  urbanriot
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| reply to Tenar Re: Canada's commercial seal hunt protested on nation's birthday
said by Tenar :What is the difference between hunting seals and hunting anything else? (deer, bears, fish, rabbits) Bears have biiiig sharp teeth and look mean! 
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| said by urbanriot :said by Tenar :What is the difference between hunting seals and hunting anything else? (deer, bears, fish, rabbits) Bears have biiiig sharp teeth and look mean!  Seals are cute and cuddly! So are Bambi & Thumper  |
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| reply to Bitwise said by Bitwise :said by Wolfie00 :What have you done for humanity lately? I farted into a jar and saved it - one toot saved by me, one less methane+CO2+etc. emission our poor planet has to deal with. Please send jar to:
Honourable Al Gore 2100 West End Avenue Suite 620 Nashville, TN. 37203 -- -A nation of sheep shall be ruled by pigs. -If I give up all my freedom, then I'll be safe. -I'm having trouble keeping up with all the things I'm supposed to be afraid of.
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| reply to urbanriot said by urbanriot :Bears have biiiig sharp teeth and look mean!  Godless killing machines!!!  |
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| reply to Mark Z said by Mark Z :said by Bitwise :said by Wolfie00 :What have you done for humanity lately? I farted into a jar and saved it - one toot saved by me, one less methane+CO2+etc. emission our poor planet has to deal with. Please send jar to: Honourable Al Gore 2100 West End Avenue Suite 620 Nashville, TN. 37203 I wonder if he can get a tax break since he off-setted his green house emissions? |
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| reply to Wolfie00 said by Wolfie00 :...but the seal hunt is an incongruous example of where we are still tolerating a practice from a primitive and barbaric past that should be a source of shame to all Canadians. I'm proud of our 'barbaric' past...all these thousands of generations of blood, sweat and tears to claw our way to the top of the food chain...it wasn't easy but here we are 
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  Wolfie00 My dog is an elitist Premium join:2005-03-12 | Yep, you've also earned the right to stick a firecracker into a cat's ass and watch the "fun". Too bad that with all this evolution, only some of us have evolved brains. |
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Canadian Chefs Serve Seal, With a Side of Controversy quote: ONE evening last week, almost every seat was occupied at Au Cinquième Péché, a bistro in the bustling neighborhood called the Plateau. And almost every table was sampling an appetizer plate that included a specialty of the restaurants French-born chef, Benoît Lenglet: a seared, rare loin, dark red in color, with a texture and taste akin to beef tenderloin. But the meat was not beef. It was seal.
Across town, at Les Îles en Ville, Andrée Garcia, an owner and chef, has elevated seal from an occasional specialty to a regular feature. The most frequent preparation there, Ms. Garcia said, is a filet-mignon-style cut of seal that is pan-seared, then roasted briefly in the oven and finished with a cranberry sauce. She has noticed a pattern among the customers who order it: many are tourists from France. The French are against seal hunting, Ms. Garcia said, but when they come here, they want to eat it.
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| reply to Wolfie00 said by Wolfie00 :Yep, you've also earned the right to stick a firecracker into a cat's ass and watch the "fun".  Too bad that with all this evolution, only some of us have evolved brains. Some of us have enough of a brain to look beyond the incorrect propaganda and judge an issue on it's own rather than let celebrities make decisions for us.
You must also be against commercial fishing and sport hunting. There is just as much blood and guts spilled over tuna fishing as there is seal hunting.
Many places in northern ontario run their whole business on sport hunting catering to many tourists who want to hunt in canada's vast wilderness areas. I guess you want them out of a job too.
Seals are killed humanly. There were reports done that confirmed this. |
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join:2008-07-11 Vaudreuil-Dorion, QC | reply to Bitwise But the meat was not beef. It was seal.
Awesome, they even taste like beeeeeeef  |
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| reply to Tenar said by Tenar :said by Wolfie00 :Yep, you've also earned the right to stick a firecracker into a cat's ass and watch the "fun".  Too bad that with all this evolution, only some of us have evolved brains. Some of us have enough of a brain to look beyond the incorrect propaganda and judge an issue on it's own rather than let celebrities make decisions for us. You must also be against commercial fishing and sport hunting. There is just as much blood and guts spilled over tuna fishing as there is seal hunting. Many places in northern ontario run their whole business on sport hunting catering to many tourists who want to hunt in canada's vast wilderness areas. I guess you want them out of a job too. He has already made the inference that those who engage in said activities up north are compensating for 'short penis' syndrome (made in a CanPol gun control thread), though my money is placed squarely on a transference of his own umm...'deficiencies'  -- -A nation of sheep shall be ruled by pigs. -If I give up all my freedom, then I'll be safe. -I'm having trouble keeping up with all the things I'm supposed to be afraid of.
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| He has already made the inference that those who engage in said activities up north are compensating for 'short penis' syndrome
Yeah, that's soooo 70's hippie-liberal-radical-feminist when everything was a 'phallic symbol'...they were pretty obsessed with penises...it's plain to see they haven't come up with anything new in 40 years...same old talking points, same old attacks on whoever doesn't agree with them. |
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1 edit | reply to Wolfie00 said by Wolfie00 :said by davidl :She's not doing it for humanity, she's doing it for the seals...seals aren't human. That's not what I said. I said Mclachlan has been recognized and celebrated nationally and internationally for her contributions and support of both humanitarian initiatives and animal rights. It's all part of the same values. We would be a better nation and a better people if we more fully shared those values -- if we had more people like Sarah and fewer of the kind exemplified by some of the barely literate trolls opining here. Fortunately, Canada's culture mostly does reflect enlightened values of compassion and empathy and we are seen that way around the world, but the seal hunt is an incongruous example of where we are still tolerating a practice from a primitive and barbaric past that should be a source of shame to all Canadians. Canada's birthday was a perfectly appropriate time to remind us of that. Clearly some here feel that the seal hunt is just peachy, but I would hope that even they can understand that we protect the right to freedom of expression in this country. The seal hunt is not primitive and barbaric. It's no different than the killing of any other animal, but seals are cute and a great way to spread the propaganda and bring in the cash for IFAW, HSUS, PETA and company.
Yes, all we need in Canada are more idiots like her protesting humane ways of life for thousands of Canadians.
I don't participate in the hunt myself, but it has kept food on the table and the bills paid for my family and many other families in my old hometown for years.
Maybe you should take a look at this website: »www.thesealfishery.com |
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| Why don't these celebrities protest against Spain's bullfighting? Or better yet the inhumane cruelties against children in many parts of the world?
My cat is much more cruel with any rodent it catches then these sealers will ever be.... Nature itself is cruel and we are a part of nature...
Bull, dog or cock fighting is cruel and senseless.... The seal hunt is not... |
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| All of those things you mention are the subject of protests, and most of them are illegal.
As for your cat, I would hope that you -- that all of us -- are more intelligent and more compassionate than your cat. It's disingenuous for you to talk about nature being cruel while another poster crows about how we are at the top of the food chain. Being at the top, and being endowed with unique intelligence and empathy, also carries with it certain responsibilities that are not incumbent on lower animals.
And yet, the way some of the more intelligent animals treat each other puts some humans to shame.


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1 edit | said by Wolfie00 :And yet, the way some of the more intelligent animals treat each other puts some humans to shame. Somehow I think that bear cub is pretty well fed. Adult Polar Bears arn't so gentle.
Ask Seigfred and Roy how that "intelligent" lion treated Roy.
Nothing about the "circle of life" is gentle. Animals eat animals. WE are no different. And killing a seal for food is no different than killing a cow. |
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1 edit | reply to Bitwise Rex Murphy takes aim:
»www.theglobeandmail.com/news/opi···1206016/
quote: "It's archaic and horrible and I want it to stop.
I know exactly how Sarah McLachlan (for these are her words on the subject of the seal hunt) feels. I have felt precisely the same, down to the very syllables, if I may put it that way, whenever I have fallen within ear-hurt of a folk music concert. Lord, years ago, how common they were, whining on about - well, I'm not going to start the list. They whined on about everything. That's what folk singers did. They whined. Three chords on an out-of-tune flat-top guitar and whine.
They looked serious, so serious - and sad, so sad - and they whined. I remember distinctly, over and over again, whenever the mischiefs of fate decreed that I be dragged to a folk music concert, or lived too close to some of the poor addicts of the form, whenever Dylan or Donovan (oh God, still the memory - Donovan) held the car radio hostage or the dreaded triple-headed Demogorgon Peter, Paul and Mary blistered the eardrums and sank my soul - I remember my piercing outcry: It's archaic and horrible and I want it to stop.
No one listened to me, of course. Why should they? Who was I, after all, to call a halt to such a tidal wave of whining twaddle? Others, obviously but inexplicably, liked it. C'est la vie.
I was sick of John (Steel-Drivin' Man) Henry, sick of This Land is Your Land , and sick to the very heart every time some dopey-eyed, long-haired sad sack, guitar in hand, came out on some television variety show to bleat about Michael rowing that damn boat ashore. And what else, precisely, was he going to do with it? All boats, eventually, having been rowed out from shore, are rowed back to it.
It was all so archaic and horrible and, Lord, did I want it to stop. But it didn't, and I never really expected it would or, for that matter, should. Other people liked this stuff and, it is dimly possible, still do. So my feelings on the matter have no special standing, and I sure as hell wouldn't take advantage of some public occasion - say, a Canada Day celebration - to elevate my private taste to public protest, hijack a moment of the nation's birthday to bleat about a personal cause.
Sarah McLachlan, obviously, is not as much of a fan of diversity as I am. She came to Canada Day wearing a PETA T-shirt. Whatever else PETA is, most sensible people will agree it is tasteless, vulgar and vile. It has had some of the very crudest and most insensitive exercises in the history of so-called protest, of which I will cite only the Holocaust on your plate campaign, which, in my judgment, reached the level of a blasphemy against the memory of the six million Jewish people exterminated in Hitler's death camps.
How crude that was you may easily measure for yourself: It featured a picture of a starving man in a concentration camp next to the picture of a starving cow. I wrote crude just now, but that word is far too feeble to convey the abject, garish viciousness of such a juxtaposition. A PETA T-shirt, as this example demonstrates, is not the banner of a serious moral sensibility.
Once again, Ms. McLachlan's own words on the seal hunt this Canada Day are far more descriptive of PETA's outrages than anything she is protesting. Perverse and sick is how she described the hunt. Well, I'm not so sure. Exploiting the memory of six million dead for cheap publicity, putting a cow in any equivalence with history's greatest crime, that is perverse and sick.
Actually, I think putting on a PETA T-shirt might be one signal that you've surrendered any moral leverage you may vaguely possess to lecture anyone about anything. And calling the traditional lifeline of some of Canada's northern aboriginals perverse and sick might suggest the person doing the calling is less familiar with the concepts of tolerance and diversity than most would hope. As does slandering those on the East Coast who have found the hunt a needed resource for more than a century and a half.
But Ms. McLachlan does have Pamela Anderson in her corner and what is time and native culture against that bulwark? A queen of soft-core porn and PETA: There's an alliance.
Ms. McLachlan could learn a lot on this issue from a far more worthy source. Our own Governor-General, who, by her gesture of respect to the hunt a near month ago, showed more class and understanding than PETA and its camera-hungry devotees - on Canada Day or any other - can ever hope to approach.
And, yeah, pushing the cause on Canada Day was just tacky.
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  shaner Premium join:2000-10-04 Calgary, AB | That is gold! |
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  Snickerdo Premium join:2001-02-28 Niagara Falls, ON | reply to Mark Z Rex Murphy, as he often is, was right on the money with that. |
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