FSugino
VIP
join:2001-12-04
Schaumburg, IL
| reply to Spiderman865
Comcast Chicago HD Stations - Updated 10/01/09
Here's a copy of my posting over at »www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthre···17283847
Comcast is finally starting to roll out the system upgrades, and with that comes a bunch of new HD channels for the various area headends. I've updated the list of Comcast HD channels with the usual warning that certain areas may not have all the channels listed (some channels go live at the end of October).
I've incorporated new channel info from Chicago, Plano and Joliet into the list (they seem to be most complete), but I'm sure there are errors in here, too. Please send me any corrections and I'll put them in for the next release (probably in a week). I'd also appreciate if people with the new channels can send me the channel designators info so I can complete the table.
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insomniac
Oh Yeah
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join:2002-09-22
Naperville, IL
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Re: Comcast Chicago Suburbs Going All Digitail 9/29/09
said by Joe12345678  :so will cltv work with a dta or not? or a dta with starter? I assume that CLTV will not work with a DTA, as the DTAs only provide expanded basic and not digital starter.
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Warzau
Premium
join:2000-10-26
Naperville, IL
clubs: | I'm getting CLTV on the "same" channel with the DTA. 53 |
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Joe12345678
join:2003-07-22
Des Plaines, IL
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said by insomniac :said by Joe12345678 :so will cltv work with a dta or not? or a dta with starter? I assume that CLTV will not work with a DTA, as the DTAs only provide expanded basic and not digital starter. but the card says it will work with one and it also says you need starter? does that really mean only when it is showing CSN + it will work with a dta others times you need a full box. |
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Spiderman865
join:2005-12-27
Joliet, IL | reply to insomniac
FOX Biz is part of starter an I get it with my DTA. I would think that you would get CLTV with a DTA and starter.
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Spiderman865
join:2005-12-27
Joliet, IL
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said by dishrich :said by Spiderman865 :Just received the 2nd letter in the mail today that lists the HD adds and analog deletions. Just curious, but it seems like they are not deleting that many analog channels - did they already have a 1st round of deletions on your system? We had 17 anolgs cut in the 1st round on 9/29.
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insomniac
Oh Yeah
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join:2002-09-22
Naperville, IL
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2 edits | reply to Warzau
said by Warzau :I'm getting CLTV on the "same" channel with the DTA. 53 Well, it won't be removed from expanded basic until later this month. My last bill says "On 10/1, CLTV will be added to Digital Starter Service on its current channel number (CLTV also continues to be available on Expanded Basic through 10/26)".
The above notice is all the information that Comcast has provided about CLTV's availability, which is not very much, so all I can really do is speculate. My understanding is that DTAs only provide expanded basic, by Comcast's choice. This assumption comes from my inability to get On Demand or any digital starter channels with my DTAs. (No, I do not get Fox Business.) It also comes from my understanding that new customers can no longer get expanded basic, only digital starter, and that digital starter comes with a full box instead of a DTA (and costs more). The DTAs are supposed to be a stopgap solution for existing customers who have expanded basic but no equipment. Anybody else gets a full box.
Maybe I'm wrong. In fact, I'd love to be wrong. Until I hear otherwise, I'm going to assume that CLTV will disappear from DTAs later this month.
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Spiderman865
join:2005-12-27
Joliet, IL
·Comcast
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said by Spiderman865 :FOX Biz is part of starter an I get it with my DTA. I would think that you would get CLTV with a DTA and starter. I went back and looked at the original world of more letter I received (see 1st post in this thread). Fox Business is included in the new "Digital Standard" package not Digital Starter. Thus the reason for getting it with a DTA. I agree with insomniac that CLTV will not be received with DTA.
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Joe12345678
join:2003-07-22
Des Plaines, IL
| reply to insomniac
said by insomniac :said by Warzau :I'm getting CLTV on the "same" channel with the DTA. 53 Well, it won't be removed from expanded basic until later this month. My last bill says "On 10/1, CLTV will be added to Digital Starter Service on its current channel number (CLTV also continues to be available on Expanded Basic through 10/26)". The above notice is all the information that Comcast has provided about CLTV's availability, which is not very much, so all I can really do is speculate. My understanding is that DTAs only provide expanded basic, by Comcast's choice. This assumption comes from my inability to get On Demand or any digital starter channels with my DTAs. (No, I do not get Fox Business.) It also comes from my understanding that new customers can no longer get expanded basic, only digital starter, and that digital starter comes with a full box instead of a DTA (and costs more). The DTAs are supposed to be a stopgap solution for existing customers who have expanded basic but no equipment. Anybody else gets a full box. Maybe I'm wrong. In fact, I'd love to be wrong. Until I hear otherwise, I'm going to assume that CLTV will disappear from DTAs later this month. will they give csn+ SD it own channel in standard? |
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ps56k
join:2003-07-07
Lisle, IL
| reply to djdanska
Glen Ellyn - rescanning ? - was this on a TV with a direct connect to the coax, or do you have a box - either STB or DTA ?
In reading all these threads, I'm confused what exactly I can see with a digital-capable TV ? with no box of any kind ?
We currently have all analog TV's and Tivos in the house, which worked fine until the recent 9/29/09 migration.
Since I don't have ANY digital capable TV, I was going to run out, buy one, and see what happens with the current basic analog service..... will I be able to see any of the digital channels ?
Lastly - what about Comcast pricing & offers ?
What are you paying for the basic expanded service ?
I'm guessing it is no longer being offered ?
SO - what's a new subscriber to do ?
step WAY up to the Digital Starter @ $56 !!! |
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djdanska
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join:2001-04-21
Glen Ellyn, IL
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| reply to djdanska
On my tv w/o box and also with my computer pcie tuner card. They changed a few days ago but still in the clear. I was told to expect them to dissapear eventually. Thankfully, i have one of the new dcx boxes.
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ps56k
join:2003-07-07
Lisle, IL
| reply to pgartung
DTA - for older analog tV's - explanation -
I'm guessing these receive the digital signal and then xmit it out on chan 3/4 like most other OTA converter boxes ?
SO - basically - the DTA becomes the TV control & tuner and it probably comes with a remote ? Again, just like the OTA converters ? |
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djdanska
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Glen Ellyn, IL
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1 edit | said by ps56k :DTA - for older analog tV's - explanation - I'm guessing these receive the digital signal and then xmit it out on chan 3/4 like most other OTA converter boxes ? SO - basically - the DTA becomes the TV control & tuner and it probably comes with a remote ? Again, just like the OTA converters ? Yes. Basic box. Doesn't get all digital channels. Just gets the expanded basic plus a few extra.
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ps56k
join:2003-07-07
Lisle, IL
1 edit | reply to insomniac
Expanded Basic Service -
How much are you currently paying for Expanded Basic ?
Will Comcast continue it....
What is a NEW customer able to get as a bare bones service, that would get all the Expanded Basic channels, that have now migrated up to digital - and how much would that cost ?
Just looked - and a choice of local vs $$$
Basic local - $18
Digital Starter - $57
nothing in the middle..... ARRRRGGGGHHHHH |
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jasg
join:2008-12-13
Seattle, WA
·Verizon Online DSL
2 edits | reply to djdanska
said by djdanska :said by ps56k :DTA - for older analog tV's - explanation - I'm guessing these receive the digital signal and then xmit it out on chan 3/4 like most other OTA converter boxes ? SO - basically - the DTA becomes the TV control & tuner and it probably comes with a remote ? Again, just like the OTA converters ? Yes. Basic box. Doesn't get all digital channels. Just gets the expanded basic plus a few extra. Also, the DTA does not pass the HD channels thru to a digital set - 'DTA' means 'Digital To Analog'. The best you can do is use an A/B switch on the coax feed (or splitter if your set has dual inputs)
Depending on your area, new digital sets (QAM tuner) are or will be limited to local and PEG channels unless you rent a digital box.
There are no current 'Digital Cable Ready' televisions. |
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ps56k
join:2003-07-07
Lisle, IL
1 edit | said by jasg :DTA - for older analog tV's - explanation - Depending on your area, new digital sets (QAM tuner) are or will be limited to local and PEG channels unless you rent a digital box. There are no current 'Digital Cable Ready' televisions. what does a PEG channel mean ? |
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jasg
join:2008-12-13
Seattle, WA | Sorry, Public Service - Educational - Government |
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hdfollower12
join:2009-07-30
New Lenox, IL | reply to Spiderman865
I don't want to sound greedy, but after the recent hd additions, I was wondering how much room for more new hd channels will be available in the future? Hopefully these recent additions will not be the end of new hd channels for another 5 years... |
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djdanska
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Glen Ellyn, IL
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| said by hdfollower12 :I don't want to sound greedy, but after the recent hd additions, I was wondering how much room for more new hd channels will be available in the future? Hopefully these recent additions will not be the end of new hd channels for another 5 years... I don't think it's that bad yet. When they turned on the new hd channels here, a bunch of the old analog channels where still on air. Only a couple where gone.
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ak3883
join:2005-08-20
Bensalem, PA
| reply to hdfollower12
Well, a typical Calvery/analog reclaimation removes about 40 analog channels. That's room for about 160 MORE HD channels. So when you top out at around 100, you might need about 60 more out of this pool of new space, so that leaves room for almost 100 more channels AFTER your big HD expansion to 100.
Bottom line, PLENTY more room for HD. Comcast would NOT have spent this much money on all this if it wouldn't last them until conversion to MPEG4 channels, which is probably the next big thing at least a few years away. |
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