Help... I'm in the No Internet Triangle! in Canadian Broadband http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r22652079 en Wed, 09 Dec 2009 15:21:53 EDT Wed, 09 Dec 2009 15:21:53 EDT Re: Help... I'm in the No Internet Triangle! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22738055 rseibel : Hi,

Coverage in the Newcastle area from Williams is pretty spotty. Due to distance, terrain, trees, etc.. The closest tower is at Taunton Rd and Enfield Rd just east of Oshawa. About 21 kms from the original poster's location.

For those wondering we use the Motorola Canopy platform.

We have sites at:
- Taunton Rd / Enfield Rd (just east of Oshawa)
- Raglan Rd / Townline (north end of Oshawa on the Ridges)
- Seagrave
- Scugog Island
- Caesarea

Rob Seibel
Williams Communication Services Limited
»www.wcshighspeed.com]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22738055 Mon, 20 Jul 2009 15:58:00 EDT Re: Help... I'm in the No Internet Triangle! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22721306 anon :
said by grayfox See Profile :

Bell/rogers might have wimax where you are, you should check there site.
Bell has said that they do not provide Bell Internet Rural (formally known as WiMax) for my rural address.

Thanks to everyone who's chimed in. I've contacted Williams about their wireless broadband, and will be contacting Silonet to see what they say.

Cheers!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22721306 Thu, 16 Jul 2009 23:48:50 EDT Re: Help... I'm in the No Internet Triangle! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22721220 anon :
said by LastMileBlues :

There's a new broadband mapping project the federal government is doing here:

»www.ic.gc.ca/app/sitt/bbmap/hm.html?lng=eng

You have to zoom in on the map to where you live and click on the town. I looked at Newcastle and there is a wireless company called Silonet: »silonet.ca/

You might want to give them a try.
I checked out silonet's website and their map for tower locations.

»silonet.ca/towers.html

There MAY be one tower that would work... but you can see even on their map, their service seems to go around and skip everything between Newcastle and Welcome along Hwy 2 (They don't give a scale, but it's a large distance).
Just east of newcastle on their map you can see a large-ish green spot that is a golf course, and that road that runs along it is where broadband stops.
Right above the "t" in MacDonald Cartier Freeway on hwy 2 is where I am. :)

Cheers!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22721220 Thu, 16 Jul 2009 23:30:27 EDT Re: Help... I'm in the No Internet Triangle! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22719180 twizlar : Its not wimax, but yeah.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22719180 Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:41:06 EDT Re: Help... I'm in the No Internet Triangle! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22717755 grayfox : Bell/rogers might have wimax where you are, you should check there site.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22717755 Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:35:46 EDT Re: Help... I'm in the No Internet Triangle! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22717307 DKS :
said by Tracer See Profile :

A few of the Rogers trucks, including a bucket, were working on lines near the Macdonald's on hwy115 when I passed by a few weeks ago. That's pretty close to your location. Perhaps some work is being done in your favour.
That's a bit north of where he is.
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said by Guspaz See Profile :

The $30 6GB plan may only be available with a data plan, or that and the iPhone. So that may not be ideal.

Of course, if he pays $100/mth for data only, supposedly that's their cap, so it'd be $100/mth for unlimited transfer of DSL-like speeds if there is 3G coverage.
Isn't iPhone tethering banned? Not sure - I don't own an iPhone.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22716503 Thu, 16 Jul 2009 08:21:19 EDT Re: Help... I'm in the No Internet Triangle! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22716153 Guspaz : The $30 6GB plan may only be available with a data plan, or that and the iPhone. So that may not be ideal.

Of course, if he pays $100/mth for data only, supposedly that's their cap, so it'd be $100/mth for unlimited transfer of DSL-like speeds if there is 3G coverage.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22716153 Thu, 16 Jul 2009 03:04:01 EDT Re: Help... I'm in the No Internet Triangle! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22716051 CanerisErik :
said by Guspaz See Profile :

20 (wet) phonelines, dialup MLPPP bonding, 1mbit down 0.6mbit up, problem solved. ;)
I think you've been programming too many Tomatoes lately :p

said by Guspaz See Profile :

Alternatively, does he have 3G coverage? That $30 for 6GB on 3G with Rogers is a good deal, and speeds (1.5-3.3 down, 0.3 up, 130-160ms latency) are comparable to older DSL.
Good idea...haven't checked actually. I don't think it existed a year ago when I looked...will check again.
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Erik - Caneris Inc.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22716051 Thu, 16 Jul 2009 02:10:40 EDT Re: Help... I'm in the No Internet Triangle! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22716009 Guspaz : 20 (wet) phonelines, dialup MLPPP bonding, 1mbit down 0.6mbit up, problem solved. ;)

You'd even get much lower latency than regular dialup since you'd be sending really small packets if you had packet splitting both up/down.

Alternatively, does he have 3G coverage? That $30 for 6GB on 3G with Rogers is a good deal, and speeds (1.5-3.3 down, 0.3 up, 130-160ms latency) are comparable to older DSL.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22716009 Thu, 16 Jul 2009 01:48:05 EDT Re: Help... I'm in the No Internet Triangle! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22715908 weales : Here in Hampton, we get it all it seems. I have a bud in Enneskillen (sp) and was stuck with 26.6 dialup for years but he now uses wireless from »www.williamscom.on.ca/ which uses Motorola I believe.

Says it gives him a decent 1.5 mbps and pricing wasn't outrages, meaning it was below $100/month.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22715908 Thu, 16 Jul 2009 01:02:35 EDT Re: Help... I'm in the No Internet Triangle! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22715441 Tracer : A few of the Rogers trucks, including a bucket, were working on lines near the Macdonald's on hwy115 when I passed by a few weeks ago. That's pretty close to your location. Perhaps some work is being done in your favour.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22715441 Wed, 15 Jul 2009 22:58:27 EDT Re: Help... I'm in the No Internet Triangle! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22671182 anon : There's a new broadband mapping project the federal government is doing here:

»www.ic.gc.ca/app/sitt/bbmap/hm.html?lng=eng

You have to zoom in on the map to where you live and click on the town. I looked at Newcastle and there is a wireless company called Silonet: »silonet.ca/

You might want to give them a try.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22671182 Wed, 08 Jul 2009 00:55:17 EDT Re: Help... I'm in the No Internet Triangle! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22654497 anon : Ya, make some (pseudo) friends with people that do have access.

Set up a couple of these on suitable towers/masts/hills: »www.ubnt.com/products/nano.php
and voila, for under $300-$400 you have your own link, pay off your (new) buddy half the cost of an unlimited internet plan and your repayment period will be just a few years.

It shouldn't be hard to build a point-to-point link across 4 or 5 km, but it all depends on siting, etc. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22654497 Sat, 04 Jul 2009 17:29:49 EDT Re: Help... I'm in the No Internet Triangle! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22653124 CanerisErik : Didn't read your whole post, but I've been trying to get an old colleague sane Internet access near the Newcastle area for over a year. He's on satellite. To make a long story short, it's not going to happen, so your best option is to move.
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Erik - Caneris - Internet solutions and more.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22653124 Sat, 04 Jul 2009 09:09:48 EDT Re: Help... I'm in the No Internet Triangle! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22652408 twizlar : Find someone close by that would be willing to shoot you a wireless signal.
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Broadline Networks Inc.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22652408 Sat, 04 Jul 2009 00:03:52 EDT Re: Help... I'm in the No Internet Triangle! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22652186 anon : Unfortunately, moving isn't a great option. Uprooting my family and kids etc for my internet wouldn't go over so well, haha.

Remember, the decision to move here coincided with my looking into "coming soon" internet :P

Silly me.

Cheers!
Chris]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22652186 Fri, 03 Jul 2009 23:08:27 EDT Re: Help... I'm in the No Internet Triangle! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22652228 peterboro1 : I meet people from up here at the end of the 115 in the same situation all the time.
There are pockets all over the Kawarthas with many more than 50 homes in the area with dial up.
A lot of towers from Nexicom going up.
Other than that you are sol.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22652228 Fri, 03 Jul 2009 23:05:23 EDT Re: Help... I'm in the No Internet Triangle! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22652146 Mike2009 : Time to move. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22652146 Fri, 03 Jul 2009 22:43:28 EDT Help... I'm in the No Internet Triangle! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22652079 anon : Greetings all,
I live about 2 km east of Newcastle Ontario, just east of the highway 115 exit from the 401 - right off of Highway #2.

We've been here for over 10 years now. Since moving in I've kept an eye on the available internet options and specifically Bell Sympatico. For 10 years now it's been "Coming soon" to our location! What a joke.
It appears we have three options: 1) Dial up.
2) $200/month 2.0 Mb/s satellite internet
and 3) Bells internet stick that my household can hit the cap on in about 1 week (first tier - we have three computers accessing the web here).

I'm so sick of being kept out of the loop here I can't even describe it!
I can see the lights from the Tim Hortons/Wendys truck/gas stop at the end of my road Brownsville Rd. (right at the 401).
I can see the damned road that bell says ADSL ends at (Golf Course Road in Newcastle).
If I continue further east i.e. MORE rural - we hit Newtonville with about 150 people in it - THAT HAS HIGH SPEED.
Newcastle has both Rogers and Bell available in every flavour imaginable.

When I look on the maps provided by these companies for internet, wireless, "RURAL" and Mobile internet - I see this fantastic blank spot right around the 115/401 transfer. West of us is COVERED in options... North of us, right up in the Ganaraska Park - no problem for internet up there!
East of us... yup... more people connected than our community.
South - about 1/4 kilometer at the 401, yes, the businesses there have no problem getting high speed.

I swear I'm in some sort of dead zone that every company has overlooked. Considering our location, that we can't get high speed internet in 2009 is a damned joke (besides using bells cell phone 3g service which JUST became available and sucks - will end up costing me as much as satellite)

Does anyone have any sort of glimmer-of-hope-offering for me?
What kind of other possibilities or companies can help in this area? How can I get bell to - I don't know what - upgrade my lines (and the other 50 or so houses in the area) to allow high speed??

Frustrated is a rather poor word for how I feel about the internet situation here.

Cheers,
Chris]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22652079 Fri, 03 Jul 2009 22:28:27 EDT