 KodiacZiller
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| reply to Dude111 Re: Trojans,spyware,etc......
said by Dude111 :It all is very scary how this crap can just install itself on your computer!! My mom was using the XP this morning doing some research and all of a sudden she started saying "Whats going on??" I went into the room and ANTIVIRUS PRO 2009 HAD INSTALLED and was throwing up porn popups,etc....... (Thats a fake virus program that tries to say your PC is infected,etc) I told my mom to relax as i did a system restore to June 16th and it was gone..... My mom doesnt know much about computers or i would try to explain to her about SURFING WITH SCRIPTS DISABLED.. (Much safer) She uses IE7 and when i use that computer,i use Firefox 1.5 (WITH SCRIPTS DISABLED) as i dont like IE7 at all....... (And ff1.5 is alot like MyIE2 (My favourite browser)) Spysweeper didnt seem to stop this fake ANTIVIRUS 2009 from installing...... (Thats what is on there) Its all quite scary the level these scumbags go thru to hurt people and thier computers!! The first thing you need to ask yourself: Does your mom really need to be using Windows? If she doesn't know much about computers, she is never going to be able to put the time and effort needed into securing that inherently insecure OS. It would probably be better to back up her important docs, pics, videos, etc., wipe the drive and install a Linux distro. Then the security issues are fixed for good.
This is what I did for my mother. I got sick and tired of seeing all the crapware and trojans that were installed when I visited. It's easier to install Ubuntu and be done with it as opposed to trying to explain "safe computing practices" to someone who doesn't know the first thing about the subject. |
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 mysec Premium join:2005-11-29
| reply to Dude111 said by Dude111 :Spysweeper didnt seem to stop this fake ANTIVIRUS 2009 from installing...... (Thats what is on there) That's the wrong type of program to prevent mistakes. Install some type of white list program:

On family computers, I instruct the users thus:
RULE: If you don't specifically go looking for a program, do not install.
This also takes care of being tricked with fake videos a la Waledac 4th of July stuff:

RULE: Pictures and Videos are not programs that install.
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  seankelly
join:2005-09-05 united kingd
| reply to Dude111 I'm sorry, your restore doesn't make the machine safe. Funnily enough, yesterday I was looking at a laptop which was reported as sending out masses of spam.
I found task manager, local registry editing and windows security centre disabled; a remote user, however, could edit the registry. Windows would not boot up in safe mode. Most malware scanners and hijack this would not run. Threatfire installed, however, and spotted various normally innocuous programs (eg, soundman.exe) altering other .exe files at a high rate.
Using system restore I re-enabled safe mode, reg edit and task manager, and I got some boot time scans done. Found two trojans and 1793 instances of win32:sality. The applications and Windows are effectively wrecked, all system restore has done is allow me to get in there and try and rescue important data.
System restore might make things look better, but it almost certainly hasn't removed all of the malware. |
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| reply to Dude111 A system restore does not replace all the files on the computer.
Take the advice in this thread and run Malware Bytes and SuperAntiSpyware. You are most likely still infected. My concern would be how you got infected to begin with. It seems you don't have any programs in place that provide real time scanning. |
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  therube
join:2004-11-11 Randallstown, MD | reply to ahulett There is simply a typo in your post, »Re: Trojans,spyware,etc.......
The colon (:) got picked up as part of the URL, invalidating it. |
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  ahulett Life Without Walls Premium join:2003-02-02 Bellevue, WA | Ah, good catch. I'll watch for this going forward.
Thanks, //A |
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