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Re: Show Us Your Papers
Gawd, this reminds me of the Cheech and Chong skit on Big Bamboo(?)... 
Show me ze papers, old man... |
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dirtyjeffer
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said by Snickerdo  :...as if you did something wrong. Gotcha. Excellent lesson to teach them. but they have done something wrong...children 16 and under are not supposed to be out unsupervised after midnight.
Fantino didn't create the law...besides, with the amount of youth crime lately, i think it's best that parents keep better control on their kids...as i said, there really is no reason for them to be out past midnight unless they want to cause trouble.
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elwoodblues
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said by Its a Secret :Gawd, this reminds me of the Cheech and Chong skit on Big Bamboo(?)... Show me ze papers, old man... I went googling for it, but I couldn't find it...
LOL
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Its a Secret
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elwoodblues
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| No I meant I went looking for a Video or MP3 I know the album VERY VERY WELL.
I still have the original Rolling paper that came with the LP
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said by Devanchya :Wow! what a concept... Forcing Children under 16 years of age to be AT Home after midnight... and in SUMMER. Geeze, can i use this law please. We had a house party down the road 2 days ago with the kids going everywhere... to bad some of them were obviously over 16. I actually APPLAUD, and WELCOME this law's enforcement. I for sure see you point, however, it got me thinking of when I was 16 years old and being out fairly late with my buddies - usually at Christmas time, spring (winter) break and, of course summer. We would be out late, maybe not till 2 or 3 am, but it was for sure beyond 12 midnight. And I wasn't one of those shyte disturbers either. The rents always knew where I was, so I had that 'trust'.
I think the law is a little crazy though...
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digitalfutur
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Exactly. The police are simply enforcing a law that's been on the books for years. If anyone has a problem with that, have the law changed or repealed.
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| Then why the big announcement? That strikes me as odd. Besides, past precedence has been set by lack of enforcement in the past. This will go nowhere in court with a lawyer.
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shaner
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I don't get what the fuss is about. If you're under 16, you really shouldn't be out and about after midnight. And somehow I don't think there's going to be a dragnet of cops hitting the street at 12:01 AM rounding up every kid they see. I see this as another tool to use when they stumble upon a gaggle of goofs who are up to no good.
Just yesterday, an abandoned McDonalds in Edmonton was set on fire in the middle of the night causing $800k in damage. The suspects? 2 nine year old boys who "are known to police". It's these type of associations and gatherings of stupidity that this law will target. I don't see the gestapo running and breaking up a bush party in Drumbo. Because they could already do that, and generally don't.
Jeez, even ol' Irv always said it best. "It's eleven o'clock. Do you know where your children are?"
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| said by shaner : I see this as another tool to use when they stumble upon a gaggle of goofs who are up to no good. My thoughts exactly. Maybe some charges for the irresponsible loser parents. |
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said by Snickerdo :Thank goodness the OPP aren't allowed to be anything more than glorified traffic nazis throughout the civilized parts of Ontario. OPP can enforce the laws anyplace in Ontario. They could be downtown Toronto and arrest you.
It's a old myth that the OPP can't do anything within the limits of a city that has there own force. |
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| said by 51019512 :OPP can enforce the laws anyplace in Ontario. They could be downtown Toronto and arrest you. It's a old myth that the OPP can't do anything within the limits of a city that has there own force. Just like a Niagara Regional Police constable can enforce laws within the City of Toronto. A police officer is a police officer anywhere in Ontario. That much is obvious. The point I was trying to make is that in areas where there are local cops, the OPP don't have the staff or resources to do general policing, and stick to their official tasks as part of the Highway Safety Division. Not only that, but the locals get REAL REAL pissed off when the OPP start doing "their job" on "their turf."
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Well, granted, for areas that don't have their own "Police force" the OPP handle the police duties for that town/small city.
Example, a lot of small towns up north here in Ontario, have the OPP do their work.
But, since nobody mentioned it, it reminds me of that Episode of the Simpsons where Homer and his drinking buddies wreck things and then Chief Wiggum says "Its the fault of kids, children are now under a dusk to dawn curfew" lol...
So reminds me of that. |
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dirtyjeffer
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well said shaner. |
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said by nitzguy :... it reminds me of that Episode of the Simpsons where Homer and his drinking buddies wreck things and then Chief Wiggum says "Its the fault of kids, children are now under a dusk to dawn curfew" lol... Now I finally get the origins of this law -> politicians watching the Simpsons. |
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idlewillkill
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I dunno.
Around that age, I partied quite a bit during the summertime.
My friends and I didn't damage things, had relatively quiet parties, etc, etc. Yeah, we drank underage, but pretty sure that law being broken didn't cause any problems.
We haven't murdered anyone yet!
The comments in the article linked are hilarious. How many of us were sleeping before midnight at the age of 15, during the summertime? Didn't we turn out ok? |
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mr weather
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As a teenager I had an 11:30pm curfew that was strictly enforced by my parents. I think there was maybe a handful of times I stayed out later and that was with their permission.
And even then it was while at a friend's house.
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Tyreman
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Its one of the neatest ways to get the parent maybe to sign as release or such. at pickup of child and IF any billable/collectable damage was done or alleged to have been by your darling..Ouch!!
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said by Wolfie00 :Aww. come on, quote it! Does it help? You know, my first reaction on seeing this topic was that it was about the inherent safety issues about young kids being out late at night. Wrong, of course!! SS-Obergruppenfuhrer Fantino had something else in mind entirely -- the security of the Reich! There is a reason we have a judicial system. It's to provide a balanced interpretation of law in varying circumstances. The statutes as written are just words -- and subject to the kinds of abuses of law inflicted on the population by zealots like Fantino. It just take a great amount of money and effort to bring it before appellate courts. I'm old and lazy on friday nights, especially when I fall asleep writing essays.
It's a fair point, and I know where you're coming from. While it's not something I can easily dig at it's something I can actually ask around slyly about. But this reeks of higher directives then just from the OPP.
Don't forget either, that if the law is found to be unjust it'll be challenged. If it's not found to be then the courts have decided that it's reasonable for a lawful and just society. Again, that's the whole thing with unelected judges which is all okie in my book. If some group of kids really wanted to take it before the OCJ, and further up. I'm sure they could find a lawyer who'd do it for nothing simply to get their name in the books. Win or lose, it doesn't matter. |
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said by Wolfie00 :Don't worry, SS-Obergruppenfuhrer Fantino will soon lobby for a new law where "under 16" becomes "everybody", and house parties will become illegal in case the party-goers might be conspiring a putsch to overthrow the regime.  I just hope the SS-Obergruppenfuhrer's thugs don't taser or shoot those kids when they're on their way into "custody". BTW, parties are allowed in a free society, but unreasonable noise late at night is not. This is another example of muddled values, because problems like that can be dealt with through existing laws, and I for one greatly value the privilege of living in a free society. Or at least it was, pre-Fantino. Didn't you just defeat your own argument? This isn't a new law.
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