her humanly possessions and make her go live with her buddies the seals.

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said by davidl See Profile :

She's not doing it for humanity, she's doing it for the seals...seals aren't human.
That's not what I said. I said Mclachlan has been recognized and celebrated nationally and internationally for her contributions and support of both humanitarian initiatives and animal rights. It's all part of the same values. We would be a better nation and a better people if we more fully shared those values -- if we had more people like Sarah and fewer of the kind exemplified by some of the barely literate trolls opining here.

Fortunately, Canada's culture mostly does reflect enlightened values of compassion and empathy and we are seen that way around the world, but the seal hunt is an incongruous example of where we are still tolerating a practice from a primitive and barbaric past that should be a source of shame to all Canadians. Canada's birthday was a perfectly appropriate time to remind us of that. Clearly some here feel that the seal hunt is just peachy, but I would hope that even they can understand that we protect the right to freedom of expression in this country.
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Re: Canada's commercial seal hunt protested on nation's birthday

It's not about freedom of speech, it's when it's appropriate to exercise it. A captive audience gathered under false pretenses is not the appropriate time.

It seems you will only understand that when such speech is delivered with content that you don't like. A music concert is never a good venue for political speeches, left or right, unless the attendees have been made aware it prior.
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said by Wolfie00 See Profile :

We would be a better nation and a better people if we more fully shared those values -- if we had more people like Sarah and fewer of the kind exemplified by some of the barely literate trolls opining here.
Why are all anonymous users abused like this? Why is this permitted? Twice in this thread from the same member.

I've read the definition of "Trolling" and a "Troll" here. I don't think my posts remotely qualify. None the less, long time members are allowed to throw out personal insults and attacks along with a healthy dose of rambling rhetoric.

As for my literacy, I'm not the one incapable of basic reading comprehension. Is Wolfie00 not aware that everything he has babbled about is off topic?

Same old

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Re: Canada's commercial seal hunt protested on nation's birthday

Normally the trolls try to make out others are trolls. Hence the replies he gives.

Same old...


Tenar

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said by Wolfie00 See Profile :

Fortunately, Canada's culture mostly does reflect enlightened values of compassion and empathy and we are seen that way around the world, but the seal hunt is an incongruous example of where we are still tolerating a practice from a primitive and barbaric past that should be a source of shame to all Canadians.
What is the difference between hunting seals and hunting anything else? (deer, bears, fish, rabbits)

What is the difference between eating beef and eating seal meat?

What is the difference between wearing leather and wearing seal fur?

Canada also has an image as vast area for hunting and fishing. How does the seal hunt tarnish that image?

I will never be ashamed of my seal hunting heritage, but I am ashamed to call people who make statements like the above my fellow countrymen.
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Re: Canada's commercial seal hunt protested on nation's birthday

A lot of it has to do with the optics of the actual hunt.

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said by Tenar See Profile :

What is the difference between hunting seals and hunting anything else? (deer, bears, fish, rabbits)
Bears have biiiig sharp teeth and look mean!

Seals are cute and cuddly!
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said by urbanriot See Profile :

said by Tenar See Profile :

What is the difference between hunting seals and hunting anything else? (deer, bears, fish, rabbits)
Bears have biiiig sharp teeth and look mean!

Seals are cute and cuddly!
So are Bambi & Thumper

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said by urbanriot See Profile :

Bears have biiiig sharp teeth and look mean!
Godless killing machines!!!
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said by Wolfie00 See Profile :

...but the seal hunt is an incongruous example of where we are still tolerating a practice from a primitive and barbaric past that should be a source of shame to all Canadians.
I'm proud of our 'barbaric' past...all these thousands of generations of blood, sweat and tears to claw our way to the top of the food chain...it wasn't easy but here we are

I wonder what seal burgers would be like?...hmmmm.

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Re: Canada's commercial seal hunt protested on nation's birthday

Yep, you've also earned the right to stick a firecracker into a cat's ass and watch the "fun". Too bad that with all this evolution, only some of us have evolved brains.

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Re: Canada's commercial seal hunt protested on nation's birthday

said by Wolfie00 See Profile :

Yep, you've also earned the right to stick a firecracker into a cat's ass and watch the "fun". Too bad that with all this evolution, only some of us have evolved brains.
Some of us have enough of a brain to look beyond the incorrect propaganda and judge an issue on it's own rather than let celebrities make decisions for us.

You must also be against commercial fishing and sport hunting. There is just as much blood and guts spilled over tuna fishing as there is seal hunting.

Many places in northern ontario run their whole business on sport hunting catering to many tourists who want to hunt in canada's vast wilderness areas. I guess you want them out of a job too.

Seals are killed humanly. There were reports done that confirmed this.

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said by Tenar See Profile :

said by Wolfie00 See Profile :

Yep, you've also earned the right to stick a firecracker into a cat's ass and watch the "fun". Too bad that with all this evolution, only some of us have evolved brains.
Some of us have enough of a brain to look beyond the incorrect propaganda and judge an issue on it's own rather than let celebrities make decisions for us.

You must also be against commercial fishing and sport hunting. There is just as much blood and guts spilled over tuna fishing as there is seal hunting.

Many places in northern ontario run their whole business on sport hunting catering to many tourists who want to hunt in canada's vast wilderness areas. I guess you want them out of a job too.

He has already made the inference that those who engage in said activities up north are compensating for 'short penis' syndrome (made in a CanPol gun control thread), though my money is placed squarely on a transference of his own umm...'deficiencies'
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Re: Canada's commercial seal hunt protested on nation's birthday

He has already made the inference that those who engage in said activities up north are compensating for 'short penis' syndrome

Yeah, that's soooo 70's hippie-liberal-radical-feminist when everything was a 'phallic symbol'...they were pretty obsessed with penises...it's plain to see they haven't come up with anything new in 40 years...same old talking points, same old attacks on whoever doesn't agree with them.

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I can't help you with burgers but since you're in QC,

Canadian Chefs Serve Seal, With a Side of Controversy
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ONE evening last week, almost every seat was occupied at Au Cinquième Péché, a bistro in the bustling neighborhood called the Plateau. And almost every table was sampling an appetizer plate that included a specialty of the restaurant’s French-born chef, Benoît Lenglet: a seared, rare loin, dark red in color, with a texture and taste akin to beef tenderloin. But the meat was not beef. It was seal.

Across town, at Les Îles en Ville, Andrée Garcia, an owner and chef, has elevated seal from an occasional specialty to a regular feature. The most frequent preparation there, Ms. Garcia said, is a filet-mignon-style cut of seal that is pan-seared, then roasted briefly in the oven and finished with a cranberry sauce. She has noticed a pattern among the customers who order it: many are tourists from France. “The French are against seal hunting,” Ms. Garcia said, “but when they come here, they want to eat it.”
continued: »www.nytimes.com/2009/07/01/dinin···eal.html
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Re: Canada's commercial seal hunt protested on nation's birthday

But the meat was not beef. It was seal.

Awesome, they even taste like beeeeeeef
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said by Wolfie00 See Profile :

said by davidl See Profile :

She's not doing it for humanity, she's doing it for the seals...seals aren't human.
That's not what I said. I said Mclachlan has been recognized and celebrated nationally and internationally for her contributions and support of both humanitarian initiatives and animal rights. It's all part of the same values. We would be a better nation and a better people if we more fully shared those values -- if we had more people like Sarah and fewer of the kind exemplified by some of the barely literate trolls opining here.

Fortunately, Canada's culture mostly does reflect enlightened values of compassion and empathy and we are seen that way around the world, but the seal hunt is an incongruous example of where we are still tolerating a practice from a primitive and barbaric past that should be a source of shame to all Canadians. Canada's birthday was a perfectly appropriate time to remind us of that. Clearly some here feel that the seal hunt is just peachy, but I would hope that even they can understand that we protect the right to freedom of expression in this country.
The seal hunt is not primitive and barbaric. It's no different than the killing of any other animal, but seals are cute and a great way to spread the propaganda and bring in the cash for IFAW, HSUS, PETA and company.

Yes, all we need in Canada are more idiots like her protesting humane ways of life for thousands of Canadians.

I don't participate in the hunt myself, but it has kept food on the table and the bills paid for my family and many other families in my old hometown for years.

Maybe you should take a look at this website:
»www.thesealfishery.com

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Red blood on white fur and snow is a ghastly image for women to grapple with.We really should have a law against killing cute animals so we do not offend women and overly sensitive men.

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»www.theglobeandmail.com/news/opi···1206016/

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"It's archaic and horrible and I want it to stop.”

I know exactly how Sarah McLachlan (for these are her words on the subject of the seal hunt) feels. I have felt precisely the same, down to the very syllables, if I may put it that way, whenever I have fallen within ear-hurt of a folk music concert. Lord, years ago, how common they were, whining on about - well, I'm not going to start the list. They whined on about everything. That's what folk singers did. They whined. Three chords on an out-of-tune flat-top guitar and whine.

They looked serious, so serious - and sad, so sad - and they whined. I remember distinctly, over and over again, whenever the mischiefs of fate decreed that I be dragged to a folk music concert, or lived too close to some of the poor addicts of the form, whenever Dylan or Donovan (oh God, still the memory - Donovan) held the car radio hostage or the dreaded triple-headed Demogorgon Peter, Paul and Mary blistered the eardrums and sank my soul - I remember my piercing outcry: “It's archaic and horrible and I want it to stop.”

No one listened to me, of course. Why should they? Who was I, after all, to call a halt to such a tidal wave of whining twaddle? Others, obviously but inexplicably, liked it. C'est la vie.

I was sick of John (Steel-Drivin' Man) Henry, sick of This Land is Your Land , and sick to the very heart every time some dopey-eyed, long-haired sad sack, guitar in hand, came out on some television variety show to bleat about Michael rowing that damn boat ashore. And what else, precisely, was he going to do with it? All boats, eventually, having been rowed out from shore, are rowed back to it.

It was all so archaic and horrible and, Lord, did I want it to stop. But it didn't, and I never really expected it would or, for that matter, should. Other people liked this stuff and, it is dimly possible, still do. So my feelings on the matter have no special standing, and I sure as hell wouldn't take advantage of some public occasion - say, a Canada Day celebration - to elevate my private taste to public protest, hijack a moment of the nation's birthday to bleat about a “personal” cause.

Sarah McLachlan, obviously, is not as much of a fan of diversity as I am. She came to Canada Day wearing a PETA T-shirt. Whatever else PETA is, most sensible people will agree it is tasteless, vulgar and vile. It has had some of the very crudest and most insensitive exercises in the history of so-called protest, of which I will cite only “the Holocaust on your plate” campaign, which, in my judgment, reached the level of a blasphemy against the memory of the six million Jewish people exterminated in Hitler's death camps.

How crude that was you may easily measure for yourself: It featured a picture of a starving man in a concentration camp next to the picture of a starving cow. I wrote “crude” just now, but that word is far too feeble to convey the abject, garish viciousness of such a juxtaposition. A PETA T-shirt, as this example demonstrates, is not the banner of a serious moral sensibility.

Once again, Ms. McLachlan's own words on the seal hunt this Canada Day are far more descriptive of PETA's outrages than anything she is protesting. “Perverse and sick” is how she described the hunt. Well, I'm not so sure. Exploiting the memory of six million dead for cheap publicity, putting a “cow” in any equivalence with history's greatest crime, that is “perverse and sick.”

Actually, I think putting on a PETA T-shirt might be one signal that you've surrendered any moral leverage you may vaguely possess to lecture anyone about anything. And calling the traditional lifeline of some of Canada's northern aboriginals “perverse and sick” might suggest the person doing the calling is less familiar with the concepts of tolerance and diversity than most would hope. As does slandering those on the East Coast who have found the hunt a needed resource for more than a century and a half.

But Ms. McLachlan does have Pamela Anderson in her corner – and what is time and native culture against that bulwark? A queen of soft-core porn and PETA: There's an alliance.

Ms. McLachlan could learn a lot on this issue from a far more worthy source. Our own Governor-General, who, by her gesture of respect to the hunt a near month ago, showed more class and understanding than PETA and its camera-hungry devotees - on Canada Day or any other - can ever hope to approach.

And, yeah, pushing the cause on Canada Day was just tacky.
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Re: Rex Murphy takes aim:

That is gold!

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Rex Murphy, as he often is, was right on the money with that.
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Re: Rex Murphy takes aim:

Such simple minds hunters. What a shame we are not allowed to hunt them.

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said by MikeA1972 See Profile :

Such simple minds hunters. What a shame we are not allowed to hunt them.
wat?

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Re: Rex Murphy takes aim:

He is yet another idiot who has already stated: "I wish hunters could be denied air" in another seal hunt thread, though Chelle_Belle in her infinite wisdom deleted the post.

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I wonder if Sarah McLachlan despises most of the other hunter/gather communities in the world? I wonder if at her next concert she will voice similar scorn over similar actions in Africa, Asia, South America where people hunt for their food?

I wonder if she will voice disgust at the actions of our beloved Governor General in support of the seal hunt...

NO... I did not think not.... Simply put, McLachlan is a hypocrite like most of these celebrity, self righteous brats...
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