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| Re: [NFL] Steve McNair Found Shot To Death said by huhwhat :
i'm hearing it was his father shot dead?
that's what i heard earlier, but confirmation is it's him and a woman
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"There was nobody who didn't like Steve McNair," former Ravens offensive coordinator Jim Fassel said today. "He was probably one of the most easy-going guys I've ever been around.
"Quarterbacks can be opinionated, but Steve was real laid-back and easy to coach. He was not demonstrative, wasn't someone who needed everything to go just his way or else. You talk bout toughness, this guy is at top of the list. He played with pain, could take a hit and never ran from a hit.... You admired him because he always tried to do what you wanted him to do. He wasn't a complainer and was always the first to take responsibility, even when things weren't necessarily his fault."
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Very, very sad.
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| Re: [NFL] Steve McNair Found Shot To Death said by fatness  :Not a lot of details yet, police are still questioning a lot of people and have no suspects yet. McNair was shot in the head, the woman was not his wife, the woman owned the condominium they were found in. Initially reported as a homicide-suicide, now reported as a double homicide. The woman killed may not be the condo owner according to Nashville TV station:
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The owner of the building is Charles Cardwell, a well-known Metro trustee. Cardwell said the unit where McNair and the woman were found was rented to Wayne Neeley, who worked or still works at Nashville Sporting Goods as a salesman. Cardwell, who also lived in the building, said the apartment was often vacant but that McNair used it when he came into town.
Neeley had rented the apartment for about four years, said Cardwell, who also said he isn't aware of previous problems at the apartment, which is near McNair's restaurant Gridiron9.
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| Re: [NFL] Steve McNair Found Shot To Death said by fatness :You have a rooting interest in this looking bad, don't you? No. I have an interest in dispelling the belief by many in society that being a gifted athlete, actor, or other artist gives people special dispensation from the rules that apply to all.
It is comments like this:
"People have certain things that they do in life," Gaddy told The Associated Press on Sunday. "We don't need to look on the situation at this time [but] on the fact we just lost a great member of society."
in the press that hold up these athletes like they are something special OUTSIDE of their particular skills or abilities that lead many youths to waste their lives emulating these false gods.
McNair was an extraordinary athlete. Apparently he wasn't an extraordinary human being. People should learn to tell the difference. You can applaud the athlete while recognizing that the person is often much less than admirable. Look up TY Cobb sometime. A great athlete and a miserable human being.
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| Re: [NFL] Steve McNair Found Shot To Death said by TKJunkMail :McNair was an extraordinary athlete. Apparently he wasn't an extraordinary human being. Because an extraordinary human being would have stopped 2 bullets into his chest and 2 more into his head?
You've paid no attention to McNair until he died, and already come to the gradiose conclusion that there wasn't anything extraordinary about him. I guess that's because he had a girlfriend?
I don't know if he was extraordinary or not. But I'm not setting up a soapbox on a dead body to preach, like you are. | |
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| Re: [NFL] Steve McNair Found Shot To Death Its bad enough for someone to be shot numerous times to death but it is even worse when your shot to death with your very own gun.  ( if it was his gun which I would bet it was since he had a permit to carry ) | |
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2 edits | said by TKJunkMail :said by fatness :You've paid no attention to McNair until he died, and already come to the gradiose conclusion that there wasn't anything extraordinary about him. I guess that's because he had a girlfriend? And 2 DUI arrests and an illegal weapon arrest. said by fatness :But I'm not setting up a soapbox on a dead body to preach, like you are. But not above making fun of someone's death I see: » typical midget wrestler drug murder hooker story That's a far reach dude, dig deeper.
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| More information from the police report. Their testing will go on for at least a couple more weeks. »www.wztv.com/newsroom/top_storie···94.shtml
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Aaron said police investigators still have many people they want to interview. "We have not ruled out any scenarios" he said, adding that detectives plan to talk to Kazemi's friends and her ex-boyfriend.
Aaron says a variety of tests will be conducted from today's autopsies including tissue samples and toxicology reports which routinely take weeks for results. Aaron said police are busy today interviewing people and will likely be doing the same for days to come.
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| said by TKJunkMail :I have an interest in dispelling the belief by many in society that being a gifted athlete, actor, or other artist gives people special dispensation from the rules that apply to all. He blows a .18 and gets it dropped. 
Hints of a problem with alcohol surfaced in May 2003 when a Nashville police officer pulled McNair over on suspicion of drunk driving. Police said the quarterback’s blood alcohol content was .18 percent—well over Tennessee’s legal limit. He also was charged with having a 9mm weapon with him, but all the charges were later dropped.
McNair was charged with drunken driving in 2007 because he let his brother-in-law drive his pickup truck. Those charges were later dropped when the DUI charge against the brother-in-law was reduced to reckless driving.
And McNair could have been charged again Thursday night when the same officer who arrested him in 2003 stopped a 2007 Cadillac Escalade driven by Kazemi and registered to both her and McNair. Kazemi was arrested on a DUI charge, and he was allowed to leave in a taxi.
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| Re: [NFL] Steve McNair Found Shot To Death So, he was charged with DUI for not stopping his relative from driving his vehicle drunk? What happened to personal responsibility? And how has this law not been challenged in the courts?
Either way, I see 3 arrests but no convictions. McNair has a clean criminal record then?
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| Re: [NFL] Steve McNair Found Shot To Death Here's the Tennessean, which is getting updated frequently: »www.tennessean.com/article/20090···+killed+
I did see a little bit of the Public Information Officer on ESPN a little while ago. McNair was shot multiple times. The woman, who's been identified, was shot once. They found a gun near her. They were in what he described as a condominium that McNair "co-let" with someone else whose name I missed. The woman had been arrested Thursday night for DWI; McNair was a passenger. They're awaiting autopsy results.
According to the Tennessean article she had an ex-boyfriend of 4 years who wanted to get back together with her. She had been seeing McNair (and vice versa obviously) for several months. | |
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I remember all the games when he played hurt. And when he unexpectedly led the Ravens to 13-3. | |
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1 edit | said by pcdebb :eww this is not looking good. not looking good at all. this is looking alot like murder suicide, and he was cheating on wifey. i so hope i'm wrong She just had to know....Otherwise I would think he would be a bit more discreet than what these photos show. Unless he truly was a very stupid man.
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| Maybe its just me but i believe. Its a case of a 36 year old sports hero with 4 kids running around with a girl young enough to be his daughter. He probably was done with her and she shot him. I feel sorry for the wife and kids and i feel sorry for the 20 year old girl. I dont at all feel sorry for a 36 year old family guy that should have kept it in his pants. | |
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| Re: [NFL] Steve McNair Found Shot To Death said by rody_44 : Its a case of a 36 year old sports hero with 4 kids running around with a girl young enough to be his daughter. He probably was done with her and she shot him. I am inclined to agree with this... | |
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Though much of the attention was on the Second Avenue crime scene, police also swarmed Kazemi’s apartment at the Cherry Creek complex in Hermitage on Saturday. They questioned neighbors who said they often saw McNair visiting Kazemi. Sometimes, neighbors said, she would arrive home in a limousine in the early morning. They also heard arguments between her and her boyfriend.
Most recently, she had a new black car she said was a gift from her boyfriend. She was arrested in that car, a black 2007 Cadillac Escalade registered to her and McNair, early Thursday at Broadway and Ninth Avenue, just two days before the deaths. She was charged with driving under the influence and refusing to take a breath test. She told police she was not drunk, but high.
McNair was in the car, a fact that was not in the police affidavit but was confirmed by police Saturday night. Police allowed McNair to take a cab home. He later bailed Kazemi out of jail, according to bail bondsmen.
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Keith Norfleet, who said he dated Kazemi for four years before they broke up five months ago, was worried about her dating McNair, a married man. She met McNair while she was a waitress at Dave & Buster’s Grand Sports Cafe, he said.
Norfleet said he moved here with Kazemi from Jacksonville, Fla., where her family lives. She was raised by a sister. Her mother, a native of Iran, was murdered when Kazemi was 9, Norfleet said.
“She is the sweetest girl, and she did not deserve this,” Norfleet said upon learning of her death. “He was making her believe they were going to be together and everything would be perfect.”
Norfleet said they’d been speaking a lot recently and she planned to break it off with McNair. He said she banged on his apartment door early Saturday morning, but she left before he could get to the door. He spent much of Saturday afternoon looking for her and trying to find out if she was the woman who died with McNair.
“She was a very strong, independent girl. A hard worker,” said Norfleet, who had hoped to get back together with her. “She had a huge heart. She was very caring, very loving.”
Neighbors said she had turned 20 just a few weeks ago and described her as friendly and fun-loving though naive about some things. She was known as Jenny to her friends.
Tony Farahani, general manager at Dave and Buster’s at Opry Mills, said McNair frequently came to his restaurant, often bringing several people. He said he would not be surprised if McNair met Kazemi there. He described Kazemi as a solid employee, a workaholic with high energy.
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| Re: [NFL] Steve McNair Found Shot To Death said by sailor :“She is the sweetest girl, and she did not deserve this,” Norfleet said upon learning of her death. “He was making her believe they were going to be together and everything would be perfect.” Norfleet said they’d been speaking a lot recently and she planned to break it off with McNair. He said she banged on his apartment door early Saturday morning, but she left before he could get to the door. He spent much of Saturday afternoon looking for her and trying to find out if she was the woman who died with McNair. “She was a very strong, independent girl. A hard worker,” said Norfleet, who had hoped to get back together with her. “She had a huge heart. She was very caring, very loving.” Dude better do himself in before he becomes the biggest jailhouse bitch in the history of the Tennessee State Penitentiary. | |
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| Re: [NFL] Steve McNair Found Shot To Death said by Edge1 :said by sailor :“She is the sweetest girl, and she did not deserve this,” Norfleet said upon learning of her death. “He was making her believe they were going to be together and everything would be perfect.” Norfleet said they’d been speaking a lot recently and she planned to break it off with McNair. He said she banged on his apartment door early Saturday morning, but she left before he could get to the door. He spent much of Saturday afternoon looking for her and trying to find out if she was the woman who died with McNair. “She was a very strong, independent girl. A hard worker,” said Norfleet, who had hoped to get back together with her. “She had a huge heart. She was very caring, very loving.” Dude better do himself in before he becomes the biggest jailhouse bitch in the history of the Tennessee State Penitentiary. This is what I'm thinking too. I just don't see her doing the murder/suicide thing over this. Sounds like the jealous boyfriend scenario. | |
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He was married with 4 kids and screwing around with a 20 year old. He was out looking to score some young you know what. He lied to the girl telling her he was getting a divorce. Once reality hit and he knew he had to get back to his wife before she found out and would take most of his $ he told this girl it was over. In the end the girl ends his life.
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| Re: [NFL] Steve McNair Found Shot To Death said by MuDvAyNe :I liked McNair but I can't feel sorry for the guy. He was married with 4 kids and screwing around with a 20 year old. He was out looking to score some young you know what. He lied to the girl telling her he was getting a divorce. Once reality hit and he knew he had to get back to his wife before she found out and would take most of his $ he told this girl it was over. In the end the girl ends his life. I figure his wife just had to know he was screwing around and that they probably were separated but what I find strange is his friend who he went 1/2's with on the rent found them both dead and didn't even dial 911 but called a mutual friend of theirs and it was that guy who finally called 911 to report it...But why didn't the guy who found them call 911? Probably because he knew McNair's wife didn't know of this affair and the guy freaked when he found them both dead and didn't really know how to go about reporting it at first. That is just my opinion of course.
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| Re: [NFL] Steve McNair Found Shot To Death His wife could of known but who knows. He still was not the stay at home type after retiring. He has appeared on a few episodes of Pros vs. Joes this season so during his time away he could of just said he was filming the show but at the same time be spending it with his mistress. This is all speculation but hey you never know...
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that she wasn't drunk at all but she was high. 
