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| Lakers get the Cherry on Top: Artest! Lol Lakers took Artest away from Lebron. Essentially swapping Ariza for Artest. At a pretty cheap deal too 3yr 18mil.
Now Kobe won't have to guard any high scoring small forwards Lebron, Carmelo etc.
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  The Dv8or DSLReports Forums -- The Mouse House 2.0 Premium join:2001-08-09 Danbury, CT clubs: | Re: Lakers get the Cherry on Top: Artest! I cant wait for Artest's first tantrum. Those fit right in LA. -- You're so vain... I bet you think this post is about you. | |
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| Re: Lakers get the Cherry on Top: Artest! said by The Dv8or :I cant wait for Artest's first tantrum. Those fit right in LA. AS well as Kobe getting his without Shaq | |
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3 edits | Re: Lakers get the Cherry on Top: Artest! said by The Dv8or :Only 5 years after Shaq got his without Kobe. And Shaq didnt have to ride the Kevin Garnett injury tide. and Shaq had to wait 8 years to get his first and that first was with kobe... and Shaq had to ride Dwades 35 average in the NBA finals... highest since a guy named Michael Jordan... heard he was pretty good
ESPN has dwade as the best finals performance ever
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2 edits | Re: Lakers get the Cherry on Top: Artest! Seeing how Kobe commands the double team 80% more than Pau does and also does take more shots than pau... Kobe actually gets tripled teamed and even more... but I guess 43% shooting with double sometimes triple team sucks... I guess no matter what people will hate... "Kobe can't get it done without Shaq" just did and did it quite easy... and now "kobe shoots a horrible 43%" LMAO! he makes almost half his shots and he gets harassed LOL
gaurentee most those top players get open looks something Kobe does not get... actually MJ's great performances in the past like late 90s when he won he shot UNDER 43%... I guess Michael Jordan sucks now too -- "I done wrassled with an alligator, I done tussled with a whale, only Last week I murdered a rock, Injured a stone, hospitalized a brick, I'm so mean I make medicine sick!!"-Ali | |
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2 edits | Re: Lakers get the Cherry on Top: Artest! I just said the greatest ever averaged less than a "horrible" 43% in a couple of his great championship runs... also can't say anything to the fact that it took shaq 8 years to get his ring and he had to get it with kobe... and when he got his without Kobe dwade averaged an amazing 35 points a game and ESPN actually rates dwades performance as the best in NBA history -- "I done wrassled with an alligator, I done tussled with a whale, only Last week I murdered a rock, Injured a stone, hospitalized a brick, I'm so mean I make medicine sick!!"-Ali | |
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1 edit | Re: Lakers get the Cherry on Top: Artest! said by Eagles LoveR : I just said the greatest ever averaged less than a "horrible" 43% in a couple of his great championship runs... also can't say anything to the fact that it took shaq 8 years to get his ring and he had to get it with kobe... and when he got his with Kobe dwade averaged an amazing 35 points a game and ESPN actually rates dwades performance as the best in NBA history A kobe hater will be always a Kobe hater no matter what. Now that Kobe won without Shaq, those haters will come up with something...today is the 43 percent day.
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2 edits | Re: Lakers get the Cherry on Top: Artest! said by zaldy :said by Eagles LoveR : I just said the greatest ever averaged less than a "horrible" 43% in a couple of his great championship runs... also can't say anything to the fact that it took shaq 8 years to get his ring and he had to get it with kobe... and when he got his with Kobe dwade averaged an amazing 35 points a game and ESPN actually rates dwades performance as the best in NBA history A kobe hater will be always a Kobe hater no matter what. Now that Kobe won without Shaq, those haters will come up with something...today is the 43 percent day. Back to topic, I hope the Lakers can still keep Trevor. They won't... Trevor signed with the Rockets... like a little trade... Ron Artest for Ariza
and you are correct... it's quite annoying that people love to hate so much they say 43% is a bad percentage when The Great Michael Jordan shot 42.7% in the 1998 playoffs... I Guess MJ isn't really great according to some people around these forums -- "I done wrassled with an alligator, I done tussled with a whale, only Last week I murdered a rock, Injured a stone, hospitalized a brick, I'm so mean I make medicine sick!!"-Ali | |
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1 edit | said by zaldy :said by Eagles LoveR :I just said the greatest ever averaged less than a "horrible" 43% in a couple of his great championship runs... also can't say anything to the fact that it took shaq 8 years to get his ring and he had to get it with kobe... and when he got his with Kobe dwade averaged an amazing 35 points a game and ESPN actually rates dwades performance as the best in NBA history A kobe hater will be always a Kobe hater no matter what. What is your point?
Well unless your like some on this board that love him when he is winning, and when he is only winning .500 they are riding some other player. -- Graphic Disorder | |
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| Re: Lakers get the Cherry on Top: Artest! Ah yes, I only like Kobe when he is winning when I hated when they won all those championships back from 2000-2003 seeing how they beat someone I like more than Kobe in AI... then after Shaq left I was a Kobe fan even during the rough years but apparently I wasn't? even though there are threads of me sticking up for kobe while you bashed him... now the real thing is you went and stuck up for Steve Nash when he was nasty with the Suns now it's Lebron James... -- "I done wrassled with an alligator, I done tussled with a whale, only Last week I murdered a rock, Injured a stone, hospitalized a brick, I'm so mean I make medicine sick!!"-Ali | |
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| said by Chillin :said by zaldy :said by Eagles LoveR :I just said the greatest ever averaged less than a "horrible" 43% in a couple of his great championship runs... also can't say anything to the fact that it took shaq 8 years to get his ring and he had to get it with kobe... and when he got his with Kobe dwade averaged an amazing 35 points a game and ESPN actually rates dwades performance as the best in NBA history A kobe hater will be always a Kobe hater no matter what. What is your point? Well unless your like some on this board that love him when he is winning, and when he is only winning .500 they are riding some other player. I've been a Kobe fan after MJ retired for the 2nd time...I think that was back in 98. Also a 43 percent FG isn't horrible in my opinion...I think it is very good considering majority of those shots were tough shots. Those aren't point blank range...which a good center always do. Try to compare Kobe's FG with the same position and you can see 43 is very good. | |
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| Re: Lakers get the Cherry on Top: Artest! said by zaldy :I've been a Kobe fan after MJ retired for the 2nd time...I think that was back in 98. Also a 43 percent FG isn't horrible in my opinion...I think it is very good considering majority of those shots were tough shots. Those aren't point blank range...which a good center always do. Try to compare Kobe's FG with the same position and you can see 43 is very good. FYI your quoting something that a MOD edited. I wasn't suggesting you were not a Kobe fan from the begining. There are people here that are riding his train this year that were not just a year or two ago though. Its a funny thing.
I never commented on Kobe's FG %. But I can say its not as good as Jordans. Just another stat to look at. Dont try to tell us Jordan didn't have to hit tough shots. Alot of the ways Kobe is guarded today came from what teams learned guarding MJ. -- Graphic Disorder | |
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| Re: Lakers get the Cherry on Top: Artest! said by Loco :I liked Michael Jordan back then.....& still do, but Kobe is badass, meng. Kobe is also the best player in the game today. Okay, people who think that talking like Tony Montana is cool are automatically disqualified from this thread. -- You're so vain... I bet you think this post is about you. | |
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1 edit | said by Chillin :said by zaldy :I've been a Kobe fan after MJ retired for the 2nd time...I think that was back in 98. Also a 43 percent FG isn't horrible in my opinion...I think it is very good considering majority of those shots were tough shots. Those aren't point blank range...which a good center always do. Try to compare Kobe's FG with the same position and you can see 43 is very good. FYI your quoting something that a MOD edited. I wasn't suggesting you were not a Kobe fan from the begining. There are people here that are riding his train this year that were not just a year or two ago though. Its a funny thing. I never commented on Kobe's FG %. But I can say its not as good as Jordans. Just another stat to look at. Dont try to tell us Jordan didn't have to hit tough shots. Alot of the ways Kobe is guarded today came from what teams learned guarding MJ. All I'm saying is 43% is not a bad percentage...its actually every good considering all the facts. I also never mentioned Jordan isn't hitting tough shots...I never compared Kobe to Jordan because Kobe came into the league when Jordan is about to go out. Jordan played the NBA in the 80's and 90's while Kobe in 90's and 00's. Not fair to compare. | |
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| Re: Lakers get the Cherry on Top: Artest! I compared the 2... MJ shot 42.7% in the 98 playoffs while Kobe shot 43% this playoff... People are saying that Kobes shooting percentage stinks so then the great one isn't that much better -- "I done wrassled with an alligator, I done tussled with a whale, only Last week I murdered a rock, Injured a stone, hospitalized a brick, I'm so mean I make medicine sick!!"-Ali | |
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| Artest has mellowed out alot. He's gives a great interview tho. Some of those in the last playoffs were all-time funny.
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  pro7070 BJ "The Prodigy" Penn Premium join:2002-06-28 Inman, SC | Shit Ariza played pretty well in the playoffs and is young. Artest is a loose cannon. Plays great defense though. Why change something that worked? | |
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| said by pro7070 :Shit Ariza played pretty well in the playoffs and is young. Artest is a loose cannon. Plays great defense though. Why change something that worked? ariza was like a 7ppg guy until the playoffs.. he is fools gold in my opinion -- F=m*(dv/dt) | |
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| Re: Lakers get the Cherry on Top: Artest! said by Solid_Snake :said by pro7070 :Shit Ariza played pretty well in the playoffs and is young. Artest is a loose cannon. Plays great defense though. Why change something that worked? ariza was like a 7ppg guy until the playoffs.. he is fools gold in my opinion Ariza averaged 7 ppg @ 20.0 minutes/game in his 5 years as a pro. This year in the playoffs his MPG went up to 31.4 and his PPG went up to 11.3.
Artest career average is 16.1 @ 34.8 MPG. This year in the Playoffs he averaged 15.6 @ 37.5 MPG.
Artest's first 5 years he averaged 13.2 PPG @ 31.2 MPG.
I don't think it's fair to compare PPG between a guy that averages 14 more minutes a game in the regular season for his career. You can see by the numbers the more minutes Ariza has gotten his production has went up. And this is playing with one of the biggest ball hogs (deservedly so) in the league.
Now Artest plays hands down better defense and may fit like a glove in this system like Pippen did in Chicago. But damn he's a loose canon that could cause some problems. | |
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| Re: Lakers get the Cherry on Top: Artest! said by pro7070 : But damn he's a loose canon that could cause some problems. When was the last time he lost it? I'm not keeping tabs, but it seems like he's been pretty mellow of late.. Maybe he's grown up? I was very different at 25 (when the brawl happened) and 30 (his current age). Look at Kobe, very different than he was 5 years ago.. | |
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| Re: Lakers get the Cherry on Top: Artest! said by Mats :Ya but once a dick always a dick. Just like Kobe. Once a hater always a hater | |
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| Re: Lakers get the Cherry on Top: Artest! said by Eagles LoveR :said by Mats :Ya but once a dick always a dick. Just like Kobe. Once a hater always a hater True enough. | |
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| Re: Lakers get the Cherry on Top: Artest! said by tao :For what Ron Artest did when he was 25, he should still be in jail. A couple of other then-Pacers too. 5 years for a brawl? Stallworth has 30 days for killing a person... and Artest deserves 5 years for a brawl? -- "I done wrassled with an alligator, I done tussled with a whale, only Last week I murdered a rock, Injured a stone, hospitalized a brick, I'm so mean I make medicine sick!!"-Ali | |
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| said by tao :For what Ron Artest did when he was 25, he should still be in jail. A couple of other then-Pacers too. That's just crazy talk. People spend like one night in jail for getting into fights.. And I know the Detroit fans were all just angels too... | |
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| said by ariesguy :said by pro7070 : But damn he's a loose canon that could cause some problems. When was the last time he lost it? I'm not keeping tabs, but it seems like he's been pretty mellow of late.. Maybe he's grown up? I was very different at 25 (when the brawl happened) and 30 (his current age). Look at Kobe, very different than he was 5 years ago.. He was arrested 2 years ago for domestic abuse and did time for it. -- You're so vain... I bet you think this post is about you. | |
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| Re: Lakers get the Cherry on Top: Artest! said by Assault :I think Kobe could have more rings than Jordan one day. It's a possibility | |
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| said by Assault :I think Kobe could have more rings than Jordan one day. Only then could they be truely compared.... -- Graphic Disorder | |
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  Loco Premium join:2002-11-09 So Cal | Chit, meng.....i want Yao Ming & Dwayne Wade added to the Lakers roster.
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