I am not paying for MJ's memorial! in Southern California http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r22647730 en Wed, 09 Dec 2009 02:01:01 EDT Wed, 09 Dec 2009 02:01:01 EDT Re: I am not paying for MJ's memorial! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22693236 HappyBunny :
said by shortckt See Profile :

After reading my IM I now understand why he's gone. And the Wx forum would not have been the right place to send him.
No one deserves THAT. No one.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22693236 Sat, 11 Jul 2009 23:08:39 EDT I am not paying for MJ's memorial! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22687204 shortckt :
said by HappyBunny See Profile :

Oh no, dont get rid of our personal troll! We love him, kind of like an evil little mascot.
Maybe they should'a banished him to the Wx forum ;)

edit: After reading my IM I now understand why he's gone. And the Wx forum would not have been the right place to send him.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22687204 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:18:43 EDT I am not paying for MJ's memorial! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22687175 shortckt :
said by Steve See Profile :

Why would they need a permit?
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Not for the event taking place on the Staples Center property, but for the ancilliary services required from the city to assist the event, e.g. traffic control, extra police, barricades etc.

For all I know, the large venues may pay a recurring fee for permits to host regularly scheduled large events.

In a city where you (strictly speaking) need a permit to have a garage or yard sale i'm surprised LA overlooked this small point while entire departments were making preparations for the onslaught of the masses.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22687175 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:13:12 EDT I am not paying for MJ's memorial! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22687101 shortckt :
said by shortckt See Profile :

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I just noticed this... did he have to go stand in the corner one time too many ? :D :D
LOL he must have really pissed someone off, my earlier post (right above mers2 See Profile's response) which included a screen shot of his avatar was deleted by a mod. A first for me ever on BBR!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22687101 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:01:32 EDT Re: I am not paying for MJ's memorial! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22687084 SOLdesign : I thought the police response was appropriate, I just want the responsible parties to pay for it. And that does not include me.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22687084 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 14:58:20 EDT Re: I am not paying for MJ's memorial! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22686527 HappyBunny : Oh no, dont get rid of our personal troll! We love him, kind of like an evil little mascot.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22686527 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 13:30:54 EDT Re: I am not paying for MJ's memorial! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22685583 dogma :
said by shortckt See Profile :

...Actual numbers ended up being only a fraction of that estimate. The company which put the whole thing together provided the overly optimistic estimate.
said by Reuters--> »www.reuters.com/article/michaelJ···20090707 :
Police estimate more than 250,000 people will cram onto the sidewalks outside the arena to pay their final respect to the "Thriller" singer


said by ABC News--> »i.abcnews.com/Blotter/MichaelJac···2&page=1 :
Preparations for Michael Jackson's memorial service Tuesday are being made with Los Angeles city and county officials, who are anticipating a crowd of mourners that could top 750,000, according to sources involved in the planning.

said by NBC News--> »www.nbcwashington.com/news/enter···rs-.html :
A crush of Michael Jackson fans -- with some estimates nearing 1 million -- will descend on the Staples Center in Los Angeles...


No, these crowd estimates didn't come from the promoter. In fact I don't think they came from the "Police" or "City Officials" either as no names are quoted.

This is yet another example of our sociopath broadcast media attempting to create an entertainment product out of thin air. Although the entertainment product was inside the Staples Center (How fitting for MJ, he was pimped by everyone he ever came into contact with in life, and he gets pimped in death), it was commercial free. A cooked up frenzy of hundred's of thousands of MJ fans stampeding outside the Staples Center is exactly the "reality show" the media wanted very, very desperately to drum up and to sell.

Kudos to LAPD...again... for making their presence known ahead of time, and forcing the media to report to the public not to come to the event. Thus preempting any major confrontation between Police and citizens.

Look at it another way; On February 5, 2009 Los Angeles City Council agreed to pay nearly $13 million to people injured or mistreated in a 2007 May Day melee in MacArthur Park --bringing the total money spent over the prior two weeks to settle lawsuits alleging LAPD misconduct to more than $30 million.

One plaintiff, just one plaintiff in the Rampart scandal got a $16 Million settlement from the LAPD. I am guessing the LAPD has paid out more than $1/2 Billion in "settlements" over the years.

I am becoming a fan of Chief Bratton. He's methodically getting rid of the slimebag racist LAPD culture and slowly building a "professional Agency".]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22685583 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 11:22:33 EDT Re: I am not paying for MJ's memorial! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22683974 58999258 :
said by jig See Profile :

ok, then that means the city loses 1.4m on every laker game, cause that's about as many people who showed for MJs eulogy.
Do city need to have 3k officers out? My guess is no. Do they need special traffic control etc? Very unlikely unless it's right before the championship.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22683974 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 10:58:42 EDT Re: I am not paying for MJ's memorial! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22685199 Steve :
said by shortckt See Profile :

Amazingly, the city has no record of anyone obtaining a permit for any portion of the MJ event!
Why would they need a permit?

This was a private event held on private property with attendance known in advance to fit within the property: do they need a permit for every Laker's game too?

I understand that something is different about this, but not sure how the law could call it anything other than any other event held at Staples Center.

Steve
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said by 58999258 See Profile :

I tried to get to the city website for donation, but everytime i tired, it was down.
It was probably tired too.

And all this time I thought ylen did things just to be a troll or scofflaw but instead he is just trying to donate.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22684291 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 07:12:32 EDT Re: I am not paying for MJ's memorial! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22684274 CurtesyFlush : 58999258 See Profile]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22684274 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 07:05:48 EDT I am not paying for MJ's memorial! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22684268 shortckt : I think he's already back, but time will tell. I wonder what was the last straw, so to speak.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22684268 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 06:58:38 EDT Re: I am not paying for MJ's memorial! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22684247 mers2 :
said by shortckt See Profile :

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I just noticed this... did he have to go stand in the corner one time too many ? :D :D
Whatever will we do for entertainment now? I suspect he'll be back under another name, but with the same posting habits.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22684247 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 06:47:23 EDT I am not paying for MJ's memorial! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22684218 shortckt : The latest story seems to be the large LAPD response was in proportion to the estimated number of visitors. Actual numbers ended up being only a fraction of that estimate. The company which put the whole thing together provided the overly optimistic estimate. No sanity checking was done. Amazingly, the city has no record of anyone obtaining a permit for any portion of the MJ event!

The original cost was revised downward by: accounting for payroll savings by sending some officers home early when it became apparent the estimated crowds were not going to materialize; accounting for the venue operator (AEG ?) agreeing to pay a small part of the cost; and (probably) some 'creative accounting.'

Some city leaders, including newly elected LA City Attorney Trutanich, are promising to investigate score brownie points with the public and extract due payment from Jackson family, the venue operator or whoever. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22684218 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 06:20:46 EDT Re: I am not paying for MJ's memorial! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22684019 SOLdesign : tonight, they jacked the estimate up to $4mill. nice.

and BTW, I have absolutely no problem with the lunches. I saw th estory on the news tonight and they got two sandwiches, two bags of chips fruit desert and two sodas. They had the lowest bid. I call it a win even though I had to pay for it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22684019 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 02:46:46 EDT Re: I am not paying for MJ's memorial! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22683970 jig : ok, then that means the city loses 1.4m on every laker game, cause that's about as many people who showed for MJs eulogy.
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i'd say they'd never need more than 500 for the area they blocked off. that's $2800 each for at most a half day's work.

we'll see. the mayors office keeps trumpeting that they thought it was going to be 4m... as if we're supposed to be grateful that it only cost 1.4m. that's over 20 teacher's salaries, for a whole year...
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quote:
The city has also set up a Web site urging fans to make tax-deductible donations through credit cards, PayPal or check to help defray costs.

Fans have thus far donated $17,000, but contributions have been hampered by technical problems, Szabo said in a statement.

The site received so many hits that the servers crashed Tuesday night and several times Wednesday, Szabo said. The city's information technology department is working to rectify the problems.


»news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090709/ap_···ial_cost

If the city can their web site up and running, maybe you won't have to pay the full amount.

»mayor.lacity.org/PressRoom/Press···P_005598

quote:
In a letter to the emergency management department, Greuel criticized the nearly $49,000 expense for police officers' lunches, which were ordered from a restaurant located 80 miles from Los Angeles.
But they were good sandwiches!
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said by WiFiguru See Profile :

»www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Music/0···dex.html

" People who do not have a ticket should stay away and watch the event on television, a Los Angeles police official said.

The Los Angeles city government will provide security for the event, despite a budget crisis, said Los Angeles Councilwoman Jan Perry, who is acting mayor while Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa is out of the country."

Blahahha
Of NOTE: Jan Perry who is Mayor protem while V is out of the country serves the area where Staples is located I believe.

Leave it to Mayor V to be out of town all this time. He seems to be away when ever there is something big going on in LA

I am trying to remember what happened when he was in Europe a couple of years ago for reference.

Just my 2 centavos.
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said by shortckt See Profile :

said by mers2 See Profile :

The attention given MJ passed absurd long ago. We've had over a week of nonstop reporting on his death and it still leads every news cast....
I'm so relieved that Alaska's governor announced she is resigning, if for no other reason, it gives the media something else to focus on than MJ... MJ... MJ... MJ...

edit: "news" media is so bad, for awhile there, I thought about sending an anonymous video of ylen watering his lawn to Fox news :D
Even with Gov. Palin resigning, the news still lead off with MJ. Not sure what would knock him off the lead. Just plain pathetic. As are the folks wallowing in "grief".

Edited to add: I'll chip in to send the video to Fox. :-)
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22652867 Sat, 04 Jul 2009 04:40:16 EDT Re: I am not paying for MJ's memorial! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22652835 WiFiguru :
said by HappyBunny See Profile :

I. AM. SO. SICK. OF. MICHAEL. JACKSON.

Pleeeease someone make it stop!
Who's Michael Jackson?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22652835 Sat, 04 Jul 2009 04:05:52 EDT Re: I am not paying for MJ's memorial! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22652810 HappyBunny : I. AM. SO. SICK. OF. MICHAEL. JACKSON.

Pleeeease someone make it stop!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22652810 Sat, 04 Jul 2009 03:27:31 EDT Re: I am not paying for MJ's memorial! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22652706 Steve : Staples, 10A Tuesday. There's an online lottery for ~8000 pairs of free tickets, though I think parking will be expensive.

I believe the Nokia theater may have a broadcast of the memorial as well, but I don't know the details.
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In the twisted world of your mind, does a NOT GUILTY verdict mean he didn't do it?
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"I am not going to re-elect any of the assholes who are not billing the Jackson's for this..."]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22652069 Fri, 03 Jul 2009 22:24:08 EDT Re: I am not paying for MJ's memorial! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22651892 TK Junk Mail : Maybe we can tell the mourners that show up to "beat it".]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22651892 Fri, 03 Jul 2009 21:29:59 EDT Re: I am not paying for MJ's memorial! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22651890 Steve :
said by SOLdesign See Profile :

I am not paying for MJ's memorial!
Here, let me fix this for you
said by SOLdesign See Profile :

I am going to pay for MJ's memorial whether I like it or not
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22651890 Fri, 03 Jul 2009 21:29:23 EDT Re: I am not paying for MJ's memorial! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22651846 WiFiguru : »www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Music/0···dex.html

" People who do not have a ticket should stay away and watch the event on television, a Los Angeles police official said.

The Los Angeles city government will provide security for the event, despite a budget crisis, said Los Angeles Councilwoman Jan Perry, who is acting mayor while Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa is out of the country."

Blahahha]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22651846 Fri, 03 Jul 2009 21:17:40 EDT I am not paying for MJ's memorial! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22650612 shortckt :
said by mers2 See Profile :

The attention given MJ passed absurd long ago. We've had over a week of nonstop reporting on his death and it still leads every news cast....
I'm so relieved that Alaska's governor announced she is resigning, if for no other reason, it gives the media something else to focus on than MJ... MJ... MJ... MJ...

edit: "news" media is so bad, for awhile there, I thought about sending an anonymous video of ylen watering his lawn to Fox news :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22650612 Fri, 03 Jul 2009 16:36:12 EDT Re: I am not paying for MJ's memorial! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22649511 TearAbite :
said by CurtesyFlush See Profile :

Didn't you say you grew up in So Cal?
San Gabriel Valley.. But I rarely ventured west of Pasadena, so I'm not familiar with all that big-city stuff..]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22649511 Fri, 03 Jul 2009 12:12:24 EDT Re: I am not paying for MJ's memorial! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22648924 No_Strings : I was with you right up to the last sentence, mers2 See Profile. Unfortunately, the silliness surrounding this nutcase is not confined to California. We're just hosting one of the premier silly events.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22648924 Fri, 03 Jul 2009 09:54:28 EDT Re: I am not paying for MJ's memorial! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22648510 mers2 : The attention given MJ passed absurd long ago. We've had over a week of nonstop reporting on his death and it still leads every news cast - like nothing important is going on in the rest of the state or the world. I can't believe the people acting like their world has come to an end - they desperately need a life. It's no wonder California is in such a mess. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22648510 Fri, 03 Jul 2009 04:38:11 EDT Re: I am not paying for MJ's memorial! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22647863 SOLdesign : He paid off several accusers and used his "mob" to intimidate and bully the families. I think he was a pedophile and I will call him one. Staples Center or Nokia is where they are going to have the memorial. I do not believe my tax money should go to pay the OT for the police to control the event. I pay LA City taxes.

BTW, Staples is charging $25 bucks to enter. That money should go to pay the police, not mine.
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said by TearAbite See Profile :

Woodland Hills is part of LA City ?
Didn't you say you grew up in So Cal?
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said by 81399672 See Profile :

said by TearAbite See Profile :

Woodland Hills is part of LA City ?
Staples is not in woodland hills
*WHOOSH*
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said by TearAbite See Profile :

Woodland Hills is part of LA City ?
Staples is not in woodland hills
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The city is broke and they want us to pay for OT for cops for this? The Jackson family can pay if they want this but not me dammit!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22647730 Thu, 02 Jul 2009 22:39:14 EDT