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| ok so bintube newsreader is actually pretty damn cool I've been using bin tube for a few days now and I actually really like it.
The process that I use is a bit excessive but I think it's quicker than using a web browser based indexer
I open newsleecher and bintube at the same time. I go into newsleecher and use super search to find what I need ( I really like supersearch, by far my fav way to get files just because of the speed, and I find binsearch.info doesn't bring up a lot of results if you put in say, "simpson 720p 02e21", while supersearch generally gets you it really fast ).
I find what I want, then I download the single .nzb file. I have bintube set up to auto download .nzb files in the folder that newsleecher downloads to, bintube then moves the .nzb file so it doesn't redownload when you start it next time.
After about a minute of downloading, bintube starts to play the video file and it downloads faster than I can watch the 720p content so no buffering issues.
I've only used it for a few days, and haven't used it enough to see if there are bugs with certain files so I am going to wait to decide if I want to buy it.
Anyways i'd say on average from the moment I decide that I want to watch say season 2, episode 18 of venture brothers in 720p, it's about a minute and a half from deciding to watch it to having it streamed on my television. For dvd -> tv it's about 2 1/2 mins. Overall it's a pretty neat addition to my usenet setup
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fonzbear2000
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Saint Paul, MN | Re: ok so bintube newsreader is actually pretty damn cool $40????? Anyone who would pay that much for a newsreader must be VERY insane! Grabit is FREE! »www.shemes.com/
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| Re: ok so bintube newsreader is actually pretty damn cool said by streamymcstream :
yeah but does grabit stream the content? I haven't actually bought bin tube yet so if grabit streams the content then i'll go for that.
No, but streaming of content is hardly worth paying for especially because of the fact that most content is posted on newsgroups in separate parts and you can't play them until you download and extract/combine the parts.
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| Re: ok so bintube newsreader is actually pretty damn cool said by fonzbear2000  :said by streamymcstream :
yeah but does grabit stream the content? I haven't actually bought bin tube yet so if grabit streams the content then i'll go for that.
No, but streaming of content is hardly worth paying for especially because of the fact that most content is posted on newsgroups in separate parts and you can't play them until you download and extract/combine the parts. like .rar files
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| Re: ok so bintube newsreader is actually pretty damn cool said by IllIlIlllIll :said by fonzbear2000 :said by streamymcstream :
yeah but does grabit stream the content? I haven't actually bought bin tube yet so if grabit streams the content then i'll go for that.
No, but streaming of content is hardly worth paying for especially because of the fact that most content is posted on newsgroups in separate parts and you can't play them until you download and extract/combine the parts. like .rar files I use to stream video all the time but rarely do it now sense my internet connection is so fast.
You can stream basically anything video wise but I don't use nzbplayer or anything like that to do it. I use my own method. | |
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| Re: ok so bintube newsreader is actually pretty damn cool said by imtim83 :I use to stream video all the time but rarely do it now sense my internet connection is so fast. You can stream basically anything video wise but I don't use nzbplayer or anything like that to do it. I use my own method. How can you stream if it's broken up into separate parts and in zips and rars?
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| Re: ok so bintube newsreader is actually pretty damn cool said by fonzbear2000 :said by imtim83 :I use to stream video all the time but rarely do it now sense my internet connection is so fast. You can stream basically anything video wise but I don't use nzbplayer or anything like that to do it. I use my own method. How can you stream if it's broken up into separate parts and in zips and rars? Quite simple actually. The files just extract one at a time as they are downloaded and you can start watching as soon as the first zip or rar is downloaded! This is a good idea to do if you want to make sure if the video is the correct format and region as well. Kinda like a sample file if they don't have one already. | |
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| Re: ok so bintube newsreader is actually pretty damn cool said by imtim83 :said by fonzbear2000 :said by imtim83 :I use to stream video all the time but rarely do it now sense my internet connection is so fast. You can stream basically anything video wise but I don't use nzbplayer or anything like that to do it. I use my own method. How can you stream if it's broken up into separate parts and in zips and rars? Quite simple actually. The files just extract one at a time as they are downloaded and you can start watching as soon as the first zip or rar is downloaded! This is a good idea to do if you want to make sure if the video is the correct format and region as well. Kinda like a sample file if they don't have one already. That's pretty sweet!, but not worth the $40 that Bintube costs.
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| Re: ok so bintube newsreader is actually pretty damn cool said by fonzbear2000 :That's pretty sweet!, but not worth the $40 that Bintube costs. Well that is why I use a free program I found a long while ago someone made but never finished. You can do it manually but that is no fun. Found it off the slyck forums. nzbplayer is pretty nice though as well but I prefer the more simple program I use now.
The other thing you have to make sure you use a video player that will play broken files and continue to play them as more of the video is added while it is being unpacked. So far I only found one video player that does that. The other one I use will play them but I have to restart it whenever their is a new part of the video that was unpacked which sucks. Thankfully the first video player doesn't have that problem.
You can even stream iso, mkv, etc files too. I done it before. Not all the time with iso but a lot of the time you can. | |
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| Re: ok so bintube newsreader is actually pretty damn cool Bintube is an Astraweb reseller so you can get unlimited from them for 10.99 or if you have an Astraweb account it will work with the free version as well.
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1 edit | Re: ok so bintube newsreader is actually pretty damn cool said by Siryak :Bintube is an Astraweb reseller so you can get unlimited from them for 10.99 or if you have an Astraweb account it will work with the free version as well. I don't think this is true anymore (the part about the Astraweb account working with Bintube). They must have put in a radius server type of thing to check for a Bintube account. I wonder if a registry hack could fix that. | |
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| Re: ok so bintube newsreader is actually pretty damn cool said by Goober :said by Siryak :Bintube is an Astraweb reseller so you can get unlimited from them for 10.99 or if you have an Astraweb account it will work with the free version as well. I don't think this is true anymore (the part about the Astraweb account working with Bintube). They must have put in a radius server type of thing to check for a Bintube account. I wonder if a registry hack could fix that. I used it last night with my Astraweb account...
Bintube actually connects to news.astraweb.com, so it doesn't really check to see if you are a Bintube subscriber it just locks it down so that you can not change the server you are connecting to.(Note you must download the free version and not the pro version)
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Naperville, IL | Re: ok so bintube newsreader is actually pretty damn cool I keep getting a 502 Access Denied error when I try.
On any other newreader and on their website I can login with my ID.
What version of Bintube are you running? I tried with 2.5.3. | |
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| Re: ok so bintube newsreader is actually pretty damn cool said by Goober :I keep getting a 502 Access Denied error when I try. On any other newreader and on their website I can login with my ID. What version of Bintube are you running? I tried with 2.5.3. The latest version. I was getting an access denied error and I contacted tech support and they fixed it for me. I don't know what they did, but they fixed it.
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1 edit | Re: ok so bintube newsreader is actually pretty damn cool Whose tech support?
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| Re: ok so bintube newsreader is actually pretty damn cool said by Goober :Whose tech support? Edit: I assume Atra's? Yes it was Astrawebs. | |
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1 edit | Re: ok so bintube newsreader is actually pretty damn cool Thanks. Did you do it through email?
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| said by Siryak :said by Goober :said by Siryak :Bintube is an Astraweb reseller so you can get unlimited from them for 10.99 or if you have an Astraweb account it will work with the free version as well. I don't think this is true anymore (the part about the Astraweb account working with Bintube). They must have put in a radius server type of thing to check for a Bintube account. I wonder if a registry hack could fix that. I used it last night with my Astraweb account... Bintube actually connects to news.astraweb.com, so it doesn't really check to see if you are a Bintube subscriber it just locks it down so that you can not change the server you are connecting to.(Note you must download the free version and not the pro version) setup a home dns server and have it resolve to an ip of your choice when news.astraweb.com is queried.
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Naperville, IL | Re: ok so bintube newsreader is actually pretty damn cool It's not orth the hassle to me.
But, Astraweb coudn't find a problem with my account. Oh well. It's not like any other reader is having problems. | |
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| Re: ok so bintube newsreader is actually pretty damn cool said by Goober :It's not orth the hassle to me. But, Astraweb coudn't find a problem with my account. Oh well. It's not like any other reader is having problems. I think I have found the culprit. Find you an older version. Mine updated today and it stopped working. I did a system restore back to the old version and it started working again. The version that is working is 2.5.3.0
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| Re: ok so bintube newsreader is actually pretty damn cool said by Siryak :said by Goober :It's not orth the hassle to me. But, Astraweb coudn't find a problem with my account. Oh well. It's not like any other reader is having problems. I think I have found the culprit. Find you an older version. Mine updated today and it stopped working. I did a system restore back to the old version and it started working again. The version that is working is 2.5.3.0 That's the one I tried and it didn't work for me. No biggee. | |
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| said by IllIlIlllIll :setup a home dns server and have it resolve to an ip of your choice when news.astraweb.com is queried. For a one-off IP lookup, an edit to the 'hosts' file would probably be easier than setting up a local caching DNS server.
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1 edit | Re: ok so bintube newsreader is actually pretty damn cool said by NormanS :said by IllIlIlllIll :setup a home dns server and have it resolve to an ip of your choice when news.astraweb.com is queried. For a one-off IP lookup, an edit to the 'hosts' file would probably be easier than setting up a local caching DNS server. this is true, but the software may look at the HOSTS file for any changes relating to the name of the website the software authenticates to and complain that the HOSTS file was modified, and it may not work correctly.
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San Jose, CA | Re: ok so bintube newsreader is actually pretty damn cool Sounds like flawed software. | |
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EliteData
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2 edits | Re: ok so bintube newsreader is actually pretty damn cool said by NormanS :Sounds like flawed software. i wouldnt say flawed, i would say smart.
take newsleecher for example.
the program checks the hosts file for "newsleecher.com" contained within it.
if it finds it, the program will not authenticate and supersearch will not work.
do the same thing with a home dns server, and the program doesnt know any better.
smart way to try and thwart a "cracker".
i think a smarter way would be to have the IP address embedded in the application code and have the program check the IP address its connecting to authenticate against what is embedded in the application.
of course, this would only work if the IP is going to stay static permanently and if you cannot obfuscate the embedded IP address within the application from those editing it.
and even so, one could get past the obfuscated IP address within the application code by using a ethereal sniffing program such as wireshark or a tcp connection viewer.
you would still need to know what data is being requested/posted/replied in order to get the program authenticated.
most programs that authenticate over the internet do so with plain text that can be exposed and captured easily.
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EliteData
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| said by Goober :said by Siryak :Bintube is an Astraweb reseller so you can get unlimited from them for 10.99 or if you have an Astraweb account it will work with the free version as well. I don't think this is true anymore (the part about the Astraweb account working with Bintube). They must have put in a radius server type of thing to check for a Bintube account. I wonder if a registry hack could fix that. some things are a bit more complicated than a simple registry hack.
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| The only disadvantage to streaming is if you need par files to repair one of the .rar or .zip file you really can't stream the video the whole way until that one file is fixed.
Unless of course the file that needs to be repaired is like number 30 to 50 something of the rar or zip file.
That way you can watch up to that part and if your download is fast enough it can fix it before your streaming program that automatcially extracts the rar or zip files so it is fixed before hand.
Now if they can create a program that can stream the whole video all the way through even if some parts are damaged then I will take a look! I doubt that is possible though. Not that it really make a difference now. Rarely stream much sense I really don't need to now. | |
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