lolwhat
We Are Toast
Premium
join:2001-06-11
USSA | reply to sokhapkin
Re: [General] Test your phone carrier.
#3 with ATT cell phone. |
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userofdsl
join:2000-07-31
Brighton, MA | reply to sokhapkin
After I dial, my Boston-area Verizon land line plays the word "bye," then a busy tone. |
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MartyT
join:2004-09-03
Georgetown, SC | reply to sokhapkin
I've noticed the same annoying call progress tones on Future Nine that I experienced during the test. Never knew what to make of them. Now I'd like to know how to get rid of them.
Anything I can do on my ATA? It is a PAP2T-NA. |
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garys_2k
join:2004-05-07
Farmington, MI | reply to PX Eliezer
I googled that when I saw the command, it looks like one of the optional flags that asterisk2billing uses for how it handles ringback. |
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PX Eliezer
Premium
join:2008-08-09
New Jersey
 ·Callcentric
·Optimum Voice
·callwithus
·voip.ms
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said by nitzan  :"r" is not on there.. The*e’s no “r” in June o* July eithe*.
But fo* us *egula* people can you indust*y titans explain what you a*e talking about?
This th*ead has become *athe* esote*ic. |
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nitzan
Premium,VIP
join:2008-02-27 | reply to sokhapkin
"r" is not on there.. |
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sokhapkin
Premium
join:2003-05-08
Somerset, NJ
| reply to MartyT
said by MartyT :#2 with Future Nine. Wow... Nitzan, remove "r" option from dialcommand_param! Let callers hear real call progress audio!
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MartyT
join:2004-09-03
Georgetown, SC | reply to sokhapkin
#2 with Future Nine.
Ok with Vitelity. |
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dJON
join:2009-06-10
11712
1 edit | reply to sokhapkin
#3 on VOIPo
Same with PhonePower |
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Mango
www.toao.net
join:2008-12-25
Ladner, BC
·voip.ms
 ·Shaw
·Callcentric
·LINGO
·Netfone
 ·Digital Voice
| reply to sdfasltty
said by sdfasltty :
I tried it with callcentric and voip.ms, each using its own ata, and got the repeating request for a pin. I got it to work with VoIP.ms. However, I had to enter the digits very very slowly. If I entered them at my usual speed I got "Invalid digits."
m.
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Linksys/Cisco dial plan tips and tricks: »www.toao.net/108/cisco-dial-plan···-tricks/ |
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emoci
join:2007-05-29
York, ON
| reply to garys_2k
said by garys_2k :I suspect that the issue is that some information can be conveyed prior to the start of billing. If there's a way to make calls via the PSTN that don't ever start the billing process then that could be expanded to connecting the actual call without the CLEC even being aware that a connection was started. Maybe I'm wrong (the above is a guess) but I can see how a RBOC or CLEC would be pretty touchy about how call progress data could be used to spoof PSTN calls. From what I understand...only DTMF can pass through in response to Early Media...not actual audio...so there is no risk of the CLEC being phased out that way...
However this would be ideal in a situation where:
-You call an access number
-Enter your Pin and the Number you'd like to be called back
-Hang up
-A callback arrives
I kinda like the sound of Dynamic Call Back
Keep in mind that both CWU and Future-Nine can already read out your acct. balance to you as you call the callback number without actually picking up the call ... |
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garys_2k
join:2004-05-07
Farmington, MI
·Future Nine Corpor..
·Vonage
| reply to sdfasltty
I suspect that the issue is that some information can be conveyed prior to the start of billing. If there's a way to make calls via the PSTN that don't ever start the billing process then that could be expanded to connecting the actual call without the CLEC even being aware that a connection was started.
Maybe I'm wrong (the above is a guess) but I can see how a RBOC or CLEC would be pretty touchy about how call progress data could be used to spoof PSTN calls. |
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OVUser
@shawnetworks.com
| reply to sokhapkin
said by sokhapkin :3) - You hear IVR, but "Enter your complete PIN number" prompt repeats again and again. Your phone provider doesn't support DTMF tones during early media stage. OptimumVoice produced error number 3. |
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sokhapkin
Premium
join:2003-05-08
Somerset, NJ | reply to Do You Like Mine
I like your domain too  Why you're anonymous? Do you have something to hide?
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Do You Like Mine
@comcast.net
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said by sokhapkin :I like your domain name too What about mine?  |
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sokhapkin
Premium
join:2003-05-08
Somerset, NJ | reply to no_one
I like your domain name too
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»www.callwithus.com |
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no_one
@qwest.net | reply to sokhapkin
Well isn't lowering a phone bill sort of questionable? Was this really meant for that or for another purpose. |
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sokhapkin
Premium
join:2003-05-08
Somerset, NJ
1 edit | reply to sdfasltty
Yup, I wonder too - how this test could be considered as a scam? Let me know a potential reason, and I will halt the test immediately.
DoNotParticipate's domain name says a lot...
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»www.callwithus.com |
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sdfasltty
@chello.nl | reply to DoNotParticipate
Can you spell it out how the scam works a little more clearly? |
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DoNotParticipate
@verizon.net
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Guys - please! Stop this very well formatted social engineering SCAM. At the very best - you're going to conduct so called "reverse engineering" which is strictly forbidden by most T&Cs.
Just as a side notice - yes, early media is allowed to be transmitted prior to answer supervision signal from called to calling party, but any opposite side (from calling to called party) signal transmittal and conduction is a VIOLATION of protocols and billing terms.
Anyway, please do NOT participate in this test as it's targeted to collecting the information which may [later on] be used in denial of service attacks or defrauding [of those who allow bi-directional signal conduct without the answer supervision signal ] service. |
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