Can you see a difference: Charter HD Vs. AT&T U-Verse HD in Charter HSI/CATV

Can you see a difference: Charter HD Vs. AT&T U-Verse HD in Charter HSI/CATV http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r22647324 en Sat, 20 Mar 2010 03:52:16 EDT Sat, 20 Mar 2010 03:52:16 EDT Re: Can you see a difference: Charter HD Vs. AT&T U-Verse HD http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22805560 Big Dawg 23 : Please let the rest of us know how you get a better deal than Directv. Unless you are one of the threat to drop unless on a promo. Currently I have the Priemer package on Directv with Two DVR's that hold 200 HRs of programming and pay $125. IF I do the same thing with Charter my bill is about $180. Not sure how you get a better deal. Even if I drop to compare they Choice Xtra to Charter Digtal basic it is still cheaper.

Like I said you must be on a non stop promo. Where I have been at regular price for a long time with them.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22805560 Mon, 03 Aug 2009 05:51:21 EDT Re: Can you see a difference: Charter HD Vs. AT&T U-Verse HD http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22794971 Big H : To answer the original post - I currently have U-verse and was a former customer of Charter. The Charter HD was much better than U-Verse. When I first installed U-verse I kept Charter active and did a side by side test with two identical 52 inch LCD's. Charter's HD was much more crisp and there were not any artifacts. U-verse compresses the signal too much and thus there are artifacts, especially with fast moving scenes in sports. U-Verse has far more HD channels than Charter so that's why I am still with U-verse. If U-verse HD PQ does not improve soon I'll be switching back to Charter or DirecTV.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22794971 Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:52:50 EDT Re: Can you see a difference: Charter HD Vs. AT&T U-Verse HD http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22741816 mbkowns : Who cares about the money... Show me the picture. I have a 1080p tv and a 720p tv.

Crap verse hd looks so bad. You can see artifacts all over the place. Video is dirt bad. Many people barely understand what HD is all together and just get on the train thinking its all the same.

Dish had a crapy sat stand so the wind would move the dish and cause it to go out.

Direct tv has a tripod setup to better secure the dish from moving. Hasn't once gone out on me. Direct tv has 1080 VOD but you have to use your internet connection to download the movies. Not a big deal since watching 1080 over 720 hd content rocks!

No content service HD will ever rock a blueray. the VOD 1080 comes close but still can't be beat.

Its up to your eyes to decide.
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First off welcome bck for at least a visit. Magic Jack has not got our Area code here. with Vonage I would have to get a new router (Cost Factor).

Charter has been good up here as we still have the techs when charter bought Bresnan.

I got rid of AT&T and Sprint (Long distance) And with the money I saved by doing that I went with the Charter Bundle (Triple Play). the phone quality is far better than AT&T ever was.

As for the TV I don't need or want HD. I only upgraded to digial becuase I had to.

As for Metatron2008, Tv was NOT the reason I went with the bundle. It was for the phone service and the internet.

MnR
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said by MnR

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Hi metatron,

Sounds to me like you live in an urban area and spend 99% of your time in front of your Wall to Wall TV...

Try getting out of the house a little more and spending less and worrying less on what channels on your TV you are getting.

Up here you have three choices for TV: OTA (Three channels),satellite (independent contractors most of them don't which is the front of the dish and where to point it) and Charter.

For internet you have Charter,At&T,cell Phone(Alltel),Satellite ( which sucks) and of course Dialup.

For Telephone you have Charter, AT&T, Cellphone (Alot of Dead Areas).

So for us in the Upper Peninsula of michigan choices are very limited and also money.

One more thing forget about vonage and Magic Jack, Not available...

Lazy has nothing to do with it. What is avaiable and what works is what you have to work with.

if you have internet from Charter you can use Vonage and/or MagicJack. Or any other VoIP out there.

Of topic but I'll be visiting relatives in Baraga in 2 weeks so I think I'll be passing by your area on the way up there. Been 30 years since I've been there.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22686737 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 14:01:24 EDT Re: Can you see a difference: Charter HD Vs. AT&T U-Verse HD http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22685914 BlakePaulson : Since everyone has different needs and preferences I think the point is moot. I personally hate charter's tv and I'll try to steer anyone clear of it because of the way I was treated and because of the service offered. Since every charter network is different I'm sure some are great and some suck.

All I know is that I really like directv because of the service offered and the price. Charters Internet is great but a lot of people around the area have the same opinion about it's service when brought up in conversation (usually charter sucks)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22685914 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:11:49 EDT Re: Can you see a difference: Charter HD Vs. AT&T U-Verse HD http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22684214 Metatron2008 : For nearly the same price both have premium HD movie channels, only Charter has 5 and Directv has 15. For nearly the same price (10-20 more) Directv has 70+ national channels to charters 20 or below, depending on area.

Directv also has higher quality video and is one of the most dependable video services in the US. Dish? Not as good. Charter? If they install it right.

You can sproutr all the BS you want about 'different needs', at the end of the days those 'diffeent needs' end up being the same. Surprising huh? Because those 'different needs' are actually one need: Tv.

Unless you want to explain what that different need is huh? We talking tv, with receivers, dvrs, hd channels, they are all basically the same.

All services give pretty much the same channels, they are all tv. Directv only gives more of the channels and is better quality. So tell, what are these 'different needs'?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22684214 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 06:18:52 EDT Re: Can you see a difference: Charter HD Vs. AT&T U-Verse HD http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22684203 Metatron2008 : It's not about hd it's about getting the most for your money, how hard is that to understand?

And it IS lazyness. The topic isn't about different needs, the topic is about bundling versus getting more for not bundling. Don't try changing the subject around.

And nice accusations about me. FYI, I am a computer nerd, tv hardly means anything to me. But when I do watch tv I like to know that I am getting the most for my money.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22684203 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 06:09:05 EDT Re: Can you see a difference: Charter HD Vs. AT&T U-Verse HD http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22677942 Phatty : Metatron2008,

You keep talking about getting ripped off, and wasting money, and being lazy, but as I already mentioned that is just not the case. People have different needs and different priorities and as already stated I have never seen a better deal with DirectTV or Dish...(Oh and I don't bundle, I know the savings could be more if I did). Yes they have more HD channels, but in reality Charter is only shy of another 2 or 3 channels that I actually watch.. So 100 HD channels of crap is irrelevant to me because I only would care about 3 of those(in addition to what Charter already provides).

For you HD numbers is obviously a priority. So its understandable that you think your getting the better deal with DirectTV. I still love my HD, and hope Charter adds more soon, but I'm not willing to spend more, or put a dish on my house to just fill in the few channels I am missing an HD counterpart to.

Its not as black and white as you are trying to make it out to be.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22677942 Thu, 09 Jul 2009 07:58:13 EDT Re: Can you see a difference: Charter HD Vs. AT&T U-Verse HD http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22677834 MnR : Hi metatron,

Sounds to me like you live in an urban area and spend 99% of your time in front of your Wall to Wall TV...

Try getting out of the house a little more and spending less and worrying less on what channels on your TV you are getting.

Up here you have three choices for TV: OTA (Three channels),satellite (independent contractors most of them don't which is the front of the dish and where to point it) and Charter.

For internet you have Charter,At&T,cell Phone(Alltel),Satellite ( which sucks) and of course Dialup.

For Telephone you have Charter, AT&T, Cellphone (Alot of Dead Areas).

So for us in the Upper Peninsula of michigan choices are very limited and also money.

One more thing forget about vonage and Magic Jack, Not available...

Lazy has nothing to do with it. What is avaiable and what works is what you have to work with.
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It's rediculous that you'd think you're saving money by spending more for 30 channels when you could have 100. The only thing you're saving is yourself from doing something that would save money.

We got into the 'bundling' mess with bellsouth before too, and we had 6 megs dsl, local and long distance, for $120! I pay less now for 20 mBit dsl, charter hd set top box, hd locals, all hd premium movie channels, and 2 vonage lines.

Your kidding yourself if you think your saving anything by bundling your sevices. Your simply being lazy.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22671147 Wed, 08 Jul 2009 00:38:03 EDT Re: Can you see a difference: Charter HD Vs. AT&T U-Verse HD http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22671125 Metatron2008 :

said by STLCompGuy

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hey why not go all out and get 1 company for phone, 1 company for cell phone, 1 company for Internet, 1 company for TV, 1 company for HD TV......if you like so much paying different companies for different things....ha ha ha

anyway, I had Charter for my TV/Internet and I switched to ATT Uverse and now have them for home phone/tv/Internet. I like them MUCH better than Charter.

said by BlakePaulson

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If you have more than 2 TV's (HD wise) then I'd recommend avoiding AT&T. I believe you can hook up as many HD DVR's with charter as you want and stream on demand but I think AT&T limits so many receivers or so many tv streams per household...

In terms of Charter's DVR choices they suck... hope you enjoy a 160GB hard drive in an at least 5 year old box... there are new Moxi's floating around but not in my neck of the woods.

I personally got sick of throwing away money with charter's TV service. Far too many 'channel unavailable please wait" outages (something at the headend would CONSTANTLY go out on a Friday afternoon and wouldn't get resolved until Tuesday of the next week...) Thunderstorms don't last that long so even the "satellite goes out in bad weather" crap doesn't fit the bill.

My verdict... Love charter's internet... HATE (and I mean HATE) their TV service. I was also screwed out of $215 after calling and asking repeatedly if I could get my own cable box (prior to researching on the net and finding out you can't) and was told by two different reps that you could, after they asked their supervisor... so I definitely am bias towards any company that's CSR's cause me to lose so much damn money.

Having one bill is nice but getting ripped off for the inconvenience of paying two bills every month instead of one is a little on the crazy side.

If the different companies are better why wouldn't you?

If you shop at walmart all the time then next time I suppose if you need a tuxedo you'll buy a cheap pos from walmart? Because going to a better store would be tougher.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22671125 Wed, 08 Jul 2009 00:31:02 EDT Re: Can you see a difference: Charter HD Vs. AT&T U-Verse HD http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22671012 BlakePaulson :

said by STLCompGuy

Well here in MN I have my cell phone as my only phone service (paying for phone service in my home seems like another payment.) Since I have the iPhone I have to go with AT&T. AT&T doesn't provide any other service in my area. Charter provides tv phone internet however their tv service is lackluster and if something isn't good enogh then if you can get an alternative that offers more for less to me it makes sense to go with that company.

I mean I pay 2 credit cards off multiple times per month, Mortgage, DirecTV, AT&T, Charter, best buy card, dedicated server, electric bill, nat gas bill, sewer bill...

Yes it's a pain to have so many different services but spending 10 minutes per month all of them can get taken care of relatively easily and quickly.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22671012 Wed, 08 Jul 2009 00:02:07 EDT Re: Can you see a difference: Charter HD Vs. AT&T U-Verse HD http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22670976 STLCompGuy : with Charter for $105/month I was getting:

My house has 2 HD tvs and I had:

1 HD DVR Box, 1 HD Box
HD Channels (not HD Ultra Channels)
all the movie channels...HBO,Cinemax,Showtime,Stars,etc.

High speed Internet: 10 down/1 up

the problem was this was a promo price and I never knew how long it would last, and every month the bill would be different. I was looking for 2 HD channels I could not get with Charter (NFL network and Big Ten Network) and a whole house DVR. Thats why I went with ATT U verse. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22670976 Tue, 07 Jul 2009 23:50:32 EDT Re: Can you see a difference: Charter HD Vs. AT&T U-Verse HD http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22670948 STLCompGuy : hey why not go all out and get 1 company for phone, 1 company for cell phone, 1 company for Internet, 1 company for TV, 1 company for HD TV......if you like so much paying different companies for different things....ha ha ha

anyway, I had Charter for my TV/Internet and I switched to ATT Uverse and now have them for home phone/tv/Internet. I like them MUCH better than Charter.

said by BlakePaulson

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22670948 Tue, 07 Jul 2009 23:42:13 EDT Re: Can you see a difference: Charter HD Vs. AT&T U-Verse HD http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22666571 BlakePaulson : Sometimes people get the idea that bundling is saving them so much money... I understand how it can seem that way but in most cases I look at it as "well we've already got you rolling on one service so we'll milk you for another.

Both Dish Network and DirecTV fight quite hard to get your business...

Here's what my DirecTV bill looks like:

PLUS HD DVR Monthly 75.99
HBO, STARZ!, and SHOWTIME Monthly 36.00
DIRECTV DVR Service $6.00/mo Included in Base Pkg 0.00
DIRECTV on DEMAND Tune to Ch. 1000 for more info 0.00

07/03 Leased Receiver 5.00
07/03 Leased Receiver 5.00
07/03 Primary Leased Receiver 5.00

Refer a Friend -10.00 Credit ($100 total over 10 months)

12 Month Redemption -16.00 Credit

DIRECTV.com Registration -5.00 Credit

HBO/STARZ/SHOW for 3 Mos -36.00 Credit

Primary Leased Receiver -5.00 Credit

Sales Tax 8.38

So for $63.37 I get a lot of TV and have 3 HD DVR's (one was free... I paid $199 each for the other two.)

When bundled and under promo with charter I had 3 boxes (one HD Box, one HD DVR, and one standard box with the ultimate package, hd tier and showtime/starz/hbo/cinemax/movie channel)

Price came out to $117.74 with taxes.

Without the promo: $133.46

Now if I add all the pay channels with DirecTV it gets me back to the $100 a month range, but I get more HD channels and more HD for the pay channels as well (starz has 7 HD channels.. I only got one HD channel for starz with charter.)

Also I got free installation and equipment with DirecTV (got a swm dish so I only need one wire going to every receiver and used the existing coax cable for all receivers (no need for new wiring.)

So there you have it... More HD Channels, On Demand, free HD DVR, 500GB storage in the dvr, new box (not a 5 year old at best Moto or SA or Moxi.)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22666571 Tue, 07 Jul 2009 11:04:03 EDT Re: Can you see a difference: Charter HD Vs. AT&T U-Verse HD http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22665512 Metatron2008 : Now this guy speaks truth. I'd rather get the most for my money than have one bill because I want to be lazy.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22665512 Tue, 07 Jul 2009 05:01:22 EDT Re: Can you see a difference: Charter HD Vs. AT&T U-Verse HD http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22665439 BlakePaulson : If you have more than 2 TV's (HD wise) then I'd recommend avoiding AT&T. I believe you can hook up as many HD DVR's with charter as you want and stream on demand but I think AT&T limits so many receivers or so many tv streams per household...

In terms of Charter's DVR choices they suck... hope you enjoy a 160GB hard drive in an at least 5 year old box... there are new Moxi's floating around but not in my neck of the woods.

I personally got sick of throwing away money with charter's TV service. Far too many 'channel unavailable please wait" outages (something at the headend would CONSTANTLY go out on a Friday afternoon and wouldn't get resolved until Tuesday of the next week...) Thunderstorms don't last that long so even the "satellite goes out in bad weather" crap doesn't fit the bill.

My verdict... Love charter's internet... HATE (and I mean HATE) their TV service. I was also screwed out of $215 after calling and asking repeatedly if I could get my own cable box (prior to researching on the net and finding out you can't) and was told by two different reps that you could, after they asked their supervisor... so I definitely am bias towards any company that's CSR's cause me to lose so much damn money.

Having one bill is nice but getting ripped off for the inconvenience of paying two bills every month instead of one is a little on the crazy side.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22665439 Tue, 07 Jul 2009 03:26:07 EDT Re: Can you see a difference: Charter HD Vs. AT&T U-Verse HD http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22665139 Metatron2008 :

said by goillini

said by Metatron2008

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This is a subject of HD, and you're talking about sd channels?

You should read what people are talking about before talking.

What a bullshit reply. You only mentioned both services at the beginning, then kept going on about things not related to the discussion.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22665139 Tue, 07 Jul 2009 00:49:15 EDT Re: Can you see a difference: Charter HD Vs. AT&T U-Verse HD http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22664475 goillini :

said by Metatron2008

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This is a subject of HD, and you're talking about sd channels?

You should read what people are talking about before talking.

Yeah, last I checked I was the only one who's had both Charter and Uverse who's posted on this thread with their impressions of the HD quality and lineups on the two services. So how about you follow your own advice.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22664475 Mon, 06 Jul 2009 22:25:33 EDT Re: Can you see a difference: Charter HD Vs. AT&T U-Verse HD http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22664437 goillini :

said by BF69

said by goillini

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Expanded basic typically offers about 70 of the most popular cable channels to any cable-ready TV, with no need for a box.

I'm sorry if trying to write concisely disqualifies me from arguing your half-baked points. If you had bothered to click on the link to my review of Charter under my member name, I think it'd be fairly obvious to anyone with half a brain that I'm not a stealth Charter employee, but hey, maybe I'm giving you to much credit, BF.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22664437 Mon, 06 Jul 2009 22:19:05 EDT Re: Can you see a difference: Charter HD Vs. AT&T U-Verse HD http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22664431 Metatron2008 :

said by goillini

said by BF69

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If you want HD or digital in all the rooms you'll need a box for each TV and Charter charges $5 per box so that's the same in my book. If you just need basic you could just do OTA in the other rooms

Expanded basic typically offers about 70 of the most popular cable channels to any cable-ready TV, with no need for a box. So, for most people, they don't need or want a cable box in every room, and expanded basic offers many more channels than OTA. But I'm guessing you already know that, it just doesn't fit the point you want to make. Sorry to muddle things up with facts.

Cable's analog lineup is one of the only competitive advantages cable has over satellite and IPTV services like Uverse, even if you don't care to acknowledge it.

This is a subject of HD, and you're talking about sd channels?

You should read what people are talking about before talking.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22664431 Mon, 06 Jul 2009 22:18:03 EDT Re: Can you see a difference: Charter HD Vs. AT&T U-Verse HD http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22664418 Metatron2008 :

said by goillini

said by BF69

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Actually Directv pakages are CHEAPER than Charter and you get more channels.

If you only have 1 or 2 TVs in your house, then yes, DirecTV will probably be cheaper than Charter. More than 2 TVs, however, and it's not so clear, as DirecTV charges $5/receiver/month for additional receivers. My parents and my in-laws both have 5 TVs at their houses. They'd be paying DirecTV an additional $20/month for receivers where they currently pay nothing for analog expanded basic service.

To answer the original question, I've had both Charter HD and Uverse HD. I like the HD picture on Charter better -- the picture on Uverse was very dark, so anything with dimly lit scenes was very hard to watch. I've since found out there was some sort of buried setting we could have tweaked on the Uverse receiver that may have fixed the issue, but my wife hated Uverse (the DVR was terrible ... crashed, wasn't user-friendly, lacked basic functionality/features), so we switched back to Charter and got an HD Tivo. I liked the HD lineup on Uverse a lot better though. Charter's HD lineup is pathetic.

Charter also charges $5 a receiver if you get HD, And charter charges an extra $15 for each dvr.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22664418 Mon, 06 Jul 2009 22:17:00 EDT Re: Can you see a difference: Charter HD Vs. AT&T U-Verse HD http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22664406 goillini :

said by BF69

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If you want to talk about muddling facts. How about you bringing up the extra boxes for DirecTv then saying you won't need them for Charter. Which is UNTRUE if you're comparing apples to apples, but you don't. You're comparing apples and oranges to make the "facts" fit YOUR point of view. So pot meet kettle.

What part of this is confusing to you? With Charter, you can get approximately 70 channels on any TV in your house without a box. There is no comparable service from DirecTV -- that was my point. There is no apples-to-apples comparison. Charter offers an analog cable-ready service that some people with lots of TVs like. DirecTV does not offer this service. Is it a reason to pick Charter over DirecTV? It depends on how your household uses TV. As I said in my original post, if you only have a couple TVs, DirecTV is probably a better deal. Especially if you want HD, as DirecTV has way more HD channels than Charter.

said by BF69

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As far as the 70 channels? ... [rambling] So that's 65 not 70.

Oh, 65 instead of "about 70," like I said. Those 5 channels totally change the game. Just go ahead and disregard my previous post.

said by BF69

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Over the past 2 years Charter has taken at least 5 channels from expanded basic to digital tier. Disney XD, G4, GSN, SoapNet, WE all used to be on analog expanded basic. Not are on digital. To think this won't continue is foolish. If you get a notice saying Charter is adding several HD channels you can be damned sure some analog channels are going to the digital tier.

Hmm. I got a note in the mail today announcing 4 new HD channels here in Madison, WI, but no notice that channels were moving to digital basic. There is indeed a trend toward moving channels to the digital tier, and some systems like Comcast Chicago have eliminated analog expanded basic altogether. That said, it's not yet clear whether other cable operators like Charter will get rid of analog expanded basic in the immediate future. There are other ways to make room for larger HD lineups and faster Internet speeds using SDV and DOCSIS 3.0, which would preserve at least some of the analog line-up. I think the smarter cable operators will hold off on eliminating analog expanded basic for now, though I won't be surprised if it continues to slowly shrink. Even if it was to shrink by a third, it would still be a very useful service to many people.

said by BF69

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From your post these others rooms are basically guest rooms not used often. If they were you'd have boxes in them. like your guests can't "put up with" OTA for a night or 2. Do they pay your bill?

If you read the post, it was my parents and my in-laws. I "only" have 2 TVs, and a TV tuner card on my computer. My parents have a TV in the living room, family room, guest room, master bedroom and my sister's bedroom. The only one not used on a daily basis is the one in the guest room. Same goes for my in-laws, who have one in the living room, family room, kitchen, office, bedroom and the basement where they have exercise equipment (I forgot -- they have one more in the master bath so my father-in-law can have HLN on in the morning, so that's 7 TVs. Yeah, it's a little rediculous, but whatever, it's his house.). They're happy with having a cable box for one TV and expanded basic on all other sets. My point is that just as there are lots of folks for whom DirecTV's super-sweet HD lineup will be the deciding factor, there are other folks who enjoy having cable TV in multiple rooms in their house and may not want to pay $5/month/room for the priviledge.

said by BF69

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What's your excuse going to be when in a couple of years Charter is all digital?

I'm no fan of Charter's. I think I slam on them as much as the next guy. I wish we had a better cable company here, and that I didn't have too many trees to get DirecTV. Just because I disagree with you doesn't mean I'm a Charter fanboy.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22664406 Mon, 06 Jul 2009 22:14:25 EDT Re: Can you see a difference: Charter HD Vs. AT&T U-Verse HD http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22664245 BF69 :

said by goillini

said by BF69

I'm not sure why you want to be a jerk about things. If you want to talk about muddling facts. How about you bringing up the extra boxes for DirecTv then saying you won't need them for Charter. Which is UNTRUE if you're comparing apples to apples, but you don't. You're comparing apples and oranges to make the "facts" fit YOUR point of view. So pot meet kettle.

As far as the 70 channels? Yeah well let's see, expanded basic form me goes from 2-71. Ok that's 70. Well except 8 and 16 don't exist. Ch 8 used to have a FoX station but they removed it a few months back( thanks Charter ). Good thing I can get it OTA. So that's 68. Ch 3 has local real estate ads. I'm not counting that. 19 and 22 have Charter previews for PPV which if you only have basic or expanded basic is kind of pointless. They don't count either. So that's 65 not 70. Over the past 2 years Charter has taken at least 5 channels from expanded basic to digital tier. Disney XD, G4, GSN, SoapNet, WE all used to be on analog expanded basic. Not are on digital. To think this won't continue is foolish. If you get a notice saying Charter is adding several HD channels you can be damned sure some analog channels are going to the digital tier.

From your post these others rooms are basically guest rooms not used often. If they were you'd have boxes in them. like your guests can't "put up with" OTA for a night or 2. Do they pay your bill?

What's your excuse going to be when in a couple of years Charter is all digital?

said by goillini

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Expanded basic typically offers about 70 of the most popular cable channels to any cable-ready TV, with no need for a box.

You know how much that sounds likes something a salesperson would say or what you'd hear on a commerical? Seems like we've got ourselves a Charter employee posting here as "regular" person people. Me thinks you've memorized the script bit too much.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22664245 Mon, 06 Jul 2009 21:44:27 EDT Re: Can you see a difference: Charter HD Vs. AT&T U-Verse HD http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22663743 goillini :

said by BF69

said by goillini

said by BF69

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Actually Directv pakages are CHEAPER than Charter and you get more channels.

If you want HD or digital in all the rooms you'll need a box for each TV and Charter charges $5 per box so that's the same in my book. If you just need basic you could just do OTA in the other rooms]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22663138 Mon, 06 Jul 2009 18:36:28 EDT Re: Can you see a difference: Charter HD Vs. AT&T U-Verse HD http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22662092 goillini :

said by BF69

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Actually Directv pakages are CHEAPER than Charter and you get more channels.

said by BF69

said by Metatron2008

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Directv packages are usually more expensive then Charter, but Directv also has hundreds more hd channels. You get alot more for your money.

You forgot to add that if you add an HD HVR to the Charter package, the price goes up to $90.

Add an HD DVR to the Directv price and it only goes to $76. Which I think is a pretty decent value.
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said by BF69

said by matt314159

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I think DirecTV and Dish are probably just about neck and neck for HD at the present moment, though I would lean towards DirecTV more if you're a sports fan.

Tons of 24/7 RSNs. I don't totally count them as channels, but damned if they don't help when I get MLB EI!

I personally hate Dish. Really, it's the fact that Charlie gets rid of channels to add them. Didn't they get rid of Smithsonian recently? And lets not start with Voom.

Yeah, I gotta wait until early next year for more premium movie channels, but at least I won't be afraid that a fav channel of mine will disappear for a new one.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22659608 Mon, 06 Jul 2009 05:16:58 EDT Re: Can you see a difference: Charter HD Vs. AT&T U-Verse HD http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22659578 BF69 :

said by matt314159

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I think DirecTV and Dish are probably just about neck and neck for HD at the present moment, though I would lean towards DirecTV more if you're a sports fan.

Other than Sunday Ticket what does DirecTv has that Dish doesn't? Also Dish has a HD only package. Their Turbo HD Gold package is $50 a month plus $5 for locals for a total of $55 a month. Both DirecTv and Charter could both learn from Dish in offering HD only packages. Especially DirecTv since they have more HD than Charter. Seriously if I have a HDTV and a HD version of a channel why would I want the SD version?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22659578 Mon, 06 Jul 2009 04:37:41 EDT Re: Can you see a difference: Charter HD Vs. AT&T U-Verse HD http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22659336 matt314159 : I agree with the premise that Sat providers beat the crap out of charter for HD. I'm personally w/ dish but I'm not especially loyal. I paid $99 for my install just so I wouldn't be locked into a Dish contract.

My grandpa has charter HD + the HD ultra view, and it leaves him with like 20 HD channels + HD locals. WIth Dish, I'd say we get at LEAST double, probably more like triple, that number of channels. It seems like every channel has an HD equivalent. I think DirecTV and Dish are probably just about neck and neck for HD at the present moment, though I would lean towards DirecTV more if you're a sports fan.

The idea that satellite goes out every time it rains is pretty much a myth. The technical term is called rain fade, and with our Dish, which we've had for about a year now, we don't see a loss of signal unless it's a really heavy downpour, and even then it only lasts for the worst of the worst part of the storm then comes back. Part of it has to do w/ how good your dish is aimed. Say you need a minimum of 30% signal strength to watch TV. If they aim your dish so that you have 99% signal strength, and you get a really good rain, let's say your signal drops by 50%. That leaves you 49% signal to work with still. But if your installer only peaked you to 75% strength, and it drops by 50 percentage points, then you're sunk.

I think we've lost signal twice in the last year that I can recall. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22659336 Mon, 06 Jul 2009 01:04:46 EDT Re: Can you see a difference: Charter HD Vs. AT&T U-Verse HD http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22658468 BF69 :

said by Metatron2008

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Directv packages are usually more expensive then Charter, but Directv also has hundreds more hd channels. You get alot more for your money.

Actually Directv pakages are CHEAPER than Charter and you get more channels.

Their 200 channel package is $61 a month. If you add HD it's $71

Chater's digtial package is $65 a month. If you add HD( but not HD Ultra ) it's $70. For $1 more you get a A LOT more SD and HD channels.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22658468 Sun, 05 Jul 2009 20:41:01 EDT Re: Can you see a difference: Charter HD Vs. AT&T U-Verse HD http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22658360 Metatron2008 :

said by Phatty

said by Metatron2008

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If your going to go with Charter for hd as well as internet, or at&t internet as wel as tv, you may as well send me that extra money.

I didn't mean cheaper as in packages ... Cheaper for what you GET in the packages.

Directv packages are usually more expensive then Charter, but Directv also has hundreds more hd channels. You get alot more for your money.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22658360 Sun, 05 Jul 2009 20:08:46 EDT Re: Can you see a difference: Charter HD Vs. AT&T U-Verse HD http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22657978 STLCompGuy : I understand...I used to have Charter for my cable (HD) and Internet and than I got sick of Charter not giving me options for a "whole house DVR" and not being able to get 2 channels I love (NFL Network and Big Ten Network). I was getting actually an awesome price with Charter for what I was getting: cable HD, all the movie channels, DVR, and 10 meg Internet....all for $105/month.

said by Phatty

said by Metatron2008

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If your going to go with Charter for hd as well as internet, or at&t internet as wel as tv, you may as well send me that extra money.

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22657978 Sun, 05 Jul 2009 18:00:34 EDT Re: Can you see a difference: Charter HD Vs. AT&T U-Verse HD http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22657965 STLCompGuy : actually I had Charter for cable(hd) and Internet and ATT landline for home phone (because a cell phone does not work really well in my place) and Sprint for my cell phone. I switched to ATT Uverse and now I am getting cable (HD) and Internet and VOIP home phone through 1 provider....AT&T U Verse

said by Metatron2008

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Direcv uses a better method then Dish, which is more resilent to weather. It still goes out in really bad storms, but not in clouds, or rain, just in extreme heavy rain or heavy snow.

And personally, I'd rather be paying for good service instead of just wasting money.

If your going to go with Charter for hd as well as internet, or at&t internet as wel as tv, you may as well send me that extra money.

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22657965 Sun, 05 Jul 2009 17:55:41 EDT Re: Can you see a difference: Charter HD Vs. AT&T U-Verse HD http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22657684 Phatty :

said by Metatron2008

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If your going to go with Charter for hd as well as internet, or at&t internet as wel as tv, you may as well send me that extra money.

Thats a very generic assumption you have that DirectTV is somehow magically loads cheaper than any of the alternatives... Everytime I look into Dish or DirectTV I can never get an offer that beats anything I pay at Charter.... It all depends on what services you have, and what channels you need on who has the better buy. Now if I wanted Multiple DVRs I do know that is something that Charter basically tries to discourage based on how much they charge for each DVR box you desire. But for my needs, nobody beats Charters pricing.

And for the Ops original question I have yet to see the two side by side... I have a feeling that Charters HD probably is going to be a higher bit rate than AT&T only based on the fact that AT&T is squeezing everything in such a little pipe. But this is just a guess, and I would bet that the majority of people couldn't tell a difference between any provider.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22657684 Sun, 05 Jul 2009 16:34:12 EDT Re: Can you see a difference: Charter HD Vs. AT&T U-Verse HD http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22657365 Metatron2008 : Direcv uses a better method then Dish, which is more resilent to weather. It still goes out in really bad storms, but not in clouds, or rain, just in extreme heavy rain or heavy snow.

And personally, I'd rather be paying for good service instead of just wasting money.

If your going to go with Charter for hd as well as internet, or at&t internet as wel as tv, you may as well send me that extra money.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22657365 Sun, 05 Jul 2009 14:59:02 EDT Re: Can you see a difference: Charter HD Vs. AT&T U-Verse HD http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22656573 STLCompGuy : I live in a condo....DirecTV is a haste to install. I also heard that with satelite the signal is bad during storms or when there is no direct view to the sky....clouds, etc.

having multiple companies drives me insane:-) I want 1 bill for everything.

said by Metatron2008

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Depends on the area. Personally I'd get Directv.

I notice in another topic you said it seems like a big hassle...

I have Cable Internet with Charter, Satellite tv with Directv, phone with Vonage, and 3g internet/cell phones with At&t. I have Directv, At&t, and Vonage set to automatically withdrawl, and I pay charter every month manually (Like you I don't trust charter enough to set up auto withdrawls). It works just fine.

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22656573 Sun, 05 Jul 2009 10:36:44 EDT Re: Can you see a difference: Charter HD Vs. AT&T U-Verse HD http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22655418 Metatron2008 : Depends on the area. Personally I'd get Directv.

I notice in another topic you said it seems like a big hassle...

I have Cable Internet with Charter, Satellite tv with Directv, phone with Vonage, and 3g internet/cell phones with At&t. I have Directv, At&t, and Vonage set to automatically withdrawl, and I pay charter every month manually (Like you I don't trust charter enough to set up auto withdrawls). It works just fine.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22655418 Sat, 04 Jul 2009 22:13:39 EDT Can you see a difference: Charter HD Vs. AT&T U-Verse HD http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22647324 STLCompGuy : I currently have one of the older types of Magavox HD T.V.s thats not really a flat screen but is HD/Wide screen. I was wondering if you can tell any difference in the quality of HD when you have Charter HD and AT&T Uverse HD. I am using standard component cables.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22647324 Thu, 02 Jul 2009 21:03:46 EDT