jfmezei
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Beaconsfield, QC
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Re: Fire at Peer 1/151 Front St Last Night
Does anyone know if any of the automated CO2 or Halon systems got discharged ? Or did they use actual fire extinguishers to focus the gases only to the fire ?
These types of buildings are quite different from a bank data centre for instance because they have multiple tennants and it is much harder to coordinate post event recovery.
In a bank data centre for instance, the bank *should* have a number of staff specially trained by the fire department so that they can re-integrate the building (with firemen) quickly after the event in order to perform certain critical activities (such as triggering shutdowns so production can go to backup centre for systems that don't have remote management ability, recover iomportant data tapes for systems whose disaster recovery consists of taking the laters batch tapes and loading them on the offside place etc etc. |
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DKS
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| said by jfmezei  :Does anyone know if any of the automated CO2 or Halon systems got discharged ? Or did they use actual fire extinguishers to focus the gases only to the fire ? See the Peer 1 forum above, but apparently only CO2/dry chemical was used.
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HeadSpinning
join:2005-05-29
Windsor, ON
| said by DKS :said by jfmezei :Does anyone know if any of the automated CO2 or Halon systems got discharged ? Or did they use actual fire extinguishers to focus the gases only to the fire ? See the Peer 1 forum above, but apparently only CO2/dry chemical was used. Dry chemical is dangerous for servers. The powder gets sucked in and clogs everything up.
In our new data centre, we use FM-200 gas for all the server areas, and only use dry chemical in the generator room - with interlocks to shut down the generator and combustion air intakes before the system discharges. |
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jfmezei
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Beaconsfield, QC
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| Re: 151 being single point of failure.
If you are Bell, Videotron, Rogers, 151 isn't a single point of failure.
A building that is mission critical as is 151 should have a lot of safety built in.
It is possible to build a fault tolerant building. And within the building, one could ensure that sufficient equipmeent is located at one end while the rest is at the other end on different floors.
Perhaps 151 should have some fireproof divisions within floors. |
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pstewart
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Peterborough, ON
| said by jfmezei :Re: 151 being single point of failure. If you are Bell, Videotron, Rogers, 151 isn't a single point of failure. A building that is mission critical as is 151 should have a lot of safety built in. It is possible to build a fault tolerant building. And within the building, one could ensure that sufficient equipmeent is located at one end while the rest is at the other end on different floors. Perhaps 151 should have some fireproof divisions within floors. 151 Front does have fire containment between floors - the building was designed with fault tolerance in mind, but it's up to the occupants whether or not they wish to utilize these options (which most do not). It's not a perfect building by any means though.... but then again, neither is 60 hudson or 25 broadway neither 
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MaynardKrebs
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| The old Molson brewery on Lakeshore was, at one point, going to be turned into a carrier 'hotel'.
BMO got a good deal on the old IBM data center at 401/DVP years ago. That's was a well designed facility in its day. When I used to go there regularly it was quite well protected and had huge backup power generation too.
I imagine the new BMO facility in south Barrie is 1st rate. |
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