| Help... I'm in the No Internet Triangle! Greetings all,
I live about 2 km east of Newcastle Ontario, just east of the highway 115 exit from the 401 - right off of Highway #2.
We've been here for over 10 years now. Since moving in I've kept an eye on the available internet options and specifically Bell Sympatico. For 10 years now it's been "Coming soon" to our location! What a joke.
It appears we have three options: 1) Dial up.
2) $200/month 2.0 Mb/s satellite internet
and 3) Bells internet stick that my household can hit the cap on in about 1 week (first tier - we have three computers accessing the web here).
I'm so sick of being kept out of the loop here I can't even describe it!
I can see the lights from the Tim Hortons/Wendys truck/gas stop at the end of my road Brownsville Rd. (right at the 401).
I can see the damned road that bell says ADSL ends at (Golf Course Road in Newcastle).
If I continue further east i.e. MORE rural - we hit Newtonville with about 150 people in it - THAT HAS HIGH SPEED.
Newcastle has both Rogers and Bell available in every flavour imaginable.
When I look on the maps provided by these companies for internet, wireless, "RURAL" and Mobile internet - I see this fantastic blank spot right around the 115/401 transfer. West of us is COVERED in options... North of us, right up in the Ganaraska Park - no problem for internet up there!
East of us... yup... more people connected than our community.
South - about 1/4 kilometer at the 401, yes, the businesses there have no problem getting high speed.
I swear I'm in some sort of dead zone that every company has overlooked. Considering our location, that we can't get high speed internet in 2009 is a damned joke (besides using bells cell phone 3g service which JUST became available and sucks - will end up costing me as much as satellite)
Does anyone have any sort of glimmer-of-hope-offering for me?
What kind of other possibilities or companies can help in this area? How can I get bell to - I don't know what - upgrade my lines (and the other 50 or so houses in the area) to allow high speed??
Frustrated is a rather poor word for how I feel about the internet situation here.
Cheers,
Chris |
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 Mike2009
join:2009-01-13
Ottawa, ON
kudos:2 | Time to move.  |
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peterboroPremium
join:2006-11-03
Peterborough, ON | reply to Freemanstretten
I meet people from up here at the end of the 115 in the same situation all the time.
There are pockets all over the Kawarthas with many more than 50 homes in the area with dial up.
A lot of towers from Nexicom going up.
Other than that you are sol. |
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| reply to Freemanstretten
Unfortunately, moving isn't a great option. Uprooting my family and kids etc for my internet wouldn't go over so well, haha.
Remember, the decision to move here coincided with my looking into "coming soon" internet :P
Silly me.
Cheers!
Chris |
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 twizlarI dont think so.Premium
join:2003-12-24
Brantford, ON
kudos:3 | reply to Freemanstretten
Find someone close by that would be willing to shoot you a wireless signal.
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Broadline Networks Inc. |
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 CanerisErikCanerisPremium,VIP
join:2007-10-03
Toronto, ON
kudos:2 | reply to Freemanstretten
Didn't read your whole post, but I've been trying to get an old colleague sane Internet access near the Newcastle area for over a year. He's on satellite. To make a long story short, it's not going to happen, so your best option is to move.
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Erik - Caneris - Internet solutions and more. |
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| reply to Freemanstretten
Ya, make some (pseudo) friends with people that do have access.
Set up a couple of these on suitable towers/masts/hills: »www.ubnt.com/products/nano.php
and voila, for under $300-$400 you have your own link, pay off your (new) buddy half the cost of an unlimited internet plan and your repayment period will be just a few years.
It shouldn't be hard to build a point-to-point link across 4 or 5 km, but it all depends on siting, etc. |
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| reply to Freemanstretten
There's a new broadband mapping project the federal government is doing here:
»www.ic.gc.ca/app/sitt/bbmap/hm.html?lng=eng
You have to zoom in on the map to where you live and click on the town. I looked at Newcastle and there is a wireless company called Silonet: »silonet.ca/
You might want to give them a try. |
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 Tracer
join:2006-10-12
Bowmanville, ON | reply to Freemanstretten
A few of the Rogers trucks, including a bucket, were working on lines near the Macdonald's on hwy115 when I passed by a few weeks ago. That's pretty close to your location. Perhaps some work is being done in your favour. |
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| reply to Freemanstretten
Here in Hampton, we get it all it seems. I have a bud in Enneskillen (sp) and was stuck with 26.6 dialup for years but he now uses wireless from »www.williamscom.on.ca/ which uses Motorola I believe.
Says it gives him a decent 1.5 mbps and pricing wasn't outrages, meaning it was below $100/month. |
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 GuspazGuspazPremium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
kudos:16 | reply to CanerisErik
20 (wet) phonelines, dialup MLPPP bonding, 1mbit down 0.6mbit up, problem solved. 
You'd even get much lower latency than regular dialup since you'd be sending really small packets if you had packet splitting both up/down.
Alternatively, does he have 3G coverage? That $30 for 6GB on 3G with Rogers is a good deal, and speeds (1.5-3.3 down, 0.3 up, 130-160ms latency) are comparable to older DSL. |
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CanerisErikCanerisPremium,VIP
join:2007-10-03
Toronto, ON
kudos:2 | said by Guspaz:20 (wet) phonelines, dialup MLPPP bonding, 1mbit down 0.6mbit up, problem solved. I think you've been programming too many Tomatoes lately 
said by Guspaz:Alternatively, does he have 3G coverage? That $30 for 6GB on 3G with Rogers is a good deal, and speeds (1.5-3.3 down, 0.3 up, 130-160ms latency) are comparable to older DSL. Good idea...haven't checked actually. I don't think it existed a year ago when I looked...will check again.
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GuspazGuspazPremium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
kudos:16 | The $30 6GB plan may only be available with a data plan, or that and the iPhone. So that may not be ideal.
Of course, if he pays $100/mth for data only, supposedly that's their cap, so it'd be $100/mth for unlimited transfer of DSL-like speeds if there is 3G coverage. |
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| said by Guspaz:The $30 6GB plan may only be available with a data plan, or that and the iPhone. So that may not be ideal. Of course, if he pays $100/mth for data only, supposedly that's their cap, so it'd be $100/mth for unlimited transfer of DSL-like speeds if there is 3G coverage. Isn't iPhone tethering banned? Not sure - I don't own an iPhone. |
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GuspazGuspazPremium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
kudos:16 | It's only banned by AT&T. It's natively supported by the iPhone OS, and almost every carrier in the world supports it. |
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 DKSDamn Kidney StonesPremium,ExMod 2002
join:2001-03-22
Owen Sound, ON
kudos:2
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said by Tracer:A few of the Rogers trucks, including a bucket, were working on lines near the Macdonald's on hwy115 when I passed by a few weeks ago. That's pretty close to your location. Perhaps some work is being done in your favour. That's a bit north of where he is.
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Need-based health care not greed-based health care. |
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| reply to Freemanstretten
Bell/rogers might have wimax where you are, you should check there site. |
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twizlarI dont think so.Premium
join:2003-12-24
Brantford, ON
kudos:3 | Its not wimax, but yeah. |
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said by LastMileBlues :There's a new broadband mapping project the federal government is doing here: » www.ic.gc.ca/app/sitt/bbmap/hm.html?lng=engYou have to zoom in on the map to where you live and click on the town. I looked at Newcastle and there is a wireless company called Silonet: » silonet.ca/You might want to give them a try. I checked out silonet's website and their map for tower locations.
»silonet.ca/towers.html
There MAY be one tower that would work... but you can see even on their map, their service seems to go around and skip everything between Newcastle and Welcome along Hwy 2 (They don't give a scale, but it's a large distance).
Just east of newcastle on their map you can see a large-ish green spot that is a golf course, and that road that runs along it is where broadband stops.
Right above the "t" in MacDonald Cartier Freeway on hwy 2 is where I am.
Cheers! |
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| reply to grayfox
said by grayfox:Bell/rogers might have wimax where you are, you should check there site. Bell has said that they do not provide Bell Internet Rural (formally known as WiMax) for my rural address.
Thanks to everyone who's chimed in. I've contacted Williams about their wireless broadband, and will be contacting Silonet to see what they say.
Cheers! |
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