Big Dawg 23
join:2002-03-27
Northfield, MN
| reply to Phatty
Re: Can you see a difference: Charter HD Vs. AT&T U-Verse HD
Please let the rest of us know how you get a better deal than Directv. Unless you are one of the threat to drop unless on a promo. Currently I have the Priemer package on Directv with Two DVR's that hold 200 HRs of programming and pay $125. IF I do the same thing with Charter my bill is about $180. Not sure how you get a better deal. Even if I drop to compare they Choice Xtra to Charter Digtal basic it is still cheaper.
Like I said you must be on a non stop promo. Where I have been at regular price for a long time with them. |
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Big H
join:2006-05-24
Fort Worth, TX
| reply to mbkowns
To answer the original post - I currently have U-verse and was a former customer of Charter. The Charter HD was much better than U-Verse. When I first installed U-verse I kept Charter active and did a side by side test with two identical 52 inch LCD's. Charter's HD was much more crisp and there were not any artifacts. U-verse compresses the signal too much and thus there are artifacts, especially with fast moving scenes in sports. U-Verse has far more HD channels than Charter so that's why I am still with U-verse. If U-verse HD PQ does not improve soon I'll be switching back to Charter or DirecTV. |
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mbkowns
Got Bandwidth?
join:2003-07-01
Riverside, CA
| reply to MnR
Who cares about the money... Show me the picture. I have a 1080p tv and a 720p tv.
Crap verse hd looks so bad. You can see artifacts all over the place. Video is dirt bad. Many people barely understand what HD is all together and just get on the train thinking its all the same.
Dish had a crapy sat stand so the wind would move the dish and cause it to go out.
Direct tv has a tripod setup to better secure the dish from moving. Hasn't once gone out on me. Direct tv has 1080 VOD but you have to use your internet connection to download the movies. Not a big deal since watching 1080 over 720 hd content rocks!
No content service HD will ever rock a blueray. the VOD 1080 comes close but still can't be beat.
Its up to your eyes to decide.
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MnR
Premium
join:2002-05-27
Iron Mountain, MI
| reply to BF69
Hi BF69,
First off welcome bck for at least a visit. Magic Jack has not got our Area code here. with Vonage I would have to get a new router (Cost Factor).
Charter has been good up here as we still have the techs when charter bought Bresnan.
I got rid of AT&T and Sprint (Long distance) And with the money I saved by doing that I went with the Charter Bundle (Triple Play). the phone quality is far better than AT&T ever was.
As for the TV I don't need or want HD. I only upgraded to digial becuase I had to.
As for Metatron2008, Tv was NOT the reason I went with the bundle. It was for the phone service and the internet.
MnR
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| reply to MnR
said by MnR  :Hi metatron, Sounds to me like you live in an urban area and spend 99% of your time in front of your Wall to Wall TV... Try getting out of the house a little more and spending less and worrying less on what channels on your TV you are getting. Up here you have three choices for TV: OTA (Three channels),satellite (independent contractors most of them don't which is the front of the dish and where to point it) and Charter. For internet you have Charter,At&T,cell Phone(Alltel),Satellite ( which sucks) and of course Dialup. For Telephone you have Charter, AT&T, Cellphone (Alot of Dead Areas). So for us in the Upper Peninsula of michigan choices are very limited and also money. One more thing forget about vonage and Magic Jack, Not available... Lazy has nothing to do with it. What is avaiable and what works is what you have to work with. if you have internet from Charter you can use Vonage and/or MagicJack. Or any other VoIP out there.
Of topic but I'll be visiting relatives in Baraga in 2 weeks so I think I'll be passing by your area on the way up there. Been 30 years since I've been there. |
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BlakePaulson
join:2008-08-06
Alexandria, MN
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| reply to STLCompGuy
Since everyone has different needs and preferences I think the point is moot. I personally hate charter's tv and I'll try to steer anyone clear of it because of the way I was treated and because of the service offered. Since every charter network is different I'm sure some are great and some suck.
All I know is that I really like directv because of the service offered and the price. Charters Internet is great but a lot of people around the area have the same opinion about it's service when brought up in conversation (usually charter sucks) |
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Metatron2008
join:2008-09-02
Stockbridge, GA
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1 edit | reply to Metatron2008
For nearly the same price both have premium HD movie channels, only Charter has 5 and Directv has 15. For nearly the same price (10-20 more) Directv has 70+ national channels to charters 20 or below, depending on area.
Directv also has higher quality video and is one of the most dependable video services in the US. Dish? Not as good. Charter? If they install it right.
You can sproutr all the BS you want about 'different needs', at the end of the days those 'diffeent needs' end up being the same. Surprising huh? Because those 'different needs' are actually one need: Tv.
Unless you want to explain what that different need is huh? We talking tv, with receivers, dvrs, hd channels, they are all basically the same.
All services give pretty much the same channels, they are all tv. Directv only gives more of the channels and is better quality. So tell, what are these 'different needs'? |
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Metatron2008
join:2008-09-02
Stockbridge, GA
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| reply to Phatty
It's not about hd it's about getting the most for your money, how hard is that to understand?
And it IS lazyness. The topic isn't about different needs, the topic is about bundling versus getting more for not bundling. Don't try changing the subject around.
And nice accusations about me. FYI, I am a computer nerd, tv hardly means anything to me. But when I do watch tv I like to know that I am getting the most for my money. |
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Phatty
join:2000-05-10
Valley Park, MO
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| reply to Metatron2008
Metatron2008,
You keep talking about getting ripped off, and wasting money, and being lazy, but as I already mentioned that is just not the case. People have different needs and different priorities and as already stated I have never seen a better deal with DirectTV or Dish...(Oh and I don't bundle, I know the savings could be more if I did). Yes they have more HD channels, but in reality Charter is only shy of another 2 or 3 channels that I actually watch.. So 100 HD channels of crap is irrelevant to me because I only would care about 3 of those(in addition to what Charter already provides).
For you HD numbers is obviously a priority. So its understandable that you think your getting the better deal with DirectTV. I still love my HD, and hope Charter adds more soon, but I'm not willing to spend more, or put a dish on my house to just fill in the few channels I am missing an HD counterpart to.
Its not as black and white as you are trying to make it out to be. |
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MnR
Premium
join:2002-05-27
Iron Mountain, MI
1 edit | reply to Metatron2008
Hi metatron,
Sounds to me like you live in an urban area and spend 99% of your time in front of your Wall to Wall TV...
Try getting out of the house a little more and spending less and worrying less on what channels on your TV you are getting.
Up here you have three choices for TV: OTA (Three channels),satellite (independent contractors most of them don't which is the front of the dish and where to point it) and Charter.
For internet you have Charter,At&T,cell Phone(Alltel),Satellite ( which sucks) and of course Dialup.
For Telephone you have Charter, AT&T, Cellphone (Alot of Dead Areas).
So for us in the Upper Peninsula of michigan choices are very limited and also money.
One more thing forget about vonage and Magic Jack, Not available...
Lazy has nothing to do with it. What is avaiable and what works is what you have to work with.
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Metatron2008
join:2008-09-02
Stockbridge, GA
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1 edit | reply to Metatron2008
Seriously, are you gonna tell us that you love bundling SO MUCH that if you lived in an area where the only choice for tv was satellite, and internet was satellite or 20 mBit adsl2+, you bundle satellite internet and tv?
It's rediculous that you'd think you're saving money by spending more for 30 channels when you could have 100. The only thing you're saving is yourself from doing something that would save money.
We got into the 'bundling' mess with bellsouth before too, and we had 6 megs dsl, local and long distance, for $120! I pay less now for 20 mBit dsl, charter hd set top box, hd locals, all hd premium movie channels, and 2 vonage lines.
Your kidding yourself if you think your saving anything by bundling your sevices. Your simply being lazy. |
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Metatron2008
join:2008-09-02
Stockbridge, GA
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| reply to STLCompGuy
said by STLCompGuy :hey why not go all out and get 1 company for phone, 1 company for cell phone, 1 company for Internet, 1 company for TV, 1 company for HD TV......if you like so much paying different companies for different things....ha ha ha anyway, I had Charter for my TV/Internet and I switched to ATT Uverse and now have them for home phone/tv/Internet. I like them MUCH better than Charter. said by BlakePaulson :If you have more than 2 TV's (HD wise) then I'd recommend avoiding AT&T. I believe you can hook up as many HD DVR's with charter as you want and stream on demand but I think AT&T limits so many receivers or so many tv streams per household... In terms of Charter's DVR choices they suck... hope you enjoy a 160GB hard drive in an at least 5 year old box... there are new Moxi's floating around but not in my neck of the woods. I personally got sick of throwing away money with charter's TV service. Far too many 'channel unavailable please wait" outages (something at the headend would CONSTANTLY go out on a Friday afternoon and wouldn't get resolved until Tuesday of the next week...) Thunderstorms don't last that long so even the "satellite goes out in bad weather" crap doesn't fit the bill. My verdict... Love charter's internet... HATE (and I mean HATE) their TV service. I was also screwed out of $215 after calling and asking repeatedly if I could get my own cable box (prior to researching on the net and finding out you can't) and was told by two different reps that you could, after they asked their supervisor... so I definitely am bias towards any company that's CSR's cause me to lose so much damn money. Having one bill is nice but getting ripped off for the inconvenience of paying two bills every month instead of one is a little on the crazy side. If the different companies are better why wouldn't you?
If you shop at walmart all the time then next time I suppose if you need a tuxedo you'll buy a cheap pos from walmart? Because going to a better store would be tougher. |
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BlakePaulson
join:2008-08-06
Alexandria, MN
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| reply to STLCompGuy
said by STLCompGuy :hey why not go all out and get 1 company for phone, 1 company for cell phone, 1 company for Internet, 1 company for TV, 1 company for HD TV......if you like so much paying different companies for different things....ha ha ha anyway, I had Charter for my TV/Internet and I switched to ATT Uverse and now have them for home phone/tv/Internet. I like them MUCH better than Charter. Well here in MN I have my cell phone as my only phone service (paying for phone service in my home seems like another payment.) Since I have the iPhone I have to go with AT&T. AT&T doesn't provide any other service in my area. Charter provides tv phone internet however their tv service is lackluster and if something isn't good enogh then if you can get an alternative that offers more for less to me it makes sense to go with that company.
I mean I pay 2 credit cards off multiple times per month, Mortgage, DirecTV, AT&T, Charter, best buy card, dedicated server, electric bill, nat gas bill, sewer bill...
Yes it's a pain to have so many different services but spending 10 minutes per month all of them can get taken care of relatively easily and quickly. |
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STLCompGuy
join:2003-01-11
Chesterfield, MO
| reply to BlakePaulson
with Charter for $105/month I was getting:
My house has 2 HD tvs and I had:
1 HD DVR Box, 1 HD Box
HD Channels (not HD Ultra Channels)
all the movie channels...HBO,Cinemax,Showtime,Stars,etc.
High speed Internet: 10 down/1 up
the problem was this was a promo price and I never knew how long it would last, and every month the bill would be different. I was looking for 2 HD channels I could not get with Charter (NFL network and Big Ten Network) and a whole house DVR. Thats why I went with ATT U verse. |
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STLCompGuy
join:2003-01-11
Chesterfield, MO
| reply to BlakePaulson
hey why not go all out and get 1 company for phone, 1 company for cell phone, 1 company for Internet, 1 company for TV, 1 company for HD TV......if you like so much paying different companies for different things....ha ha ha
anyway, I had Charter for my TV/Internet and I switched to ATT Uverse and now have them for home phone/tv/Internet. I like them MUCH better than Charter.
said by BlakePaulson :If you have more than 2 TV's (HD wise) then I'd recommend avoiding AT&T. I believe you can hook up as many HD DVR's with charter as you want and stream on demand but I think AT&T limits so many receivers or so many tv streams per household... In terms of Charter's DVR choices they suck... hope you enjoy a 160GB hard drive in an at least 5 year old box... there are new Moxi's floating around but not in my neck of the woods. I personally got sick of throwing away money with charter's TV service. Far too many 'channel unavailable please wait" outages (something at the headend would CONSTANTLY go out on a Friday afternoon and wouldn't get resolved until Tuesday of the next week...) Thunderstorms don't last that long so even the "satellite goes out in bad weather" crap doesn't fit the bill. My verdict... Love charter's internet... HATE (and I mean HATE) their TV service. I was also screwed out of $215 after calling and asking repeatedly if I could get my own cable box (prior to researching on the net and finding out you can't) and was told by two different reps that you could, after they asked their supervisor... so I definitely am bias towards any company that's CSR's cause me to lose so much damn money. Having one bill is nice but getting ripped off for the inconvenience of paying two bills every month instead of one is a little on the crazy side. |
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BlakePaulson
join:2008-08-06
Alexandria, MN
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| reply to Metatron2008
Sometimes people get the idea that bundling is saving them so much money... I understand how it can seem that way but in most cases I look at it as "well we've already got you rolling on one service so we'll milk you for another.
Both Dish Network and DirecTV fight quite hard to get your business...
Here's what my DirecTV bill looks like:
PLUS HD DVR Monthly 75.99
HBO, STARZ!, and SHOWTIME Monthly 36.00
DIRECTV DVR Service $6.00/mo Included in Base Pkg 0.00
DIRECTV on DEMAND Tune to Ch. 1000 for more info 0.00
07/03 Leased Receiver 5.00
07/03 Leased Receiver 5.00
07/03 Primary Leased Receiver 5.00
Refer a Friend -10.00 Credit ($100 total over 10 months)
12 Month Redemption -16.00 Credit
DIRECTV.com Registration -5.00 Credit
HBO/STARZ/SHOW for 3 Mos -36.00 Credit
Primary Leased Receiver -5.00 Credit
Sales Tax 8.38
So for $63.37 I get a lot of TV and have 3 HD DVR's (one was free... I paid $199 each for the other two.)
When bundled and under promo with charter I had 3 boxes (one HD Box, one HD DVR, and one standard box with the ultimate package, hd tier and showtime/starz/hbo/cinemax/movie channel)
Price came out to $117.74 with taxes.
Without the promo: $133.46
Now if I add all the pay channels with DirecTV it gets me back to the $100 a month range, but I get more HD channels and more HD for the pay channels as well (starz has 7 HD channels.. I only got one HD channel for starz with charter.)
Also I got free installation and equipment with DirecTV (got a swm dish so I only need one wire going to every receiver and used the existing coax cable for all receivers (no need for new wiring.)
So there you have it... More HD Channels, On Demand, free HD DVR, 500GB storage in the dvr, new box (not a 5 year old at best Moto or SA or Moxi.) |
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Metatron2008
join:2008-09-02
Stockbridge, GA | reply to BlakePaulson
Now this guy speaks truth. I'd rather get the most for my money than have one bill because I want to be lazy. |
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BlakePaulson
join:2008-08-06
Alexandria, MN
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| reply to STLCompGuy
If you have more than 2 TV's (HD wise) then I'd recommend avoiding AT&T. I believe you can hook up as many HD DVR's with charter as you want and stream on demand but I think AT&T limits so many receivers or so many tv streams per household...
In terms of Charter's DVR choices they suck... hope you enjoy a 160GB hard drive in an at least 5 year old box... there are new Moxi's floating around but not in my neck of the woods.
I personally got sick of throwing away money with charter's TV service. Far too many 'channel unavailable please wait" outages (something at the headend would CONSTANTLY go out on a Friday afternoon and wouldn't get resolved until Tuesday of the next week...) Thunderstorms don't last that long so even the "satellite goes out in bad weather" crap doesn't fit the bill.
My verdict... Love charter's internet... HATE (and I mean HATE) their TV service. I was also screwed out of $215 after calling and asking repeatedly if I could get my own cable box (prior to researching on the net and finding out you can't) and was told by two different reps that you could, after they asked their supervisor... so I definitely am bias towards any company that's CSR's cause me to lose so much damn money.
Having one bill is nice but getting ripped off for the inconvenience of paying two bills every month instead of one is a little on the crazy side. |
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Metatron2008
join:2008-09-02
Stockbridge, GA
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| reply to goillini
said by goillini :said by Metatron2008 :This is a subject of HD, and you're talking about sd channels? You should read what people are talking about before talking. Yeah, last I checked I was the only one who's had both Charter and Uverse who's posted on this thread with their impressions of the HD quality and lineups on the two services. So how about you follow your own advice. What a bullshit reply. You only mentioned both services at the beginning, then kept going on about things not related to the discussion. |
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goillini
join:2006-04-26
Madison, WI
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| reply to Metatron2008
said by Metatron2008 :This is a subject of HD, and you're talking about sd channels? You should read what people are talking about before talking. Yeah, last I checked I was the only one who's had both Charter and Uverse who's posted on this thread with their impressions of the HD quality and lineups on the two services. So how about you follow your own advice. |
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