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<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 02:27:33 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Grail Knight posted :   <blockquote><small>quote:</small><hr>Even the jury was to stupid to know constitutional law and the award they give to the crooked RIAA . <hr></blockquote><br><br>So the jury is made up of lawyers? <br><br>So the RIAA is crooked and the other side is innocent? <br>Ya okay.<br><br>Edit* Removed OT comment.<br><small>--<br>"Facts not FUD!"</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 18:32:05 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Jason Levine posted : Yes.  Unfortunately, they didn't even award the RIAA the maximum fine.  That would be $150,000 per song or (for the 24 songs Thomas was charged for) $3.6 million.  Of course, the smallest amount is $750 which would have come to $18,000.<br><br>Still, I think an appropriate fine level would be 10 times the market value of the song.  Digital downloads cost, on average, 99 cents each.  So Thomas' 24 songs would cost her $9.90 each, or $237.60.  I'm not going to hold my breath that copyright law will see more rational fines, though.<br><small>--<br>-Jason Levine<br><b>Support a children's charity. Buy a calendar and/or a photo book.</b> <A HREF="http://stores.lulu.com/shootingforacause">Shooting For A Cause</a></small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 09:04:29 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Corehhi posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/434956" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=434956');">BigMac777</a>:</small><br><br>The court will throw out this outrageous fine from some very ingnorant people that sat on this jury. Even the jury was to stupid to know constitutional law and the award they give to the crooked RIAA .  <br> </div>Maybe they weren't so stupid. Make the judgment so high that it is ridiculous then you know it will be shot down. <br><br>Some times things aren't what they seem. ]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 01:10:01 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/265762" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=265762');">Goober</a>:</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/434956" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=434956');">BigMac777</a>:</small><br><br>The court will throw out this outrageous fine from some very ingnorant people that sat on this jury. Even the jury was to stupid to know constitutional law and the award they give to the crooked RIAA .  <br> </div>Unfortunately, the same desciption seems to apply to you as well.  Read the judge's instructions and read the statute.  The jury were within their rights to award what they did.  If the judgement is eventually deemed unconstitutional, then there will have to be a change to the copyright statute.  The court nor the jury overstepped any boundaries.<br> </div>Is this the same judge who sued a dry cleaner for $65 millions for losing his pant? This is within his rights to sue as well.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 17:45:24 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Goober posted : I'm looking forward to this.  I think the penalty was severe as well and I'd like to see some carve outs in the statute.  <br><br>For now, though, the law is the law.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 17:22:47 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[PapaMidnight posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/265762" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=265762');">Goober</a>:</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/434956" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=434956');">BigMac777</a>:</small><br><br>The court will throw out this outrageous fine from some very ingnorant people that sat on this jury. Even the jury was to stupid to know constitutional law and the award they give to the crooked RIAA .  <br> </div>Unfortunately, the same desciption seems to apply to you as well.  Read the judge's instructions and read the statute.  The jury were within their rights to award what they did.  If the judgement is eventually deemed unconstitutional, then there will have to be a change to the copyright statute.  The court nor the jury overstepped any boundaries.<br> </div>Indeed. If her appeal is accepted, expect all eyes to be on this case because it would have extreme ramifications for all civil court cases and judgments made within them, both past, present, and future - that is, if retroactivity comes into play. If she wins, it could open the flood gates for a whole new set of appeals to occur, not that that is a bad thing. Reform of the judicial system is definitely needed. Of course, if she wins, expect an immediate appeal to a higher court.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 17:18:05 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Goober posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/434956" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=434956');">BigMac777</a>:</small><br><br>The court will throw out this outrageous fine from some very ingnorant people that sat on this jury. Even the jury was to stupid to know constitutional law and the award they give to the crooked RIAA .  <br> </div>Unfortunately, the same description seems to apply to you as well.  Read the judge's instructions and read the statute.  The jury were within their rights to award what they did.  If the judgement is eventually deemed unconstitutional, then there will have to be a change to the copyright statute.  The court nor the jury overstepped any boundaries.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:01:29 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[BigMac777 posted : The court will throw out this outrageous fine from some very ingnorant people that sat on this jury. Even the jury was to stupid to know constitutional law and the award they give to the crooked RIAA .  ]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 15:44:01 EDT</pubDate>
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