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manfmmd
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FAIL

You fail to realize that all of the text messages aren't making AT&T $.20 per message both ways in most cases. That only applies to phones without a texting plan...

The messaging rate of 65k per second likely also takes into account system message which the customer is not charged for.



edit to add:

Unlimited texting is $15.00 which at $.20 is 75 messages...I use well over 160-170 messages per month.. I'm sure most other people on the unlimited plan do likewise.. Do the math..
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ptrowski
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Did you notice where Karl said that it was theoretical, and yes they offer bundle plans?

You fail.


Matt
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Re: FAIL

said by manfmmd See Profile :

Unlimited texting is $15.00 which at $.20 is 75 messages...I use well over 160-170 messages per month.. I'm sure most other people on the unlimited plan do likewise.. Do the math..
Unfortunately, AT&T has done the math and I would wager that the unlimited plans are priced right in line where it's cheaper to buy said unlimited plan than to just pay per text. Don't forget, it used to be $.1 per txt, then was raised to $.5, then $.10 and now $.20. The price hikes are to encourage people who otherwise wouldn't have signed up for an unlimited plan to do so.


BF69

join:2004-07-28
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said by manfmmd See Profile :

You fail to realize that all of the text messages aren't making AT&T $.20 per message both ways in most cases. That only applies to phones without a texting plan...

The messaging rate of 65k per second likely also takes into account system message which the customer is not charged for.



edit to add:

Unlimited texting is $15.00 which at $.20 is 75 messages...I use well over 160-170 messages per month.. I'm sure most other people on the unlimited plan do likewise.. Do the math..
And you don't realize the cost of those 75 messages is well under a penny. TOTAL. The fact is that of that $15 at&t charges for unlimited texting at least $14 is profit. So if only 10 million customers have unlimited texting at&t is still making $1.68 BILLION a year off of them. And at&t has to charge $500 per GB overage on their data plans why? They can't upgrade their network so they don't have to have 5 GB caps, why?


BF69

join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

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Re: FAIL

said by Matt See Profile :

said by manfmmd See Profile :

Unlimited texting is $15.00 which at $.20 is 75 messages...I use well over 160-170 messages per month.. I'm sure most other people on the unlimited plan do likewise.. Do the math..
Unfortunately, AT&T has done the math and I would wager that the unlimited plans are priced right in line where it's cheaper to buy said unlimited plan than to just pay per text. Don't forget, it used to be $.1 per txt, then was raised to $.5, then $.10 and now $.20. The price hikes are to encourage people who otherwise wouldn't have signed up for an unlimited plan to do so.
except I don't ever text so I don't have a plan. So perhaps if they went to 1 cent per text I would actually text and thus they would actually make money.


mod_wastrel

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That's still a significant amount of profit without having any additional expenditure, which is the point after all--customers paying for a feature that costs the company nothing extra... and then doubling the rates.

Pass.


sousademiami

join:2003-02-04
Hialeah, FL

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OVER 20 BILLION $/year...in texts

Lets say it's 1 cent per message.

Do the math.
AT&T Text Message Revenue per year is:
.01*65,000*60*60*24*365 = $20,498,400,000
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battleop

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Re: FAIL

"The fact is that of that $15 at&t charges for unlimited texting at least $14 is profit."

If this a fact then it should not be to hard for you to cite your sources.

sven_kirk3

join:2002-07-23
Mableton, GA
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Re: OVER 20 BILLION $/year...in texts

WOW! They should be PAYING me because I am one of the ones that don't text EVERY second.


battleop

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reply to sousademiami
That's 65,000 per second on the DAY that Michael Jackson died, not every day.

.01*65,000*60*60*24=$56,160,000 Still a lot of money.

jester121
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Re: FAIL

Matt 0, Decimal arithmetic 4.

$.1 is the same as $.10 and both are less than $.5, as is $.2



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said by jester121 See Profile :

Matt 0, Decimal arithmetic 4.

$.1 is the same as $.10 and both are less than $.5, as is $.2


LOL, thanks for the correction. I did mean .01.


Jerm

join:2000-04-10
Richland, WA
reply to battleop
While I agree there are many ways too look at this, when you consider how small each text is and compare that to general data & voice traffic you realize texts ARE all profit.

Source: Any previous SMS gripe article here in BBR.


battleop

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I don't doubt that there is a lot of profit in text messages but there is no way that there is so much profit that they have pure profit on 14 out of 15 bucks.
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