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nasadude

join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD

reply to openbox9

Re: Government Oversight

so you trust businesses and don't have any problem getting ripped off when they turn out not to be trustworthy?

we've all seen lately how well self regulation works out.

openbox9

join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
kudos:2

Considering I don't believe that I'm getting ripped off by any of the companies that I'm doing business with, I'm comfortable with my level of trust. If the situation changes, I will reevaluate.



urbanriot
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join:2004-10-18
Canada
kudos:2
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·Cogeco Cable

reply to nasadude
... and we've also seen how government regulation works out as well.

It seems as though you have a clear bias against 'big business' and automatically assume they're out to rip people off. So far Cogeco hasn't charged anyone yet and haven't proved that they're not trustworthy.


sonicmerlin

join:2009-05-24
Cleveland, OH
kudos:1

You mean government regulation of...

water, electricity, local landlines, highways, etc.?

There's no such thing as a "bias" against big business that makes record profits in difficult economic times, while complaining about the "burden" of their consumers' usage.

It has been regularly documented on various websites how shady and truly evil these cable ISPs and the telcos can be by gouging customers and jacking up prices where there is no or limited competition. Whether it's Time Warner's illicit and unwanted "reeducation" programs to turn its users against each other and help it pass its metered billing program, or Comcast's throttling of certain types of internet usage, or Fairpoint's desire to impose a 1993 level 5 GB cap on their DSL customers, 'big business' demonstrates over and over again how truly greedy these unregulated oligopolies are.

It's hardly a surprise Canada has slipped so far behind the rest of the world in broadband line quality. Their conservative government has little to no interest in caring for the good of the consumer over the special interests of big business.

I'd like to see a law passed in Canada that forces ISPs to reveal their internal data on the actual cost of internet bandwidth to them. Cogeco having to justify their metered billing to Canada's equivalent of the US's FTC would be much better for all Canadians.


openbox9

join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
kudos:2

said by sonicmerlin:

Whether it's Time Warner's illicit and unwanted "reeducation" programs to turn its users against each other and help it pass its metered billing program, or Comcast's throttling of certain types of internet usage, or Fairpoint's desire to impose a 1993 level 5 GB cap on their DSL customers, 'big business' demonstrates over and over again how truly greedy these unregulated oligopolies are.
And amazingly without the iron first of the government, these "Evil Corporations" tempered their desires and bent to the will of the consumer. Crazy how things can work in a marketplace if enough consumers voice their wants and desires and are willing to back them up with their wallet if need be.
said by sonicmerlin:

I'd like to see a law passed in Canada that forces ISPs to reveal their internal data on the actual cost of internet bandwidth to them.
What possible purpose would that information fill besides inflaming individuals around sites like this. There are many other costs of serving customers than an ISP's bandwidth costs.


urbanriot
Premium
join:2004-10-18
Canada
kudos:2

reply to sonicmerlin
"shady" "truly evil" "gouging" "jacking" "illicit" "greedy" oh come on, give me a break... This is a $69/month service, not some sinister corporation out to rule the world.



digitalfreak
Premium
join:2005-12-09
Blacklick, OH

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reply to openbox9
We all saw what happened in a world of loosely regulated banking. Greed rules.



shoegazer
Premium
join:2009-06-22
Las Vegas, NV

reply to sonicmerlin
my mom left canada because of the quean,and the cold thats why i was born in vegas,i guess whats born here stays here..


sonicmerlin

join:2009-05-24
Cleveland, OH
kudos:1

reply to openbox9
Oh PLEASE. Time Warner only tempered their desires when Congress in the form of Rep. Eric Massa threatened to get involved. Besides, you can't expect the public to get up in arms about every little unethical decision or money grab that every monopolistic corporation makes. One of the jobs of the government and the FCC is to protect the people, who are too busy or concerned with their own lives to worry about every little management detail at the national level. This protection includes protecting from corporate greed and business interests, which are very often at odds with the public good.



PapaMidnight

join:2009-01-13
Baltimore, MD

reply to urbanriot

said by urbanriot:

... and we've also seen how government regulation works out as well.

It seems as though you have a clear bias against 'big business' and automatically assume they're out to rip people off. So far Cogeco hasn't charged anyone yet and haven't proved that they're not trustworthy.
Frankly, it's not like they give us reason to believe otherwise; and that's not bias, that's the status quo.

openbox9

join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
kudos:2

reply to sonicmerlin
And Congress got involved why? Because constituents spoke up. The system worked. No, I don't expect the public to get up in arms about every little alleged unethical decision or money grab. Only a select minority is affected, cares about, or even understands some of the questionable business dealings. I'm perfectly fine with the US not becoming a Nanny state. If people aren't willing to attempt to care for their interests and well being, they shouldn't have an expectation that the government will either.



EdG

@eastlink.ca

reply to openbox9

said by openbox9:

Considering I don't believe that I'm getting ripped off by any of the companies that I'm doing business with, I'm comfortable with my level of trust. If the situation changes, I will reevaluate.
Such naivety!

You likely wouldn't have seen WW2 coming then either, from inside Germany given your level of civic responsibility.

The recession is directly tied to too many people having YOUR attitude.

openbox9

join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
kudos:2

My level of civic responsibility? I'm very responsible for my actions and do my due diligence with those that I interact with. Thanks for the judgment though

And the recession is tied to many things, least of which is my attitude.


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