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Re: The 10 highest-earning American athletes +
I can't believe Shaq and Garnett beat Kobe on total earnings. |
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| said by zxt  :I can't believe Shaq and Garnett beat Kobe on total earnings. Looking at the list posted here, there's an adding error for Shaq. Either way, I can believe that Shaq would earn more because he's a much more marketable commodity than Kobe ever was, pre or post-rape.
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| My bad. I hand transcribed the list from the referenced link. Shaq makes $15M in endorsements. Fixed.
With respect to team payrolls decreasing, I don't think so. The marquee professional sports products [NFL/MLB/NBA/NASCAR] look to be recession resistant. I wouldn't count arena Football or Pro beach Volleyball and other 2nd/3rd tier sports entertainment products. Thy simply have not built the celebrities needed.
See this for some detailed NBA current payroll and future salary commitment status:
»hoopshype.com/salaries.htm |
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| said by dogma :The marquee professional sports products [NFL/MLB/NBA/NASCAR] look to be recession resistant. SO SO SO not the case! The NFL laid off a number of front office staff. Tom Hicks' fortune is in the shitter, and he needs to sell off the Rangers. There's the other examples I gave earlier. NASCAR has lost major sponsorship deals, and with GM in the shitter, they're looking to make a deal with a foreign engine maker. The Detroit Tigers lost their 2nd largest sponsor. And thats just off the top of my head.
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| said by The Dv8or :said by dogma :The marquee professional sports products [NFL/MLB/NBA/NASCAR] look to be recession resistant. SO SO SO not the case! The NFL laid off a number of front office staff. Tom Hicks' fortune is in the shitter, and he needs to sell off the Rangers. There's the other examples I gave earlier. NASCAR has lost major sponsorship deals, and with GM in the shitter, they're looking to make a deal with a foreign engine maker. The Detroit Tigers lost their 2nd largest sponsor. And thats just off the top of my head. This is true, although you've seen an impact on the NFL, NBA and NHL, I think the economy really got bad during or right before their seasons where contracts were largely already in place. I think this coming season you will see a huge impact which is more in line with what MLB has been seeing...
As for Kobe, for a long time he was marketing poison, it's just in the last year or two he has started to come out of it.
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| said by The Dv8or :The impact will be less on the NBA, NHL, and NFL than the MLB because of the salary caps in place, but there will be an effect. Maybe the larger discrepancies in projected players salaries may not be as severe but in terms of drops in attendance or ad revenue it should be similar.
You see a lot of deals around the league for a particular game on a particular night or just a general freezing or dropping of ticket prices in MLB. I think you will see similar signs in NBA, NFL and NHL this next year as a whole that things are worse.
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said by The Dv8or :said by zxt :I can't believe Shaq and Garnett beat Kobe on total earnings. Looking at the list posted here, there's an adding error for Shaq. Either way, I can believe that Shaq would earn more because he's a much more marketable commodity than Kobe ever was, pre or post-rape. I can't see why Shaq is more marketable than Kobe. Kobe has his own shoe right? Does shaq has his? It's an honest question. |
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| said by zaldy :I can't see why Shaq is more marketable than Kobe. Kobe has his own shoe right? Does shaq has his? It's an honest question. If you cant understand why Shaq is twelve times more marketable than Kobe, then you're clearly blinding yourself to Shaq's charisma. And by the way, Shaq had his own shoe years before Kobe had one. As a matter of fact, Reebok was trying to market a Shaq logo to replace the Air Jordan logo when Jordan retired. You clearly are a young child, seeing how you dont remember these things.
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| said by The Dv8or :said by zaldy :I can't see why Shaq is more marketable than Kobe. Kobe has his own shoe right? Does shaq has his? It's an honest question. If you cant understand why Shaq is twelve times more marketable than Kobe, then you're clearly blinding yourself to Shaq's charisma. And by the way, Shaq had his own shoe years before Kobe had one. As a matter of fact, Reebok was trying to market a Shaq logo to replace the Air Jordan logo when Jordan retired. You clearly are a young child, seeing how you dont remember these things. Well said.
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said by The Dv8or :said by zaldy :I can't see why Shaq is more marketable than Kobe. Kobe has his own shoe right? Does shaq has his? It's an honest question. If you cant understand why Shaq is twelve times more marketable than Kobe, then you're clearly blinding yourself to Shaq's charisma. Plus the fact that Kobe acts like a whiny little bitch most of the time. |
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said by The Dv8or :said by zaldy :I can't see why Shaq is more marketable than Kobe. Kobe has his own shoe right? Does shaq has his? It's an honest question. If you cant understand why Shaq is twelve times more marketable than Kobe, then you're clearly blinding yourself to Shaq's charisma. And by the way, Shaq had his own shoe years before Kobe had one. As a matter of fact, Reebok was trying to market a Shaq logo to replace the Air Jordan logo when Jordan retired. You clearly are a young child, seeing how you dont remember these things. In that case tell me why Forbes placed Kobe in number 2 position of World Top Athlete earners ahead of Lebron (6th) and Shaq (11th)
Last time I've checked, 45M is greater than 33M
»www.forbes.com/2009/06/17/top-ea···e_3.html Kobe number 2 with 45M
»www.forbes.com/2009/06/17/top-ea···e_7.html Lebron at 6th with 40M
»www.forbes.com/2009/06/17/top-ea···_13.html Shaq at 11 on 33M
Also how can a (Shaq) Reebok logo replaced a (Jordan) Nike logo? |
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said by zaldy :Also how can a (Shaq) Reebok logo replaced a (Jordan) Nike logo? Because Reebok was trying to push a logo that would hopefully be the most recognizable logo associated with a specific player. Everyone knew the Jordan logo, and Reebok wanted to counter.
As for how Forbes crunched these numbers, and why they're so drastically different from SI's numbers, I couldnt answer that until I see who used what formula.
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| Forbes is more reliable than SI with money... and Shaq could never replace Jordan on anything... and don't get upset that Kobe makes more than Shaq who the hell cares... Kobe is more marketable than Shaq boohoo
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said by The Dv8or :said by zaldy :Also how can a (Shaq) Reebok logo replaced a (Jordan) Nike logo? Because Reebok was trying to push a logo that would hopefully be the most recognizable logo associated with a specific player. Everyone knew the Jordan logo, and Reebok wanted to counter. As for how Forbes crunched these numbers, and why they're so drastically different from SI's numbers, I couldnt answer that until I see who used what formula. I guess then Shaq wasn't that marketable at all. I've asked a few co workers who likes to watch NBA too to name a few NBA players they know that has his own shoe. Jordan was the first answer most of the time. Kobe's name was mentioned 4 out of 5. Shaq was never mentioned.
I therefore conclude more people knew Kobe's line of shoe than Shaq's. So maybe Kobe is more marketable then? |
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