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Re: NSA plans massive, 65MW, $2bn data center in Utah
said by The Snowman  : LoL...it takes something this hugh just to Store the information that they have ALREADY collected over the past fifteen years or so. The cost of renting all those mini-storage places was getting so high. |
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"The cost of renting all those mini-storage places was getting so high. "
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LoL....an they say Medicare takes all the money....LoL.
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What a waste of money, time, and super-computing cycles. I'm not going to say more because they are probably reading our posts right now.
What an intrusive nanny-state we are becoming. 
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I can smell the Endgame. |
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nitzan
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Bad economy? not for the government apparently!
Great use of OUR tax dollars... NOT. |
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They are building SkyNet. Shhhhhh. |
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said by Shriyash :I can smell the Endgame. Some people smell this when trash pickup is late. |
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said by DataDoc :It's a test bed for solar power. Sort of prime the pump for that market. They already have a solar farm at Nellis AFB.
said by nitzan :Bad economy? not for the government apparently! Great use of OUR tax dollars... NOT. Considering the NSA/CSS is responsible for ensuring that no foreign entities have access to our secure networks, I would consider this to be a very valuable use of tax dollars. If you want to discuss waste, you'd better look at our current Congress and the money they've (and Obama/Bush Co.) tossed at worthless projects through TARP.
Besides, this is probably coming from the defense budget - so it's not like the money wasn't going to be spent anyways.
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I believe that this is the one here, but will be located in San Antonio, TX.
»www.sacurrent.com/news/story.asp?id=69607
This will be their main snooping hub according to this article. |
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"tracking system with behavioral monitoring'
Is that the NSA or advertising companies, you are talking about? 
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Good link.
( So just what will be going on inside the NSA’s new San Antonio facility? Bamford describes former NSA Director Mike Hayden’s goals for the data-mining center as knowing “exactly what Americans were doing day by day, hour by hour, and second by second. He wanted to know where they shopped, what they bought, what movies they saw, what books they read, the toll booths they went through, the plane tickets they purchased, the hotels they stayed in… In other words, Total Information Awareness, the same Orwellian concept that John Poindexter had tried to develop while working for the Pentagon’s [Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency].
Don't use a credit card etc, cash is king !
MS and NSA closer than ever !
( Bamford writes about how NSA and Microsoft had both been eyeing San Antonio for years because it has the cheapest electricity in Texas, and the state has its own power grid, making it less vulnerable to power outages on the national grid. He notes that it seemed the NSA wanted assurance Microsoft would be here, too, before making a final commitment, due to the advantages of “having their miners virtually next door to the mother lode of data centers.” The new NSA facility is just a few miles from Microsoft’s data center of the same size. Bamford says that under current law, NSA could gain access to Microsoft’s stored data without even a warrant, but merely a fiber-optic cable.
“What the Microsoft people will have will be just storage of a lot of the email that is being sent. They keep this email — I don’t know why — and there should be some legislation saying how long it should be kept,” said Bamford in a phone interview last week. “The post office doesn’t keep copies of our letters when we mail letters; why should the telecom companies or the internet providers keep copies of our email? It doesn’t make sense to me. But there’s no legislation. So they need a place to store it, and that’s where they’re storing all this stuff.”
(Microsoft did not return a call for comment before press deadline.)
»www.sacurrent.com/news/story.asp?id=69607 |
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said by mikepd :"tracking system with behavioral monitoring' Is that the NSA or advertising companies, you are talking about? LOL how about both.. 
Systems are not the problem but its more the people who run them.
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As to the present topic.......what completely baffles me is all this Storage business has been happening for no less than twenty years an people did not seem to even notice........how is that possible ?
Which reminds me of an old saying :
" When an Angel asked God where to hide "knowledge" from Mankind.........God replied: "lets put it right under their nose". |
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It's about damn time. The Ft. Detrick facility is too cramped and exposed. Seems like an ideal site for a secure facility to do what they do. |
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| said by MIRV :It's about damn time. The Ft. Detrick facility is too cramped and exposed. Seems like an ideal site for a secure facility to do what they do. Would this mean your in full support of government spying on your phone, email etc or just when they use it on real terrorist?
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| said by FunnyBones : Would this mean your in full support of government spying on your phone, email etc or just when they use it on real terrorist? The government's definition of a real terrorist gets more broad based with every passing year. Today's model citizen could be tomorrows poster boy for terrorism. I'm sure we're all regarded as potential threats, even the "go ahead, I have nothing to hide" retards.
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This whole thread reminds me of the movie "Eagle Eye"  |
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said by ztmike :Terrorists are bad! Even if it means taking away Americans rights! After all..Uncle Sam has to protect you from yourself.  said by Benjamin Franklin :
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MIRV
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Louisville, KY |  reply to FunnyBones
I don't want to alarm you, but the nsa eavesdropping on everything isn't a recent phenomenon. |
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said by Rocky67 : I'm sure we're all regarded as potential threats, even the "go ahead, I have nothing to hide" retards. lol |
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