dumbfound
join:2008-07-10
Union, NJ
 ·Verizon FIOS
| 25/15 is 25/25?... --I posted before in the 25/15 forum but no replies so I'll try my luck with a main post...
So a verizon sales person was at my front door about 15minutes ago. He said in 3 weeks that my block is going to be upgrade that if I were to upgrade the 25/15 from my 20/20 that I should see 25/25 no problem with the upgraded hardware on the 25/15 plan. Anyone work in Verizon can tell me he is BS-ing and trying to make a sale or telling me the truth?
Also I asked him about customers on the 25/15 are seeing 25/25 results will they fix that he said no because basically stating oh the hardware can support. BS or NO? | |
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deblin
Dark Side of the Moon
Premium,MVM
join:2001-09-01
Middletown, DE
| Re: 25/15 is 25/25?... said by Smith6612  :He is not BSing you. Many here already have the 25Mbps/15Mbps package and see 25Mbps/25Mbps. You should be able to order that now. But yes, the hardware can handle the higher speeds. What is not clear is whether this "fluff" will remain indefinitely or whether it'll go *poof* one day without notice.
There is already one report of a person on 35/20 who was seeing 35/30-35 and is now seeing their advertised rate (35/20). Still waiting to see if they have run enough tests to confirm for certain, though.
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Phil
Rojo Sol
Premium
join:2001-06-11
Camarillo, CA | Re: 25/15 is 25/25?... Regardless I'm paying for 25/15 so I at least expect that. If it remains at 25/25 great. If not, still fine. | |
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deblin
Dark Side of the Moon
Premium,MVM
join:2001-09-01
Middletown, DE
| Re: 25/15 is 25/25?... said by Phil :Regardless I'm paying for 25/15 so I at least expect that. If it remains at 25/25 great. If not, still fine. I'm not saying 25/25 should be expected, just that it's what people are getting. It can and probably will go away, which I'm not looking forward to.
I would rather have had them provision as straight up 25/15 without this fluff crap if they are just going to take it away. I bit the bullet because by bundling I can save some money. But all things being equal, I'd rather have 20/20 than 25/15.
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Premium
join:2003-09-16
Pittsburgh, PA
1 edit | Re: 25/15 is 25/25?...
My son was just upgraded to 15/5 today. Just had a chance to test it, and it showed 25.5/4.9. My 20/5, in the same CO, always tests 4.5 to 4.6 on the up side, so his 5 up is better than mine ever was.
We're all BPON, built out in 05 - 06. I'm wondering if your level of "fluff" has anything to do with whether you're B or G PON. | |
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BLUNTED 1
join:2003-11-13
Floral Park, NY | Re: 25/15 is 25/25?... i'm on BPON and hitting 25 to 30 mp up every time so i dont think so unless your area is all FIOS users going nuts downloading and uploading. | |
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dumbfound
join:2008-07-10
Union, NJ
·Verizon FIOS
| Yeah. I've been keeping up with the forums lately and I asked the salesperson if they were going to take the extra 10meg upload he said "why would we?" and continue to say the network is allowing you to have it why would we take it... which was somewhat baffling to me since whats the points of the 25/25 tier? | |
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| Nesis
join:2009-06-12
Apollo Beach, FL
·Verizon FIOS
1 edit | Re: 25/15 is 25/25?... 
I live in Apollo Beach FL and I get the best speeds from the Corpus Christi TX test server. I was getting this speed from Atlanta, DC and Austin servers last week but that seems to have stopped as of today for some reason. | |
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| | NastyGrouch
join:2008-10-16
Astoria, NY | Re: 25/15 is 25/25?... NY over here and the speed hasnt changed since i got it.
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join:2003-12-09
Plano, TX
| Re: 25/15 is 25/25?... I've noticed that I get better results when using the Verizon speed test site (approx. 26/26 instead of 25/15) - I'm on the 25/15 plan:
»www2.verizon.net/micro/speedtest/java/
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THoff
join:2004-01-15
Santa Monica, CA
| I recently upgraded from 20/5 to 25/15 (I told myself I wouldn't, but you know what they say about resolutions), and while I'm not getting 25/25, I am getting faster than promised upload speeds:
I tried a couple of servers, that's the best I've seen. The physically closest server in Los Angeles is giving me the worst numbers. | |
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Agent Smith
join:2008-07-07
New York | The other post was cause i didnt tweak it i always forget to.
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SmartWater
join:2009-07-03 | damn, 35/35 is insane. lucky you... | |
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Raphion
join:2000-10-14
Samsara
| It seems Speedtest.net servers are becoming overloaded on their upload testing from all of us "fluffy" FiOS users pounding them. I think that's why upload speeds seem to be going all over now. I tested at speedtest.net just now and got 10Mbps up, then went straight to a web100 speed test, and got 24.5Mbps up. (this on a really fluffy 15/5 tier =p )
The speed tests aren't being reliable with our new speeds IMO. | |
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elbm
join:2000-08-03
Reisterstown, MD
·Verizon FIOS
| My understanding is VZ wanted to do 25/25 and 35/35 but legal got involved and, for some reason, said that most up-loaders would not see the full speeds and that is was best to advertise the lower upload. So the company did advertise the lower speeds but is provisioning at the higher. | |
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| Bytezboy
join:2001-05-17
New York, NY
| Re: 25/15 is 25/25?... said by elbm :My understanding is VZ wanted to do 25/25 and 35/35 but legal got involved and, for some reason, said that most up-loaders would not see the full speeds and that is was best to advertise the lower upload. So the company did advertise the lower speeds but is provisioning at the higher. I doubt it. If that was the case then the upload would never be advertised any higher in the future. | |
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elbm
join:2000-08-03
Reisterstown, MD | Re: 25/15 is 25/25?... As goofy as it sounds it is true. | |
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| Chaser
join:2008-11-10
Edmonds, WA
| said by elbm :My understanding is VZ wanted to do 25/25 and 35/35 but legal got involved and, for some reason, said that most up-loaders would not see the full speeds and that is was best to advertise the lower upload. So the company did advertise the lower speeds but is provisioning at the higher. Then what's supposed to happen in mid August? | |
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nasty
@verizon.net | Re: 25/15 is 25/25?... ive been having a issue tweaking, cant do it in firefox and ie8 is acting crazy | |
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Smith6612
Premium
join:2008-02-01
united state | Re: 25/15 is 25/25?... Try using a Web100/Java speed test. Those results on flash tests can be inaccurate. | |
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Hispanic
join:2000-01-22
Hoboken, NJ
| Re: 25/15 is 25/25?... aaronwt, ever since the speed upgrade, your upload has been erratic? I'm sorry to hear. I know how you feel about tech support. For the past few weeks i've been getting terrible speeds at night and no one knows what it is. All I get is that it is not a congestion issue. | |
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tp0d
yabbazooie
Premium
join:2001-02-13
Carnegie, PA
clubs:
·Verizon FIOS
2 edits | Re: 25/15 is 25/25?... Hell, I`m on 15/5, and I just tested at 24.3/10 last night --- »/archive/veriz···cid=&p=2 middle of page
I`m likin it tho lol
one of the speedtest sites said somethin about upload compression... i duno
-j
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aaronwt
Premium
join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA
·Verizon FIOS
1 edit | Well at least the tech last night seemed much more helpful than the tech from last week . He said that there was a software upgrade in my area to GigE for GPON. And the date he gave me did coincide with the week that my speed problems started.
So maybe they will be able to get things figured out since my speeds should not fluctuate like they are currently. | |
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jmn1207
Premium
join:2000-07-19
Reston, VA
·Verizon FIOS
| Re: 25/15 is 25/25?... said by aaronwt :He said that there was a software upgrade in my area to GigE for GPON. I wonder if this means that my ONT has been provisioned for 1000? Last I checked the LED indicated it was set at 100. Which is fine for the moment, since my Actiontec router is only capable of 10/100 WAN/LAN speeds (MoCA up to 175Mbps). | |
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nycdave
Premium,MVM
join:1999-11-16
Melville, NY | Re: 25/15 is 25/25?... No, no one is being provisioned for GigE speeds on a GPON ONT's WAN port.... | |
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jmn1207
Premium
join:2000-07-19
Reston, VA
·Verizon FIOS
| Re: 25/15 is 25/25?... said by nycdave :No, no one is being provisioned for GigE speeds on a GPON ONT's WAN port.... Rats! I was getting a bit excited about the August update.  | |
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aaronwt
Premium
join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA
·Verizon FIOS
| Re: 25/15 is 25/25?... said by jmn1207 :said by nycdave :No, no one is being provisioned for GigE speeds on a GPON ONT's WAN port.... Rats! I was getting a bit excited about the August update. Yes, the tech I talked to was referring to the optical connection, not the connection to my Actiontec. | |
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Natoma
join:1999-08-30
Brooklyn, NY
·Verizon FIOS
| i've been getting the same thing.
I changed my 50/20 FIOS package + Basic Phone Service (~$120/mo) to their 35/20 FIOS package + Unlimited Local + Long Distance Freedom Essentials Service (~$90/mo).
It seems that even though I purchased 35/20 a few weeks ago as part of the FIOS Double Play package, I'm actually receiving 35/35 as of today.
Here are the pics of my Speedtest.net tests:
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Vamp9190
join:2002-02-11
Chantilly, VA | 
This is at work. Wish I got it at home.
But I did upgrade my home FiOS to 25/15 from 20/5 (before that it was 15/2) and I am getting about 26/21, so good stuff. | |
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dumbfound
join:2008-07-10
Union, NJ | Hmmm... Anyone in the Union County area of NJ getting these results also? These bandwidth test makes me want to upgrade my 20/20 to 25/15. | |
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Theman2006
join:2003-05-06
Bronx, NY | Three Days later still getting the same speed. I hope they keep it up. I've been able to download from Usenet News groups at a steady 4700 KB/s.
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bigxl31
join:2001-11-01
Englishtown, NJ | is this upgrade for NJ as well??? | |
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rexbinary
Mod King
Premium
join:2005-01-26
Plano, TX | I upgraded to the 25/15 package. I called FiOS support to verify my provisioning was complete, and the rep on the phone told me he showed my upgrade to be 25/25. | |
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Theman2006
join:2003-05-06
Bronx, NY | Still getting insane speeds. Um riding this fluff all the way out lmao!!
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| jimboe
join:2000-08-14
New York
 ·Optimum Online
| Re: 25/15 is 25/25?... ..this is what I was talking about in the other thread..
While I'm happy for you (and others getting this "bonus"), I'm pissed that those of us on 50/20 are currently being "forgotten"/treated basically like shit.
We pay more than double you guys, get less on the downstream, and get far less on the upload.. typically 49-50/20-21.
It's bs. | |
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deblin
Dark Side of the Moon
Premium,MVM
join:2001-09-01
Middletown, DE
| Re: 25/15 is 25/25?... It's the same for 20/20 people. They are (most likely) paying more than the 25/15 plan, yet are getting 20/20 versus 25/25. Granted, it's a smaller difference in throughput, but it's the same situation.
It's a calculated risk to jump ship from the 50/20 to 35/20 plan, if upstream is your goal. Personally, given the large difference in speeds and the unknown for how long this "fluff" is going to last, I'd stay put with 50/20 and see what happens in August. 20/20 to 25/15 isn't a big difference (although I would definitely prefer 20/20), so I took the risk - and the fact that it was cheaper helped. 
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| | | Natoma
join:1999-08-30
Brooklyn, NY
·Verizon FIOS
| Re: 25/15 is 25/25?... said by deblin :It's the same for 20/20 people. They are (most likely) paying more than the 25/15 plan, yet are getting 20/20 versus 25/25. Granted, it's a smaller difference in throughput, but it's the same situation. It's a calculated risk to jump ship from the 50/20 to 35/20 plan, if upstream is your goal. Personally, given the large difference in speeds and the unknown for how long this "fluff" is going to last, I'd stay put with 50/20 and see what happens in August. 20/20 to 25/15 isn't a big difference (although I would definitely prefer 20/20), so I took the risk - and the fact that it was cheaper helped. The only reason I downgraded from 50/20 to 35/20 is because Verizon offered a double play package with Unlimited Local and Long Distance calling + Caller ID and Voicemail for $30 cheaper than what I was paying for 50/20 + Basic local service.
Considering I can barely saturate my 50mb download, it makes financial sense.
That said, I'd love them to upgrade the 35/20 tier officially to 50/35 or maybe even 50/50 with the new highest tier being something like 75/35.
That'd be nice. 
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RolteC
0h
join:2001-05-20
Fresh Meadows, NY
| said by Theman2006 :Still getting insane speeds. Um riding this fluff all the way out lmao!! You are the only person I know on a 50/20 line receiving 50/30 instead.
Strange you say your getting 4700KB/sec it should be a lot more then that.
Try a different speed test and post the results please from the following:
»myspeed.visualware.com/servers/hpn.html
»ndt.anl.gov/
And my favorite to get REAL top speeds, with a little error involved:
»www.myconnectiontest.net/captest/try.html | |
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| | jimboe
join:2000-08-14
New York
·Optimum Online
| Re: 25/15 is 25/25?... said by RolteC :said by Theman2006 :Still getting insane speeds. Um riding this fluff all the way out lmao!! You are the only person I know on a 50/20 line receiving 50/30 instead. ... I didn't think he was on 50/20.. | |
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tolive
join:2006-10-17
Silver Spring, MD
| I believe that Verizon is phasing out the 25/15. I ordered the FiOS triple play package /w 25/15 Internet last week, installation is scheduled on tomorrow, just got a call from Verizon confirming what I ordered, I was told that my Internet would be 25/25, not the 25/15 I ordered. | |
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nycdave
Premium,MVM
join:1999-11-16
Melville, NY | Re: 25/15 is 25/25?... No, you heard wrong. There is no 25/25 tier - you are being sold the 25/15 tier. | |
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