Shriyash
Sungazer
Premium
join:2005-02-23
PuNe, InDiA | reply to matunga
Re: 55 bugs in new Firefox 3.5: users are posting complaints
Great attempt at scaremongering.
There are bugs, and they will therefore be fixed.
Everybody needs to stay calm, and stay sharp, and just install the latest version which will be out soon, no doubt. |
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Cabal
Premium
join:2007-01-21
Boston, MA
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Firefox 3.5 reviewed: The Fantastic Firefox
Firefox 3.5 benchmarked: Twice as fast as Firefox 3
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Oleg
Bellsouth Fastaccess
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join:2003-12-08
Birmingham, AL
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said by La Luna  :I have no trouble with FF 3.5. Hasn't crashed once!!!!!  The same here  |
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Link Logger
Premium,MVM
join:2001-03-29
Calgary, AB
 ·Shaw
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You know good testers are really hard to find, and 99.9999% of so beta testers aren't testers at all just people who want the new version for purely the sake of 'new'. So I expect any software release to have bugs and frankly more then a developer would want based on the 'poor' testing users do. I would expect the developers are rather disappointed by some of these bugs and why they weren't brought to their attention before release, but so is the nature of the development game and I'm sure they will address them and wonder how they can get better testing next time.
Blake
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La Luna
Surviving Ashraful
Premium
join:2001-07-12
Warwick, NY
clubs: |  reply to matunga
This is awesome, I love the right click options on the video player!
»hacks.mozilla.org/2009/06/connec···5-video/ |
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cacroll
Eventually, Prozac becomes normal
Premium
join:2002-07-25
Martinez, CA
| reply to PX Eliezer
Re: 55 bugs in new Firefox 3.5: users are posting complaints
said by PX Eliezer :said by Matt :Microsoft offers free phone support for IE. Where is the number to call Mozilla for free support? Microsoft's support is limited: "Support for Internet Explorer 8 installation, set-up and usage is available via the phone based on your locale. Customers must be running Windows XP or Windows Vista in a non-domain environment. Free phone support for Internet Explorer 8 is limited to installation, set-up and usage only. Advanced issues are not supported. Advanced issues include problems that are associated with software and hardware development, network connectivity, server-based technologies, and business-critical systems."
When needed, I have received as good, if not better, response from the Mozilla support forums (on Usenet as well as their web forum) as from Microsoft. That's my status as an MVP (mine in Windows Networking originally) not with standing. I have seen some other MVPs with a similar attitude.
The fine print expressed above just exemplifies the Microsoft attitude, toward their support. And we pay for Microsoft products, Mozilla makes theirs completely free.
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PCDEC
join:2004-10-12
Allentown, PA | reply to matunga
I had a lot of crashing problems with 3 but I've had no problems with 3.5 and it seems much faster. |
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kcazzie
One Of Jerry's Kids
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join:2000-08-13
Morton Grove, IL
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D Post... |
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kcazzie
One Of Jerry's Kids
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join:2000-08-13
Morton Grove, IL
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Me three... |
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Mele20
Premium
join:2001-06-05
Hilo, HI
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said by SUMware :If you are seeing abnormally slow start up times when you first start Firefox delete the temporary internet files in I.E. And what does IE have to do with Fx starting slowly???? Don't tell me Fx is married to IE in yet ANOTHER way in 3.5!
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Fireblade
join:2008-08-27
St Catharines, ON
·Cogeco Cable
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I went back to Chrome for both of my computers, running very fast through webpages and start-up. Though I left 3.5 on my Windows 7 laptop where for some strange reason it's running remarkably well in terms of start-up and browsing compared to my XP computers which topple it in power.
If I was able to get similar results on both of my machines, I would throw 3.5 right back in the game. I like Chrome a lot for its performance, but it lacks greatly in customization and stability(3-5 crashes daily).
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Khaine
join:2003-03-03
Australia | reply to matunga
I've had no problems with Firefox 3.5 As with any release, I'm sure that their are bugs, and I'm sure that everyone involved in Mozilla will work to squash them |
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Grail Knight
Who Dares Wins
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join:2003-05-31
·Verizon Online DSL
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quote:
Microsoft offers free phone support for IE. Where is the number to call Mozilla for free support?
Considering Firefox is a free product it is not unusual not not offer telephone support. Opera does not offer phone support either according to their web site.
As there are other ways to obtain support I do not see a problem.
Mozilla Support
Oper Support/Contact
Opera does not offer telephone support either.
Is IE somehow special because MS offers limited phone support for IE?
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Grail Knight
Who Dares Wins
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join:2003-05-31
·Verizon Online DSL
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This is just plain ridiculous and sloppy!!
No this is just how MoFo does things. It is called getting a build out to the users and then bug hunting and fixing on the go.
Does not bother me in the slightest if there are bugs in v3.5 because I know MoFo is working on them.
Would you rather have Fx be treated like an OS and wait a year or more between releases then have to wait for patches and a service pack to fix those bugs?
I do not see the big deal here it is just how MoFo handles Fx. Each company approaches bugs differently.
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Jammers
join:2009-01-15
Tillamook, OR | Firefox 3.5 hasn't crashed once for me yet. Weird thing is when i got my new computer last fall Firefox crashed on me daily. Sometimes multiple times in a day but it subsided after a couple months. Not sure what version that one was though. |
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quatrix
Premium
join:2005-02-11
Davie, FL | reply to matunga
My only problem so far is the 10 - 15 seconds it freezes when first starting up. |
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Derspankster
Premium
join:2003-02-12
Marion, OH | reply to matunga
I haven't played with it much yet. I run it in XP from Virtutalbox and haven't detected any issues as yet.
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avd706
insert annoying animated gif here
Premium
join:2003-02-06
Union, NJ
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said by Homunculus :When are they going to fix the "Show my windows and tabs from last time" option under "When Firefox starts"? That's been busted forever it seems. They changed the way it works now.
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Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
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join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
·North State Commun..
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said by PX Eliezer :As for Mozilla support, why would anyone need phone support for Firefox or Thunderbird? I can't conceive of such a circumstance, except perhaps in rare situations. I say this seriously, not in any sarcastic way. I'm just trying to illustrate that Microsoft offers more support options and avenues than Mozilla. A lot of people don't realize that Microsoft offers free phone support, excellent newsgroups and forums, and has a very good user community of knowledgeable people (just pop-in the Microsoft or Enterprise Admins forums on this site) out there.
And you're right, Google is an excellent source of information to fix a Microsoft problem. The user community has always resolved any issue that I can't, so when I turn to Google I don't have a hard time finding an answer.
Mozilla may be the exception, but I've found FOSS support to be hit or miss. Mainly miss. Perhaps the fact that the Mozilla foundation funds development is why their support is superior to other FOSS projects? |
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