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| Cybersecurity Plan to Involve NSA, Telecoms (again)
From The Washington Post July 3, 2009 - quote: DHS Officials Debating The Privacy Implications
The Obama administration will proceed with a Bush-era plan to use National Security Agency assistance in screening government computer traffic on private-sector networks, with AT&T as the likely test site, according to three current and former government officials.
President Obama said in May that government efforts to protect computer systems from attack would not involve "monitoring private-sector networks or Internet traffic," and Department of Homeland Security officials say the new program will scrutinize only data going to or from government systems.
But the program has provoked debate within DHS, the officials said, because of uncertainty about whether private data can be shielded from unauthorized scrutiny, how much of a role NSA should play and whether the agency's involvement in warrantless wiretapping during George W. Bush's presidency would draw controversy. Each time a private citizen visited a "dot-gov" Web site or sent an e-mail to a civilian government employee, that action would be screened for potential harm to the network.
AT&T, the world's largest telecommunications firm, was the Bush administration's choice to participate in the test, which has been delayed for months as the Obama administration determines what elements to preserve, former government officials said. The pilot program was to have begun in February.
"To be clear, Einstein 3 development is proceeding," DHS spokeswoman Amy Kudwa said. "We are moving forward in a way that protects privacy and civil liberties."
AT&T officials declined to comment.
The NSA declined to comment on Einstein 3, but a spokeswoman said the agency would help DHS in "any way possible, including technical support," as it seeks to protect government networks.
AT&T was sued over its role in aiding the Bush-era counterterrorism program to intercept Americans' e-mails and phone calls without a warrant. It is seeking legal assurance that it will not be sued for participating in the pilot program. That legal certification has been held up for several months as DHS prepares a contract, several current and former officials said.
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It is many years now since I coined the term 'The Totalitarian Tiptoe' for the technique of step-by-step changes leading to a long-planned goal. Each step is promoted as unconnected to all the others when in fact they are fundamentally connected and all lead in the same direction - centralised control.
The idea of the Totalitarian Tiptoe is to diffuse the opposition there would be if they went from A to Z in one go. The change would be so great that heads would lift and eyes would open to ask the question: 'What's going on?' By taking baby steps, each change is sold as small and insignificant while the Shadow People orchestrate the steps to become, taken together, giant strides of change and imposition.
There is no better example of this than the European Union and this week came another blatant example of the technique. This is also relevant to readers in the Americas, Asia, Africa and Australia-New Zealand because the same is happening there by the day. The European Union is only the precursor to four superstates that are being tiptoed into place. The others are the American Union (the North American Union - The United States, Canada and Mexico - is now secretly well advanced); the African Union; and the Asia-Pacific Union. These are designed to be the second tier of global control under a world government.
If the manipulators had come clean and told the truth about these plans there would be have been an outcry decades ago. They knew this and so it has all been done on the sly, step by step. The major politicians of all major parties say one thing in public while pursuing a very different path behind the scenes. |
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If they can trust the private-sector, why not? They did this for years anyway with copper phone lines...the difference being now there telling us before hand.
We do need some protecting/screening. If we cannot trust the screeners then vote them out for new ones. -- Live Free or Die! www.sidux.com www.chronixradio.com
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The history is interesting - »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einstein_(···program)
Fortunately, the EINSTEIN program is presently limited to government systems and those communications going into and out of them, and there is at least lip service to considering privacy issues. The test will be whether that lip service translates to real citizen protection.
Unfortunately what could have been nipped in the bud a few years back is now institutionalized. One can only hope there will be better legislative and judicial branch oversight than in the past.
There were few here who were concerned with the ever-spreading government surveillance and diminishing fourth amendment rights, while others either ignored the possibility of a left-leaning government coming to power, and/or spouted things like "if you haven't done anything wrong, you don't have anything to worry about".
Well, here we are - no surprises so far.. -- The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding. -- Justice Louis D. Brandeis |
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| said by EGeezer :There were few here who were concerned with the ever-spreading government surveillance and diminishing fourth amendment rights, while others either ignored the possibility of a left-leaning government coming to power, and/or spouted things like "if you haven't done anything wrong, you don't have anything to worry about". Well, here we are - no surprises so far.. Agreed.
"The Robber Class loves to divide us along arbitrary lines: Republican/Democrat; White/Black/Brown; Protestant/Catholic/Jew/Muslim; North/South; but these divisions are malleable... The Robber Class knows that there really only exists one division in the world: Robber Class and Robbed Class. We in the Robbed Class have way more in common with each other than we do that separates us. They can only rob us, if we allow them to." -- Cindy Sheehan |
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