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Premium,MVM
join:2005-09-26
West Chester, PA
 ·Bay Area Internet ..
| reply to Acc708
Re: [ fiber tech] Help!! failed fios install
said by Acc708  :The 441 is only permissible in an mdu. Someone would have to approve of it otherwise. 2 units doesn't qualify as an MDU? |
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Acc708
join:2008-06-28 | nope |
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jeremyobi
join:2004-05-29
| the county classifies my unit as a residential unit with multiple dwelling units that's how I got permission to build it. Can I make a good case for a 441 mdu? I got to find my camera. Just moved back from out of town. after getting my degree. The units share the same garage. I found an outdoor electrical outlet about 66 feet from the electric meter that would work if I could figure Some way to shorten the distance 16 feet? Could an electrician help somehow what would he need to do???
Thanks so much to everyone
Jeremy |
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vz tech 2
join:2005-11-19
Richmond, VA
| reply to jeremyobi
read my post as to how to possibly shorten the distance. Also a apartment does not always constitute a mdu a mdu would either be a tellabs 625 or a motorola 1000 or a strand of fiber installed in a closet by verizon. As long as a drop is placed whether buried or arial it is not considered a mdu atleast in my area. |
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jeremyobi
join:2004-05-29
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So If I understand vztech 2 right. Why can't I just have my ps and bbu by my outdoor electric outlet and run a 60 foot cord back to the ont by the electric meter? my tech seemed to think that the ont and the ps must be 50 feet apart.The ont must grounded not ps right? vztech 2 says they can be 100 feet between the ont and psu.
thanks
Jeremy |
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nycdave
Premium,MVM
join:1999-11-16
Melville, NY | The OPSU/BBU can't be exposed to the weather - they must be mounted indoors... |
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jeremyobi
join:2004-05-29
1 edit | reply to jeremyobi
ok that's fine, but can i go 60 feet from the psu to ont as long as bbu and psu are 50 feet from each other?
jeremy |
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vz tech 2
join:2005-11-19
Richmond, VA
| reply to jeremyobi
The power supply and the bbu can be seperated from each other the bbu itself can not in theory be more than 50 feet from the ont because of the voltage drop if it has to power the ont off the battery. The pwr supply can be another 50 feet from the bbu for a total of 100 feet from the ont hope that clears it up as far as my explanation. |
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jeremyobi
join:2004-05-29
1 edit | Does the 50 foot cord between the bbu and the psu have to be inside the have to be inside the houses or can the cord between them be outside?with the roof ledge protecting from rain.
I know the psu and bbu themselves have to be inside , but what about the cord between them.
thanks
Jeremy
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FIOS NJ
@verizon.net
| reply to jeremyobi
Just add an electrical outlet next to YOUR breaker box. Problem solved.Ground should be found inside somewhere around your breaker box.We do this everyday.....ONT ,GND, BBP all inside yeah!!!!!Stop making everything so hard....One way or another we would like you as a customer...Thank you for understanding.... |
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birdfeedr
Premium,MVM
join:2001-08-11
Warwick, RI
 ·Verizon FIOS
| said by FIOS NJ :
Just add an electrical outlet next to YOUR breaker box. Problem solved.
OP never did describe the property. I think it's a side-by-side, with power coming in on one end to meters. His unit is on the other end, hence the distance question.
It's possible the power may be disconnected on the tenant's unit, hence ONT must be powered to his electrical service.
Supply going from his electric meter terminates in a breaker box too far away to meet VZ grounding rules with a easy install in the field.
An electrician will have to called to run an outlet from his breaker box to power the ONT. |
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jeremyobi
join:2004-05-29
| attached is a pdf drawing I'm going to try again Thursday with tech. Wish me luck. at least I have a game plan. Will move the ont up 8 foot vertical above meter. run cord to bbu in garage run cord to kitchen where psu will be.
Thanks for all the help
Jeremy |
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jeremyobi
join:2004-05-29
| reply to jeremyobi
So I Post the conclusion for anyones interest. tech # 2 came out today Much better idea from tech 2 Will have electrician put a grounding rod near the gas meter on my side of the units put the ont there run everything normally with bbu opsu in my basement. I just hope the I can get the same guy out when I call the sup.
should have fios next week. yeah I hope.
JEREMY
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mystryfiostk
join:2008-07-17
00000 | What he left out is that from the telco ground for the ONT, it needs to be bonded to the power company ground with 6 awg wire. |
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Pathfinder
Dazed Confused
Premium
join:2000-03-26
Mount Vernon, NY
·Verizon Online DSL
| Agreed but one can omly hope that a licensed electrician would be aware of that.
Of course he could do what I have seen done and ground to the gas meter. 
(Just to be certain all know that you can not ground to a gas meter although I have see it.) |
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trythisfirst
@comcast.net | Electricians generally deal with electricity wiring. As good as they are i find they usually don't know all the rules when dealing with CATV or other communication services. Don't assume anything, go over job requirements. |
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Pathfinder
Dazed Confused
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join:2000-03-26
Mount Vernon, NY | The electrician is installing a ground rod. Nothing to do with CATV or telecommunications. A simple procedure. |
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PoloDude
Premium,VIP
join:2006-03-29
East Northport, NY
·Verizon FIOS
| said by Pathfinder :The electrician is installing a ground rod. Nothing to do with CATV or telecommunications. A simple procedure. Yes it does. That ground rod needs to be bonded back to the main ground. The ONT will be grounded to the new ground rod.
It is not an option.
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I'm not as good as I once was
but I'm as good once
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Pathfinder
Dazed Confused
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join:2000-03-26
Mount Vernon, NY | I believe that any competent electrician would be aware of that fact as am I. |
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jeremyobi
join:2004-05-29 | I hope it does not cost over $500 to do this cause that's my limit.
will get an estimate next week.
Jeremy |
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