An_Onymous
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| reply to shepd
Re: mlppp dynamic.. ip range needs increase
I think you completely miss my analogy of dynamic IP address using dynamic phone numbers as an example.
I will not port my phone number when I switch to VoIP. It is like having an unlisted number and I don't have to pay for it to be unlisted. |
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shepd
join:2004-01-17
Kitchener, ON
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said by An_Onymous :
Imagine you get telemarketing people calling you day in and day out. If you could change your phone number at the press of a button with no charge (and you only make out going calls, so screw the phone number) would you?
No, it would be pointless as they use autodialers. Also, I enjoy using your tax dollars to get the CRTC involved with these idiots (Looks like enough people did that that the CRTC passed some new pathetically weak legislation the other year).
Of course, I don't give my number out to morons in the first place. And if they have it, it's because I didn't say the magic words when they called:
"Provide me with my customer information if I am a previous customer of yours and an address I may write to permanently close my account." If yes, I cancel any and all accounts with that company. I do it by letter so their managers know how much telemarketing is costing them. MBNA was one of these companies, I wrote them telling them to delete my account or stop themselves and all the idiots they sold my name to to stop calling me--their choice. I have never, ever received a single call from them since (I guess they like making $$$ after all!). TD was another. Unlike MBNA, TD decided it was easier to forgo my business so I now have a free EeePC courtesy of RBC and 1/3 interest rates on all my credit accounts and I will never be going back.
Otherwise, if they can't figure out a way they are related to you (The CRTC really does allow six degrees of separation, it's crazy how hard they will work to try to prove you're a customer so they can ignore your complaints):
"I require your identification, your company name and the name of your client company soliciting this call [16] along with the local or toll free [20] fax and phone number which I may call to ensure I have been added to your do not call list [17]. I also require the name and address to which I may write your company to verify my addition to your do not call list [17]. Add me to your do not call list and your client's do no call list now [18]."
I've [noted] the appropriate paragraphs of the rules and regulations that require compliance. Print the scripts off and put them by your phone. You want to stop telemarketing? Make them play by the rules. Make them take several minutes to find all this crap so you waste their time. Make them hang up to keep up their AHT before they give you the info so you can report them. Force the CRTC to respond by spoonfeeding them everything so they don't have an excuse to tell you to go away. You pay taxes that pay for them for a reason.
»www.crtc.gc.ca/ENG/INFO_SHT/t1030.htm
»www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/trules-reglest.htm#part3
Or, when it's an international call (I have NOBODY that calls me internationally, apart from one number which I know well) and therefore not within CRTC jurisdiction, I answer "Private Emergency Services [27], please state the nature of the emergency!" followed by "Calling emergency services for the purposes of solicitation is not legal. I will assume this was a mistake. Remove this number from your list immediately. *click*" Usually works pretty well, even international lawless places know that eventually calling numbers like these too often makes bad things happen. "Private" is important, you don't want to get confused with actual 911 service.
Not surprisingly, if you bitch enough at the CRTC you find out they actually have no anti-telemarketing procedure and start coming up with bizarre ideas. The last one involved them requiring me to get my phone provider (Virgin Mobile, at the time) to tell the telemarketer to stop calling. Of course they didn't know what the hell was going on, but when they chatted with the CRTC and found that's what the CRTC wanted, I got a letter OVERNIGHTED from them stating that they still don't know why they are involved but that since the CRTC requested it they've called the telemarketer and I won't be called anymore. LOL++ |
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An_Onymous
@teksavvy.com | reply to shepd
Imagine you get telemarketing people calling you day in and day out. If you could change your phone number at the press of a button with no charge (and you only make out going calls, so screw the phone number) would you? |
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shepd
join:2004-01-17
Kitchener, ON
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| reply to shepdanalogy23
said by shepdanalogy23 :
Thats the most silly analogy Ive ever hear.
It's also the most accurate, too! 
Think about it, your car can get stolen just as easily at home as it can be at work (assuming both are parked out in the open and not in garages). But if you move it... well... an idiot won't be able to steal it because it's not where he's looking! Of course, if you didn't leave your keys in the ignition, an idiot wouldn't be able to steal it in the first place...
Just like how you add security by changing your IP address. An idiot won't be able to hack what he can't find. Of course, if you're vulnerable to idiots in the first place, you have more serious problems to deal with first. |
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pnjunction
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join:2008-01-24
Toronto, ON
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| reply to the6ofpopes
said by the6ofpopes  :When all IP's are finely blocked, Firefox becomes so insistent on sending a packet that it's useable for several minutes! You mean unusable for several minutes?
I guess this is why it's freezes up for several minutes if I start it when I don't even have access to the internet! (down, not connected, need login)
Oh wait no it doesn't, I can access my router's page or a login page right away.
Nice FUD though. |
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shepdanalogy23
@teksavvy.com | reply to shepd
Thats the most silly analogy Ive ever hear. |
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shepd
join:2004-01-17
Kitchener, ON | reply to mlpppdyna34234
Changing your IP to increase your security is like parking your car at work each day to keep it from being stolen. |
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the6ofpopes
join:2008-05-14
666666
| reply to mlpppdyna34234
pnjunction -
There's a funny story about Firefox very few have heard.
Mozilla's headquarters (Firefox) as some may not no, is located a couple doors down from Googles headquarters.
Firefox whenever started tries to send a packet to a Mozilla IP address, if you block that IP, Firefox switches to another untill you block them all. That's even with all update features turned off.
When all IP's are finely blocked, Firefox becomes so insistent on sending a packet that it's useable for several minutes!
I switched to Opera about 10 months ago because of this, Opera does a similar packet send whenever you use the "delete private data" feature in the tools menu. Opera's packet sending is easily blocked & doesn't cause any program freezes like Firefox's. |
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the6ofpopes
join:2008-05-14
666666
| reply to mlpppdyna34234
Or if you run a little program like hoster, you can block many of Googles little goodies like those below with your host file.
bu-in-f91.google.com
buttons.googlesyndication.com
pagead.1.google.com
pagead2.google.com
pagead2.googlesyndication.com
po-in-f91.google.com
po-in-f95.google.com
ro-in-f91.google.com
www.1.google.com
www.google-analytics.com
www-google-analytics.1.google.com
If you use Google, web, maps or mail, your still tracked to some degree.
One does what one can to protect what little privacy one can! |
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pnjunction
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join:2008-01-24
Toronto, ON
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| reply to mlpppdyna34234
Yep they're all recorded by TSI in case they get served with a warrant.
If you want to avoid being tracked by Google and others I suggest NoScript for Firefox. Make sure junk like 'google-analytics.com', 'googleadservices.com' and 'quantserve.com' aren't trusted to run scripts. |
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the6ofpopes
join:2008-05-14
666666
| reply to mlpppdyna34234
Which is why I never mentioned ISP's.
An ISP logs everything you do, got to trust someone right, that's why I'm with TekSavvy!
ISP's like TekSavvy will also delete logs after all data retention obligations are complete.
Law enforcement is also another matter, if they've got a court order, changing IP addresses will hardly help you.
And what Steve Jobs just said! |
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Steve Jobs
American living in Canada
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join:2002-06-23
Scarborough, ON | reply to 51019512
He's not concerned about Teksavvy but the other companies on the web like Google. |
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51019512
join:2009-05-19
151 Front St
| reply to the6ofpopes
said by the6ofpopes :I actually prefer having a dynamic IP! I change my IP address every 10 or so days, once or twice a month would suffice. It's part security, part paranoia & part privacy, by changing your IP address it provides gaps in your history. Your IP address is in essence your Internet fingerprint. It shows what your doing & where you go. We know for a fact people, organizations, business & law enforcement use IP addresses to track & monitor individuals. It's a given someone is monitoring some aspect of your Internet activities. Most of the time it's nothing more than a website you login to that monitors your page views to help them better serve your needs. The Google's of the world go much farther, they have a vested interest in tracking as much info about your IP address as possible. One of their reasons is to generate revenue through ad sales. I don't like the idea of being monitored, followed, tracked or stocked. The thought of someone following my car or me walking down the street, is very creepy, it's a very unnerving feeling. The monitoring & tracking that is possible on the Internet feels much the same way. So for my own piece of mind, I like to change my IP address from time to time, a small void of missing information, to loose the tail for a short period of time! Is someone monitoring my IP address beyond the mundane? I have no idea! One things for sure, if someone is, their job got a whole lot harder! Changing your IP does nothing to protect yourself because ISP's log every IP you had. |
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the6ofpopes
join:2008-05-14
666666
| reply to mlpppdyna34234
I actually prefer having a dynamic IP!
I change my IP address every 10 or so days, once or twice a month would suffice.
It's part security, part paranoia & part privacy, by changing your IP address it provides gaps in your history.
Your IP address is in essence your Internet fingerprint.
It shows what your doing & where you go.
We know for a fact people, organizations, business & law enforcement use IP addresses to track & monitor individuals.
It's a given someone is monitoring some aspect of your Internet activities. Most of the time it's nothing more than a website you login to that monitors your page views to help them better serve your needs.
The Google's of the world go much farther, they have a vested interest in tracking as much info about your IP address as possible. One of their reasons is to generate revenue through ad sales.
I don't like the idea of being monitored, followed, tracked or stocked. The thought of someone following my car or me walking down the street, is very creepy, it's a very unnerving feeling.
The monitoring & tracking that is possible on the Internet feels much the same way.
So for my own piece of mind, I like to change my IP address from time to time, a small void of missing information, to loose the tail for a short period of time!
Is someone monitoring my IP address beyond the mundane? I have no idea!
One things for sure, if someone is, their job got a whole lot harder! |
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dan mackay
join:2008-10-11
Bracebridge, ON
| reply to ohmer
said by ohmer :said by KoroshiyaX :Maybe a new $ service called "Ultra-Dynamic" should be offered to the OP (Sarcastic) We could name this service "Ban evasion". indeed |
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ohmer
join:2003-08-06
Quebec, QC
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| reply to KoroshiyaX
said by KoroshiyaX :Maybe a new $ service called "Ultra-Dynamic" should be offered to the OP (Sarcastic) We could name this service "Ban evasion". |
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KoroshiyaX
join:2008-08-01
Mississauga, ON | reply to mlpppdyna34234
Maybe a new $ service called "Ultra-Dynamic" should be offered to the OP (Sarcastic) |
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DJMASACRE
join:2008-05-27
Nepean, ON
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| reply to okiedokie234234
said by okiedokie234234 :
I just want a greater ip range than 255 not perday... but the same 255 everyday, over and over.
Im not getting banned off of nothing. So its just makes me question the helpfullness of this online community.
and why did you need this again ? |
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dynamic dude
@libertip.com | reply to mlpppdyna34234
Don't rely on dynamic addressing for your security needs. It's a very bad idea. |
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pnjunction
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Toronto, ON
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1 edit | reply to mlpppdyna34234
Exactly jat, a dynamic IP just means you don't get a static IP, it doesn't imply anything about how much your IP or subnet will vary.
Again: there are no expectations as to 'how dynamic' your IP will be. The only guarantee is that you well get an IP, it could very well be the same one you just had or the one you had yesterday. We can't help you with your unreasonable expectations.
Think of it like 'renting' anything else: you can pay extra to get the same hotel room/car/pair of bowling shoes every time, but otherwise there are no guarantees about getting or not getting the same or adjacent room/same or similar car/same bowling shoes. (For example if you stunk up the room/car/shoes or got the cops on the trail of that type of car). You get A room/car/pair of shoes and that's all you can expect. |
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