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mrham
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Re: TVoIP Question

Thank You, darcilicious, I appreciate your answering my questions in detail, and shedding some light on the topic.

I am going to get the "Grand Slam, as they call it, and put the satellite on hold as you suggested. Just in case there are any issues.


darcilicious
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said by mrham See Profile :

Our new home is no more than 2 miles max from their offices/source. So, signal lose should be minimal, hopefully.
It's wire length that will determine the maximum speed. If you're on a long copper loop from the CO to your premises, then you won't be able to get the faster speeds. However...

And, according to the article I referenced, they use fiber (supposedly) to the box where they then run it to the house with copper.
Well, now you're talking about FTTP (fiber to the premises) and that has NOTHING to do with copper/DSL. FTTP is exactly what Verizon (my provider) rolls out for phone, Internet, and TV. In Verizon's case, the ONLY thing left on copper is the internal wiring for PHONE; TV and INTERNET are over either MOCA (via coax) or ethernet (via CAT5).

DSL is all about copper from the CO all the way to your DSL modem with NO fiber in between the two.

What is confusing is, the signal comes in to the modem, then to their box's at the TV's, and also to my router and then to my 3 computers from the router.
Sounds pretty standard for FTTP -- pretty much how Verizon does it at any rate.

I am wondering how well this works, as in bandwidth for the TV and for DSL, and the quality of the TV reception.


Well if it's FTTH then it's a non-issue unless they're keeping the provisioning way low. Fiber can easily handle TV over IP AND Internet without either impacting the other UNLESS they are limiting the over all speed to less than what you all your TVs and all your computers are using.

The price for their phone service, including unlimited long distance, the TV over IP, (127 channels), and their "blazingly fast 3 meg DSL service is right at $135.00 a month.
That is why I am looking into it. I am currently paying twice that for Satellite TV, 5meg DSL, and my phone service.
Why not try out S-Go Video service along side your satellite service -- don't they offer something like 14-days free to test? Or can you put your satellite service on hold?

I didn't find that the article you referenced nor their website particularly helpful in the details of how things are configured. But the crux of it is, if everything is on IP, then yes, using the TV will impact your Internet -- but if you're primarily browsing websites and checking email, I can't imagine it would be that noticeable.

At any rate, it doesn't seem that any of their customers are on this site / reading this forum so you're probably going to have to straight to the source to get more info (e.g. calling them up and asking detailed questions).


dvd536
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said by mrham See Profile :

Did you look at the URL I referenced? All of this TV over IP is greek to me, thus the questions.
Yes.
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This forum might be more help: »TV over IP
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mrham
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dvd536, the town is Seneca Missouri, and the local phone company has DSL, and this TV over IP all sewed up. Nothing else is available, unless we stay with DirecTV satellite for our TV provider.
The company is called s-go-video, and the maximum DSL speed available is 3 megs. Which cost's $30.00 more a month than their 2 meg service.
Pretty sorry, if you ask me. And they port to Netins, out of Iowa.

Did you look at the URL I referenced? All of this TV over IP is greek to me, thus the questions.


dvd536
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said by mrham See Profile :

We are moving later this month to a small town where they offer TV over IP.
They have said that the signal comes to the home over the same wire as the DSL, to the modem, then to the individual settop box's at each TV. (At this point, no HDTV)
This is totally new to me. Does the TV signal interfere with the DSL, as in taking bandwidth?
This Company only offers 2 or 3 meg DSL service, and 110 TV channels plus the usual HBO, Starz, & Cinemax pay channels.

Here is what I have found, so far, as how they deliver the TV over IP, plus DSL.
It would be just like A T & T's uverse where speeds would decrease on your internet if you're watching TV.
at 3megs total, PQ would be horrid. the first thing to do would be to find out if you can even GET DSL service at the residence you're moving to.
is cable tv avail in that area?
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mrham
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reply to darcilicious
Our new home is no more than 2 miles max from their offices/source. So, signal lose should be minimal, hopefully.

And, according to the article I referenced, they use fiber (supposedly) to the box where they then run it to the house with copper.

What is confusing is, the signal comes in to the modem, then to their box's at the TV's, and also to my router and then to my 3 computers from the router.

I am wondering how well this works, as in bandwidth for the TV and for DSL, and the quality of the TV reception.
The price for their phone service, including unlimited long distance, the TV over IP, (127 channels), and their "blazingly fast 3 meg DSL service is right at $135.00 a month.
That is why I am looking into it. I am currently paying twice that for Satellite TV, 5meg DSL, and my phone service.


darcilicious
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reply to mrham
Does the TV signal interfere with the DSL, as in taking bandwidth?
Quite possibly.

Generally speaking:
*DSL has definite limitations that become more apparent the farther away you are from where the signal originates. And no matter how fast a connection you have, it's not infinite so anything using IP will take up some of that bandwidth.

However, I'm not all that familiar with Video over *DSL so there could be some things they're doing to work around that (two separate DSL connections maybe??)


mrham
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Hello...........anyone out there???


mrham
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We are moving later this month to a small town where they offer TV over IP.
They have said that the signal comes to the home over the same wire as the DSL, to the modem, then to the individual settop box's at each TV. (At this point, no HDTV)
This is totally new to me. Does the TV signal interfere with the DSL, as in taking bandwidth?
This Company only offers 2 or 3 meg DSL service, and 110 TV channels plus the usual HBO, Starz, & Cinemax pay channels.

Here is what I have found, so far, as how they deliver the TV over IP, plus DSL.

»telephonyonline.com/access/news/···_112305/

Thank you for your time and responses.
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