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<description><![CDATA[Morac posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/161242" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=161242');">trparky</a>:</small><br><br>I've never had an issue with Norton products and Windows Vista System Restore.<br> </div>I've never not had an issue with Norton Products and System Restore (XP or Vista).  Turning off tamper protection when restoring doesn't help since it seems that simply having it on causes the restore point to become corrupted.  Fortunately I rarely (if ever) need to do a system restore.  I have had cases where I wanted to do so after installing a bad program, but ended up having to clean out the windows registry manually. <br><small>--<br><br><br><A HREF="http://www.broadbandreports.com/forum/remark,10084297~mode=flat">The Comcast Disney Avatar has been retired</a>.</small>]]></description>
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<title>Re: Norton 2010 Beta  - finally posted</title>
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<description><![CDATA[StraitShoot posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/161242" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=161242');">trparky</a>:</small><br><br>I've never had an issue with Norton products and Windows Vista System Restore.<br> </div>i have.. perhaps you haven't noticed, or you're lucky enough not to have had nis 2009<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://community.norton.com/norton/board/message?board.id=nis_feedback&message.id=9633" >community.norton.com/norton/boar&middot;&middot;&middot;.id=9633</A><br><small>--<br>I'm proud to be a troublemaker! America was founded by "troublemakers"!<br><br></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[trparky posted : I've never had an issue with Norton products and Windows Vista System Restore.<br><small>--<br>Tom</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 22:23:28 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[StraitShoot posted : Does it screw up System Restore? Or is that NIS?]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Jeffrey posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/161242" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=161242');">trparky</a>:</small><br><br>I look forward to the new 2010 product line. I've been running the 2009 product line for a year now and it has been running great.<br> </div>I vowed never to run another Norton product again, after miserable experiences with their antivirus line, and something else.  I think I blocked it from my memory.  With that said, I now run Norton Internet Security 2009 and have suggested it to friends and family.  Talk about getting a customer back; NIS 2009 did it for me, so I'm looking forward to the 2010.<br><small>--<br>"Honesty may be the best policy, but it's important to remember that apparently, by elimination, dishonesty is the second-best policy." - George Carlin<br><br><A HREF="http://www.wilburstreet.com/blog">[my ramblings]</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[trparky posted : I look forward to the new 2010 product line. I've been running the 2009 product line for a year now and it has been running great.<br><small>--<br>Tom</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[antdude posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/442639" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=442639');">ztmike</a>:</small><br><br>   <blockquote><small>quote:</small><hr>Full disclosure, I'm from Symantec. But this year's model is worth looking at. We focused on<hr></blockquote><br><br>This is not a flame post. But you people that run Norton, should be more worried about why your program is a such a pain in the ass to deal with or catching viruses.<br><br>I've had nothing but trouble coming from Norton on other peoples PC's that they had run on it. <br><br>On top of all this you charge them for it, and it don't charge a little either.  :hmm:<br><br>Think you need to take a lesson or two from Nod32 being that they charge for their product. I myself prefer Avast free, which is a excellent FREE antivirus program.<br><br>Carry on ;)<br> </div>Have you tried 2009 yet?<br><small>--<br>Ant @ &raquo;<A HREF="http://antfarm.ma.cx" >antfarm.ma.cx</A> and &raquo;<A HREF="http://aqfl.net" >aqfl.net</A>. Please do not IM/e-mail me for technical support. Use the forum! Disclaimer: The views expressed in this posting are mine, and do not necessarily reflect the views of my employer</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[John97 posted : I agree.  The 2009 product is outstanding.   They addressed the resource hogging that plagued the earlier versions.  <br><small>--<br>So put me on a highway, and show me a sign.<br>And take it to the limit one more time...</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 13:49:12 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Hangetsu posted : As a counterpoint to ztmike's statement, I've found the 2009 products extremely user-friendly, and very good at catching viruses.  Most of the standard virus-testing sites seem to agree.<br><br>A lot of people don't want to run suites, and that's fine.  However, there is a market for them, and if 2010 is as big a jump as 2009 was, its going to be pretty good.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : The newest non beta version is a lot different from previous have you seen or tried that one?]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[ztmike posted :   <blockquote><small>quote:</small><hr>Full disclosure, I'm from Symantec. But this year's model is worth looking at. We focused on<hr></blockquote><br><br>This is not a flame post. But you people that run Norton, should be more worried about why your program is a such a pain in the ass to deal with or catching viruses.<br><br>I've had nothing but trouble coming from Norton on other peoples PC's that they had run on it. <br><br>On top of all this you charge them for it, and it don't charge a little either.  :hmm:<br><br>Think you need to take a lesson or two from Nod32 being that they charge for their product. I myself prefer Avast free, which is a excellent FREE antivirus program.<br><br>Carry on ;)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Surfinusa posted : Bad link try this one : <br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.symantec.com/norton/beta/overview.jsp?pvid=nis2010" >www.symantec.com/norton/beta/ove&middot;&middot;&middot;=nis2010</A>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 23:49:06 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Dude111 posted :  <blockquote><small>quote:</small><hr>Full disclosure, I'm from Symantec.<hr></blockquote>Thank you for being honest :)<br><br>Welcome ashore!]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 22:18:40 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>New Feature for Nav/NIS 2010 AntiVirus - Download Insight</title>
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<description><![CDATA[Stem Bolt posted : &raquo;<A HREF="http://community.norton.com/t5/Norton-Protection-Blog/New-Feature-for-Norton-Internet-Security-2010-Download-Insight/ba-p/113827" >community.norton.com/t5/Norton-P&middot;&middot;&middot;p/113827</A><br><br> <blockquote><small>quote:</small><hr><b>Why Download Insight?</b><br><br>Downloading malicious software, typically when tricked into doing so, is becoming the primary way malware infects people&#146;s computers. Nearly every threat today is unique in some way and is designed to evade detection putting tremendous pressure on the traditional signature-based approach. By the time a signature is written for a particular malware variant,  it has already changed itself and as far as the signature is concerned it is an &#147;unknown&#148; file. Whether the signatures are on the disk or in the cloud, they are usually not fast enough to keep pace with modern threats.<br><br>The approach we are taking with Download Insight is to build a cloud-based reputation system. This system has knowledge of millions of applications and individual files across the globe and determines the reputation of each one using statistical methods.  This approach is the perfect complement to signatures&#151;it is tailor-made for making decisions about unknown executables whereas signatures excel at telling you about something that is already known (like an existing virus or Trojan). We call our reputation-based intelligence "Quorum".<br><br>At a high-level, Insight will contact the Quorum server and ask for the reputation of the package. Based on the reputation, the package will be allowed to sit on the disk and execute, or will be deleted and removed from the computer.<br><br><b>Why is my cloud better than your cloud?</b><br><br>Cloud based scanning is the new buzz word in the security industry and a few security vendors are using the term although they often mean something very different.<br><br>The obvious advantage of cloud scanning is that the turnaround time for a definition to be available is extremely fast &#150; as soon as a definition is available in the cloud, it is available to the user. Note that this approach still requires you to actually have seen the threat before in order to make a signature, a questionable assumption to make given the thousands of new threats produced every day.<br><br>What we have done with Quorum is to build a system that analyzes the reputation of the new software and files across the Internet and then calculates a reputation score for each of them. This system receives feeds from tens of millions of customers that anonymously participate in the Norton Community Watch program. Quorum automatically starts working on calculating the reputation score as it becomes aware of new files.<br><br>Now this is powerful &#150; we have a system that can receive knowledge of new files worldwide and use a Symantec &#147;secret sauce&#148; algorithm to calculate the reputation score automatically! This information is immediately available to Download Insight through the cloud, but quite a bit different than just moving the old signature model to the cloud.<br><br><b>How is the reputation score of a file determined?</b><br><br>A reputation score is calculated using a complex algorithm based on various parameters. Remember, the main feed in to the Reputation system is the information received from the Norton Community Watch program. <br><br>Here&#146;s a list of a few parameters that are used to calculate the reputation score:<br>  -    How many instances of a particular file are seen?<br>  -    How long has that file been around?<br>  -    From which URLs were they downloaded?<br>  -    What is the basic health of the system that is submitting the data?<br>  -    Which software vendor does the file belong to?<br><br>These parameters are fed into a complex algorithm that determines the score of an application or file. As we continuously receive new information &#150; the score of a file can change over time.<br><br>For the 2010 product line, we&#146;re introducing a new reputation-based means of protecting our customers against unknown malware called Quorum. Quorum has been in the works for several years now and is designed specifically to protect against today&#146;s breed of unknown malware.  Even better, Quorom provides useful intelligence on all files, good or bad, that we make available to our customers through Download Insight and other features in 2010.  Download Insight brings you this information when you need it the most&#151;right before you install a downloaded file.  We think the result will not only be better protection, but a great experience overall for our customers.<hr></blockquote><br><small>--<br>Norton 2010 BETA + Online Armor Free + Router/SPI</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[dschrader posted : Norton Internet Security 2010 beta has finally been posted:<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.symantec.com/norton/beta/download.jsp?pvid=nis2010" >www.symantec.com/norton/beta/dow&middot;&middot;&middot;=nis2010</A><br><br>This is, of course, beta software, so expect the unexpected and don't run it on your production machine.<br><br>Full disclosure, I'm from Symantec.  But this year's model is worth looking at.  We focused on<br><br>1.  Performance <br>We are determined never to take our eye off that particular ball again.  The goal is to put out the fastest scanner that uses the least memory and that does the least to impact your computing experience.  We will be testing the performance many different ways - but we want to hear from you on this year&#146;s model.<br><br>2.  Quorum<br>Which is an internal name for a dynamic reputation system that informs many of our components.  Last year we introduced Norton Insight - which used reputation to separate what files are safe from those that are not.<br><br>This year we extended that to give you insight into what is impacting the performance of the system.  We also are using Quorum to better make firewall decisions (this, IMHO, is what Microsoft should have done in W7&#146;s UAC), to throttle our new heuristic engine, do to better spam and phishing filtering.  Take a look at it, it improves security, speeds the scanner and gives you a very interesting view of your system.<br><br>Quorum is white listing done right - comments are appreciated.<br><br>3.  SONAR 2 - our new heuristic engine.  It looks for new/unknown malware both in static files and in real time and rates every file and every process.  The security rating feeds Quorum - and you get to see the security rating of everything running on your system.  We expect big improvements on pro-active malware tests.<br><br> 4.  Feeding your inner geek.  More information for the user.  Including more info on:<br> - What happened when a system got infected<br> - Information on the safety and performance rating of new software before you install it<br> - And pretty pictures of system performance - and system changes.  The idea is to make it easy to how new software impacted your system's performance.  <br><br>5.  Brightmail<br>Yes, we finally put the Brightmail spam engine into NIS<br><br>6.  Onlinefamily - a new approach to parental controls - give you a little insight into what your pre-teen is doing online . . . <br><br>I know this was a long post - but hopefully some of you will try the software and send us some feedback. ]]></description>
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