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HappyBunny
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reply to SOLdesign
Re: I am not paying for MJ's memorial!

I. AM. SO. SICK. OF. MICHAEL. JACKSON.

Pleeeease someone make it stop!


WiFiguru
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said by HappyBunny See Profile :

I. AM. SO. SICK. OF. MICHAEL. JACKSON.

Pleeeease someone make it stop!
Who's Michael Jackson?


mers2
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said by shortckt See Profile :

said by mers2 See Profile :

The attention given MJ passed absurd long ago. We've had over a week of nonstop reporting on his death and it still leads every news cast....
I'm so relieved that Alaska's governor announced she is resigning, if for no other reason, it gives the media something else to focus on than MJ... MJ... MJ... MJ...

edit: "news" media is so bad, for awhile there, I thought about sending an anonymous video of ylen watering his lawn to Fox news
Even with Gov. Palin resigning, the news still lead off with MJ. Not sure what would knock him off the lead. Just plain pathetic. As are the folks wallowing in "grief".

Edited to add: I'll chip in to send the video to Fox.
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amysheehan
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said by WiFiguru See Profile :

»www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Music/0···dex.html

" People who do not have a ticket should stay away and watch the event on television, a Los Angeles police official said.

The Los Angeles city government will provide security for the event, despite a budget crisis, said Los Angeles Councilwoman Jan Perry, who is acting mayor while Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa is out of the country."

Blahahha
Of NOTE: Jan Perry who is Mayor protem while V is out of the country serves the area where Staples is located I believe.

Leave it to Mayor V to be out of town all this time. He seems to be away when ever there is something big going on in LA

I am trying to remember what happened when he was in Europe a couple of years ago for reference.

Just my 2 centavos.
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SOLdesign
Did I drink a shot of Irrational Whore?
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the last time he left town, they discovered his mistress. brfore that we were having illegal alien protests and he left. he is a total douche. I issue him the official writ of douchebaggery.

TACSPEED
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quote:
The city has also set up a Web site urging fans to make tax-deductible donations through credit cards, PayPal or check to help defray costs.

Fans have thus far donated $17,000, but contributions have been hampered by technical problems, Szabo said in a statement.

The site received so many hits that the servers crashed Tuesday night and several times Wednesday, Szabo said. The city's information technology department is working to rectify the problems.
»news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090709/ap_···ial_cost

If the city can their web site up and running, maybe you won't have to pay the full amount.

»mayor.lacity.org/PressRoom/Press···P_005598

quote:
In a letter to the emergency management department, Greuel criticized the nearly $49,000 expense for police officers' lunches, which were ordered from a restaurant located 80 miles from Los Angeles.
But they were good sandwiches!
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58999258

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reply to SOLdesign
I tried to get to the city website for donation, but everytime i tired, it was down.


jig

join:2001-01-05
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reply to TACSPEED
i'm still calling bullshit on the 1.4m. how many cops were there, and how many hours did they work? someone said something like 3000.... that's way way more than they would need, and that's $500 each for the whole time.

i'd say they'd never need more than 500 for the area they blocked off. that's $2800 each for at most a half day's work.

we'll see. the mayors office keeps trumpeting that they thought it was going to be 4m... as if we're supposed to be grateful that it only cost 1.4m. that's over 20 teacher's salaries, for a whole year...
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58999258

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If they could spend $35k on just food, i can easily see them having 3k officers that at the end cost 1.4 million.


jig

join:2001-01-05
Hacienda Heights, CA
ok, then that means the city loses 1.4m on every laker game, cause that's about as many people who showed for MJs eulogy.
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SOLdesign
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tonight, they jacked the estimate up to $4mill. nice.

and BTW, I have absolutely no problem with the lunches. I saw th estory on the news tonight and they got two sandwiches, two bags of chips fruit desert and two sodas. They had the lowest bid. I call it a win even though I had to pay for it.


shortckt
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reply to SOLdesign
The latest story seems to be the large LAPD response was in proportion to the estimated number of visitors. Actual numbers ended up being only a fraction of that estimate. The company which put the whole thing together provided the overly optimistic estimate. No sanity checking was done. Amazingly, the city has no record of anyone obtaining a permit for any portion of the MJ event!

The original cost was revised downward by: accounting for payroll savings by sending some officers home early when it became apparent the estimated crowds were not going to materialize; accounting for the venue operator (AEG ?) agreeing to pay a small part of the cost; and (probably) some 'creative accounting.'

Some city leaders, including newly elected LA City Attorney Trutanich, are promising to investigate score brownie points with the public and extract due payment from Jackson family, the venue operator or whoever.


mers2
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Re: I am not paying for MJ's memorial!

said by shortckt See Profile :

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I just noticed this... did he have to go stand in the corner one time too many ?
Whatever will we do for entertainment now? I suspect he'll be back under another name, but with the same posting habits.
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shortckt
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I think he's already back, but time will tell. I wonder what was the last straw, so to speak.


CurtesyFlush
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said by 58999258 See Profile :

I tried to get to the city website for donation, but everytime i tired, it was down.
It was probably tired too.

And all this time I thought ylen did things just to be a troll or scofflaw but instead he is just trying to donate.


Steve
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said by shortckt See Profile :

Amazingly, the city has no record of anyone obtaining a permit for any portion of the MJ event!
Why would they need a permit?

This was a private event held on private property with attendance known in advance to fit within the property: do they need a permit for every Laker's game too?

I understand that something is different about this, but not sure how the law could call it anything other than any other event held at Staples Center.

Steve
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58999258

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said by jig See Profile :

ok, then that means the city loses 1.4m on every laker game, cause that's about as many people who showed for MJs eulogy.
Do city need to have 3k officers out? My guess is no. Do they need special traffic control etc? Very unlikely unless it's right before the championship.


dogma
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said by shortckt See Profile :

...Actual numbers ended up being only a fraction of that estimate. The company which put the whole thing together provided the overly optimistic estimate.
said by Reuters--> »www.reuters.com/article/michaelJ···20090707 :
Police estimate more than 250,000 people will cram onto the sidewalks outside the arena to pay their final respect to the "Thriller" singer
said by ABC News--> »i.abcnews.com/Blotter/MichaelJac···2&page=1 :
Preparations for Michael Jackson's memorial service Tuesday are being made with Los Angeles city and county officials, who are anticipating a crowd of mourners that could top 750,000, according to sources involved in the planning.
said by NBC News--> »www.nbcwashington.com/news/enter···rs-.html :
A crush of Michael Jackson fans -- with some estimates nearing 1 million -- will descend on the Staples Center in Los Angeles...
No, these crowd estimates didn't come from the promoter. In fact I don't think they came from the "Police" or "City Officials" either as no names are quoted.

This is yet another example of our sociopath broadcast media attempting to create an entertainment product out of thin air. Although the entertainment product was inside the Staples Center (How fitting for MJ, he was pimped by everyone he ever came into contact with in life, and he gets pimped in death), it was commercial free. A cooked up frenzy of hundred's of thousands of MJ fans stampeding outside the Staples Center is exactly the "reality show" the media wanted very, very desperately to drum up and to sell.

Kudos to LAPD...again... for making their presence known ahead of time, and forcing the media to report to the public not to come to the event. Thus preempting any major confrontation between Police and citizens.

Look at it another way; On February 5, 2009 Los Angeles City Council agreed to pay nearly $13 million to people injured or mistreated in a 2007 May Day melee in MacArthur Park --bringing the total money spent over the prior two weeks to settle lawsuits alleging LAPD misconduct to more than $30 million.

One plaintiff, just one plaintiff in the Rampart scandal got a $16 Million settlement from the LAPD. I am guessing the LAPD has paid out more than $1/2 Billion in "settlements" over the years.

I am becoming a fan of Chief Bratton. He's methodically getting rid of the slimebag racist LAPD culture and slowly building a "professional Agency".
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