Topic 'Re: [OS X] iMac hard drive failure :(' in forum 'All Things Macintosh' - dslreports.com http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-OS-X-iMac-hard-drive-failure-22649576 en Fri, 10 Feb 2012 17:52:44 EDT Fri, 10 Feb 2012 17:52:44 EDT Re: [OS X] iMac hard drive failure :( http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-OS-X-iMac-hard-drive-failure-22664516 --
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Update: I am less than impressed with the repair process. I took it in on Thursday evening. They said, maybe Saturday afternoon it would be repaired and that I was lucky they had the part so I wouldn't have to wait. So, I have been checking online but it just says "repair in progress". So finally I call them. Once again "you are lucky, we have the part" but it still hasn't been repaired. I ask why the long wait? They say "well, we have been really busy at the Genius bar and they haven't had time to do any repairs." Turns out there are others in front of mine that also haven't been worked on this weekend. Seems like they need more staff.

Nope, not impressed.
I wouldn't hold it to them. It was a holiday weekend so like mentioned already they were probably short handed. You will have you're computer back by Thursday. They are pretty good/quick with these repairs at most Apple stores.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-OS-X-iMac-hard-drive-failure-22662198 Mon, 06 Jul 2009 15:59:02 EDT Re: [OS X] iMac hard drive failure :( http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-OS-X-iMac-hard-drive-failure-22658458
All I wanted was for them to give me a realistic estimate as to when it would be repaired. They don't seem to be able to do that.

So, I wait.
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I'd cut them a little slack. If it's not done by Tuesday morning, then you've got something to be pissed about.

Just my opinion though. Let us know if there are any updates.
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Nope, not impressed.
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said by bskuared:

Well, hopefully I will get it back from the genius folks today. Keep your fingers crossed. Typing on this little 13 inch screen is wearing out my old eyes :)
Make sure to check the status online. I saw it was done and they hadn't called and wouldn't have called for another day.
Thanks... good to know. I have been checking online.
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Well, hopefully I will get it back from the genius folks today. Keep your fingers crossed. Typing on this little 13 inch screen is wearing out my old eyes :)
Make sure to check the status online. I saw it was done and they hadn't called and wouldn't have called for another day.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-OS-X-iMac-hard-drive-failure-22657141 Sun, 05 Jul 2009 13:45:10 EDT Re: [OS X] iMac hard drive failure :( http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-OS-X-iMac-hard-drive-failure-22656731 --
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The wonderful world of computers...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-OS-X-iMac-hard-drive-failure-22656659 Sun, 05 Jul 2009 11:04:45 EDT Re: [OS X] iMac hard drive failure :( http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-OS-X-iMac-hard-drive-failure-22656468 said by hgratt:

said by a101 :

said by Hexley:

Even the really expensive solid state ones can become irreparably damaged, though not as often in a mechanical sense obviously.
A common myth believed by those without direct experience with solid-state disk drives. Presently solid-state drives enjoy a 10x higher failure rate than conventional rotating magnetic storage drives. This data is from warranty returns for same model computers shipped with solid-state disks Vs. conventional disk drives.

O.O.
The reliability issues for SSD's may not be true. See the link below:

»www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/03/20···ounded/1
The 1 in 3 failure rate cited in the link, is many orders of magnitude larger than anything conventional rotating magnetic disk drives experience and clearly not the case. I can't see that any mfgr would continue shipping computers with that high of a failure rate. Still, think about this; flash memory wears out despite the best wear leveling algorithms available. As a matter of fact, the better the wear leveling algorithm, the more likely you are to experience massive failure of many different blocks at about the same time, though it should take somewhat longer than a less sophisticated wear leveling algorithm. Magnetic domains on a disk do not wear out. There is no theoretical limit to the number of times you can reverse the magnetic field polarity of a bit on a disk. SSDs wear out in some 100K writes. In high-end server SSD applications, they're considered "consumables" that are discarded as soon as they start showing signs of wear.

O.O.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-OS-X-iMac-hard-drive-failure-22656468 Sun, 05 Jul 2009 10:03:48 EDT Re: [OS X] iMac hard drive failure :( http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-OS-X-iMac-hard-drive-failure-22656115 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-OS-X-iMac-hard-drive-failure-22656115 Sun, 05 Jul 2009 04:34:33 EDT Re: [OS X] iMac hard drive failure :( http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-OS-X-iMac-hard-drive-failure-22655937 --
Ubuntu MOTU Developer and Forums Council]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-OS-X-iMac-hard-drive-failure-22655937 Sun, 05 Jul 2009 02:18:11 EDT Re: [OS X] iMac hard drive failure :( http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-OS-X-iMac-hard-drive-failure-22655387 said by thender:

FWIW, I have not observed it as a common problem, however, 99.99999% of the drives I take out of Macbooks that fail are Toshiba. I will never use a Toshiba drive in a machine.
Interesting. As per your statistics, you've replaced 10,000,000 Macbook HDDs and all but one was a Toshiba. That's a lot to keep count of.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-OS-X-iMac-hard-drive-failure-22655387 Sat, 04 Jul 2009 22:02:38 EDT Re: [OS X] iMac hard drive failure :( http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-OS-X-iMac-hard-drive-failure-22653875 said by a101 :

said by Hexley:

Even the really expensive solid state ones can become irreparably damaged, though not as often in a mechanical sense obviously.
A common myth believed by those without direct experience with solid-state disk drives. Presently solid-state drives enjoy a 10x higher failure rate than conventional rotating magnetic storage drives. This data is from warranty returns for same model computers shipped with solid-state disks Vs. conventional disk drives.

O.O.
The reliability issues for SSD's may not be true. See the link below:

»www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/03/20···ounded/1]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-OS-X-iMac-hard-drive-failure-22653875 Sat, 04 Jul 2009 13:37:55 EDT Re: [OS X] iMac hard drive failure :( http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-OS-X-iMac-hard-drive-failure-22653464 said by Hexley:

Even the really expensive solid state ones can become irreparably damaged, though not as often in a mechanical sense obviously. A common myth believed by those without direct experience with solid-state disk drives. Presently solid-state drives enjoy a 10x higher failure rate than conventional rotating magnetic storage drives. This data is from warranty returns for same model computers shipped with solid-state disks Vs. conventional disk drives.

O.O.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-OS-X-iMac-hard-drive-failure-22653464 Sat, 04 Jul 2009 11:32:18 EDT Re: [OS X] iMac hard drive failure :( http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-OS-X-iMac-hard-drive-failure-22653450 said by Hexley:

said by daveinpoway:

Others are welcome to correct me if I am wrong, but I believe that the iMac uses a laptop (2.5") hard drive. Historically, these have not lasted as long as desktop (3.5") drives.
iMacs use 3.5" hard drives, the current ones being 7200RPM models from a variety of manufacturers, typically WD, Seagate, Hitachi, Fujitsu, etc.
That's weird.

Desktop drives and laptop memory. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-OS-X-iMac-hard-drive-failure-22653450 Sat, 04 Jul 2009 11:19:34 EDT Re: [OS X] iMac hard drive failure :( http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-OS-X-iMac-hard-drive-failure-22653103 When this drive fails I am going to mount the power and SATA port on the back of the drive and use an external drive. Much easier to replace.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-OS-X-iMac-hard-drive-failure-22653103 Sat, 04 Jul 2009 08:54:56 EDT Re: [OS X] iMac hard drive failure :( http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-OS-X-iMac-hard-drive-failure-22652902 said by daveinpoway:

Others are welcome to correct me if I am wrong, but I believe that the iMac uses a laptop (2.5") hard drive. Historically, these have not lasted as long as desktop (3.5") drives.
iMacs use 3.5" hard drives, the current ones being 7200RPM models from a variety of manufacturers, typically WD, Seagate, Hitachi, Fujitsu, etc.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-OS-X-iMac-hard-drive-failure-22652902 Sat, 04 Jul 2009 05:20:04 EDT Re: [OS X] iMac hard drive failure :( http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-OS-X-iMac-hard-drive-failure-22652823 said by HappyBunny:

I dont know what it was running at celsius, I dont speak that language ;) It was so hot you couldnt touch it.
I don't either Bun, except for computer temps. When it comes to outside temps, humidity and length/width, etc. I'm a died in the wool Imperial System Guy :D
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Lets not forget the fact that today the average HD size is near 1 Tearabite..
10 years ago, the average HD size was 1 or 2 Gigabytes if that..

As manufacturers jam more and more bits into smaller amounts of space, minor defects on the platter that may have gone un noticed 10 years ago could wipe out megs of data on today's HDD..

Combine that with lower prices and lower profit margins, you end up with "disposable" drives.
Ten years ago the average was around 10-20 gigs.

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I think hard drive manufacturers probably could produce a much more reliable hard drive than they do currently, but consumers would probably be unwilling to pay. It's not even close to "probably" - price is the sole driver in almost every commodity market, and (sadly) reliability has become a by-the-way bullet point that only comes into play once price is out of the way.

Steve — who remembers paying $1800 for a 383 megabyte built-like-a-tank Control Data hard drive in 1989]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-OS-X-iMac-hard-drive-failure-22652416 Sat, 04 Jul 2009 00:05:53 EDT Re: [OS X] iMac hard drive failure :( http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-OS-X-iMac-hard-drive-failure-22652261 said by gattaca:

said by HappyBunny:

I had the hard drive fail in my G5 iMac. It ran very very hot--it was around 190 degrees. Not too surprising it would fail. Part of the issue with an iMac--at least the one I have--is that there is a lot of heat trapped behind that monitor. I have also had a power supply and the temperature sensor go. I've never had so many problems with a Mac--and others have had similar issues. I have to think this design--which I do love--is part of the issue. It was a Maxtor drive.

My G4 Dual processor Mac also had a hard drive die--it was one of the infamous IBM DeskStar drives. They were notorious. Apple did replace it for free. I think I had one go on a Mac Quadra back in the day, but I do think that drives were either made better then, or else we placed less demand on them--or maybe it is both.
Your hard drive was running at 87 degrees Celsius?!
OUCH! That would definitely kill it prematurely. Heat=Unhappy Electronics, Cool=Very happy and joyous electronics :D
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As manufacturers jam more and more bits into smaller amounts of space, minor defects on the platter that may have gone un noticed 10 years ago could wipe out megs of data on today's HDD..

Combine that with lower prices and lower profit margins, you end up with "disposable" drives.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-OS-X-iMac-hard-drive-failure-22652139 Fri, 03 Jul 2009 22:41:36 EDT Re: [OS X] iMac hard drive failure :( http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-OS-X-iMac-hard-drive-failure-22652122 --
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Basically, hard drives being the mechanical monsters they are, do fail eventually. Even the really expensive solid state ones can become irreparably damaged, though not as often in a mechanical sense obviously. Same advice applies to data regardless... back up early, back up often, be a happier camper.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-OS-X-iMac-hard-drive-failure-22652117 Fri, 03 Jul 2009 22:37:39 EDT Re: [OS X] iMac hard drive failure :( http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-OS-X-iMac-hard-drive-failure-22652042
I do run virtual machine scratch building servers for Ubuntu packaging though which more or less puts 24/7 constant create-and-delete strain on the filesystem, but bottom line is backups are very important and Time Machine makes them braindead simple.

Now, I do have one 36GB SCSI 10000RPM main drive that has a 10 year history and is still going strong... but considering that it costs 10x+ the price of an equivalent sized consumer grade drive? is THAT really worth it? Nah. The 5 minutes of downtime to swap out a new hard drive is not worth putting in a $150 36GB hard drive ;-)
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I had the hard drive fail in my G5 iMac. It ran very very hot--it was around 190 degrees. Not too surprising it would fail. Part of the issue with an iMac--at least the one I have--is that there is a lot of heat trapped behind that monitor. I have also had a power supply and the temperature sensor go. I've never had so many problems with a Mac--and others have had similar issues. I have to think this design--which I do love--is part of the issue. It was a Maxtor drive.

My G4 Dual processor Mac also had a hard drive die--it was one of the infamous IBM DeskStar drives. They were notorious. Apple did replace it for free. I think I had one go on a Mac Quadra back in the day, but I do think that drives were either made better then, or else we placed less demand on them--or maybe it is both.
Your hard drive was running at 87 degrees Celsius?!
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My G4 Dual processor Mac also had a hard drive die--it was one of the infamous IBM DeskStar drives. They were notorious. Apple did replace it for free. I think I had one go on a Mac Quadra back in the day, but I do think that drives were either made better then, or else we placed less demand on them--or maybe it is both.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-OS-X-iMac-hard-drive-failure-22651899 Fri, 03 Jul 2009 21:32:32 EDT Re: [OS X] iMac hard drive failure :( http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-OS-X-iMac-hard-drive-failure-22651662 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-OS-X-iMac-hard-drive-failure-22651662 Fri, 03 Jul 2009 20:34:44 EDT Re: [OS X] iMac hard drive failure :( http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-OS-X-iMac-hard-drive-failure-22651603 --
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Hard drives are something of a commodity, and hard drive manufactures have found that the best way to compete is to continually push this envelope of ever-expanding drive capacity, while at the same time operating at the cusp of what would be considered "acceptable" reliability.

I mean, think about it: we can buy 1 TB hard drives for less than $80! :) If a manufacturer were to come out with a 500 GB reliability-focused hard drive for 3 times as much, I don't think any consumer would buy it.

As it is, most people are happy enough with the current state of drive reliability, and their need for storage is ever-increasing. Hard drive manufacturers have responded by creating cheap, high capacity drives to meet that demand. Why spend more for an ultra-reliable hard drive when you can buy two huge, cheap drives and use redundancy as a means of reliability?

Even as someone who has been "bitten" by a hard drive failure in the past, I still appreciate that I'm able to buy a huge capacity drive for practically nothing.
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And no need to lecture me about backing up... I'm covered in that arena.
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I'm still thinking that lasting only year just isn't satisfactory.
Some fail early, some fail late, all will eventually fail. It's not a matter of the service life being "satisfactory" - hard drives die and can go at any moment with little or no warning. That's just the nature of a platter spinning 1000's of times a minute, with densely-packed data and a metal arm swinging around just above the disk's surface.

Trust me, you may find this unsatisfactory, but try working at any large organization. When you have thousands of PC's to support, hard drive failures are happening all the time. BACKUP.
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I just was curious what kind of hard drives they use. I'm still thinking that lasting only year just isn't satisfactory.
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However, things like surrounding environment do have a say in the lifespan. A well cooled PC is probably going to have a drive that lives longer than in a machine like the iMac. I believe the same for shuttle PCs.

FWIW, I have not observed it as a common problem, however, 99.99999% of the drives I take out of Macbooks that fail are Toshiba. I will never use a Toshiba drive in a machine.
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seems like someone would want to develop a hard drive that didn't fail in a year.... hate to see this as the "norm". I will say that before I had the iMac I had several other pc type computers - mostly built at home and only one hard drive failure in the bunch. They just kept on ticking.

I wonder what type of hard drive Apple uses? Could this be the issue?
They use a range of brands (IBM back in the day, hitachi, samsung, WD, Seagate, Toshiba, etc). Every Hard drive will fail eventually.

To put some balance into this thread, I still have Macs from 10+ years ago that have the original, working hard drive. I have a PowerMac 9500 turned into a Server that still has it's original boot drive, working fine to this day. All of my modern Macs (Intel-based) still have their original working hard drives in use somewhere (some in external cases).

This really isn't a Mac vs PC issue.. sure you could argue that different file systems put different strains on the hard drive, but largely if a HD is going to fail early, it's going to fail no matter what you do with it.

It's really just luck of the draw.
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I wonder what type of hard drive Apple uses? Could this be the issue?
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none of this really matters :) ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-OS-X-iMac-hard-drive-failure-22650008 Fri, 03 Jul 2009 14:12:20 EDT Re: [OS X] iMac hard drive failure :( http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-OS-X-iMac-hard-drive-failure-22649977 is one year, precisely. Some last longer; many, much less. :(

It was only when I got a UPS and started buying pairs of drives to mount in a RAID that I actually started having hard drives last past their warranty time.
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so yah, shit happens, things break.. THAT is why we have TimeMachine..]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-OS-X-iMac-hard-drive-failure-22649839 Fri, 03 Jul 2009 13:30:58 EDT Re: [OS X] iMac hard drive failure :( http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-OS-X-iMac-hard-drive-failure-22649811 said by bskuared:

Pucharsed my 24" iMac in early 2008. Yesterday I had a complete hard drive failure. Things started going south Wed night so I ran the disk utility and did a repair. Said all was well. I got up the next morning and things started locking up and well.... the rest is history.

Made an appt with the Genius guys, packed up the darn iMac and lugged it to the store. (sheesh, it was HEAVY, so I had to use one of those luggage cart thingies - definitely not a pack and carry item!)

They confirmed hard drive failure. The good news is they have the part and can fix it. The bad news is I have to wait a couple of days.

So for now, using the macbook.

The real question I have here is is this normal for a disc to fail on an iMac after only 1 year of use? Seems a bit extreme to me. I'm lucky because I'm a nut for redundancy and have everything backed up on an external hard drive using Time Machine and as well as another external hard drive for critical files. BUT, the failure of such a new hard drive seems ridiculous. Thoughts?
That's why they call it MTBF -- Mean Time Between Failure. Some fail long before, some fail long after.

They're mechanical - they break. Even the super-duper-expensive high-end fibre channel disks fail.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-OS-X-iMac-hard-drive-failure-22649811 Fri, 03 Jul 2009 13:25:44 EDT Re: [OS X] iMac hard drive failure :( http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-OS-X-iMac-hard-drive-failure-22649589 --
You're so vain... I bet you think this post is about you.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-OS-X-iMac-hard-drive-failure-22649589 Fri, 03 Jul 2009 12:27:43 EDT [OS X] iMac hard drive failure :( http://www.dslreports.com/forum/OS-X-iMac-hard-drive-failure-22649576
Made an appt with the Genius guys, packed up the darn iMac and lugged it to the store. (sheesh, it was HEAVY, so I had to use one of those luggage cart thingies - definitely not a pack and carry item!)

They confirmed hard drive failure. The good news is they have the part and can fix it. The bad news is I have to wait a couple of days.

So for now, using the macbook.

The real question I have here is is this normal for a disc to fail on an iMac after only 1 year of use? Seems a bit extreme to me. I'm lucky because I'm a nut for redundancy and have everything backed up on an external hard drive using Time Machine and as well as another external hard drive for critical files. BUT, the failure of such a new hard drive seems ridiculous. Thoughts?
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none of this really matters :)

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