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Martinus
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Re: 55 bugs in new Firefox 3.5: users are posting complaints

said by SUMware See Profile :

If you are seeing abnormally slow start up times when you first start Firefox delete the temporary internet files in I.E.
I wonder what IE's TIF have to do with Firefox. Each app has its own cache directory.


Matt
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said by Martinus See Profile :

said by SUMware See Profile :

If you are seeing abnormally slow start up times when you first start Firefox delete the temporary internet files in I.E.
I wonder what IE's TIF have to do with Firefox. Each app has its own cache directory.
When you first start Firefox and allow it to scan IE for settings to import, it will take longer if you have a lot of cookies and temporary internet files in IE. IE cache files and cookies are all stored in the same directory.

I find that somewhat of a logical fallacy though, because the scan only happens on the very first run. So if you run it once, allow it to scan, and notice it runs slow, it's not going to run slow the next time you open it so clearing IE's temporary internet files won't do any good.


Martinus
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said by Matt See Profile :

So if you run it once, allow it to scan, and notice it runs slow, it's not going to run slow the next time you open it so clearing IE's temporary internet files won't do any good.
Exactly. That's what I mean.

One thing I think has helped is to change offline caching in about:config to 125mb from 500mb. But I'm not sure.


Matt
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said by Martinus See Profile :

said by Matt See Profile :

So if you run it once, allow it to scan, and notice it runs slow, it's not going to run slow the next time you open it so clearing IE's temporary internet files won't do any good.
Exactly. That's what I mean.

One thing I think has helped is to change offline caching in about:config to 125mb from 500mb. But I'm not sure.
I haven't noticed slower performance and FF is my main browser. I only use a few, widely known and very well supported plugins though. (XMarks, ABP, FireFTP, New Tab Homepage)


Grail Knight
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reply to Jammers
I have had Fx v3.5.1pre crash 2x and it was directly related to a flash bug that has already been reported.

Adobe will be fixing that up soon from what I was told. In the mean time I just surf around it.
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"Facts not FUD!"

SUMware
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Re: 55 bugs in new Firefox 3.5: users are posting complaints

said by Matt See Profile :

said by SUMware See Profile :

If you are seeing abnormally slow start up times when you first start Firefox delete the temporary internet files in I.E.
For those who missed it, Mozilla made the statement that some have incorrectly attributed to me. This issue does not appear to be a problem on Linux.

Firefox 3.5 FAQ: Look here first! - said by Mozilla:
said by Mozilla :
Windows only - If you are seeing abnormally slow start up times when you first start Firefox delete the temporary internet files in I.E.
»Re: Why is IE8 the absolute worst at the acid3 browser test?
said by Matt See Profile :

I yearn for the days when MS went at it alone and developed their own standards.

While Firefox is a great browser (and it's my primary, I detest IE7 and IE8) it hasn't brought anything new to the table. Yay, we have an alternative to IE, yay it has neat plugins, but other than that, nada. It hasn't changed the web landscape one iota and I would argue has slowed progress down.

The new 3.5 feature that seamlessly integrates video and audio is more akin to what I'm referring to, but again they are trying to reinvent the wheel. We have other things that do that already like Flash that are in widespread use, yet they waste time reinventing it with Ogg Vorbis and Theora support. Really? Ogg Vorbis guys? Theora? I actually had to Google that last one as I've never even heard of it. Why not one of the myriad of ubiquitous open codecs out there? They picked two of the most obscure formats out there, almost as if on purpose.
No Codec Requirements for the HTML 5 Standard
As the browser makers have failed to find common grounds
quote:
Among squabbles and disagreements, specific codec requirements for the and tags may be removed from the proposed HTML 5 standard. Ian Hickson, editor of the HTML 5 specification for the World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) made his concerns and decisions known saying that without a general consensus among browser makers he could not make any codecs mandatory in the standard, for now.

Most browser makers and experts would prefer using the open-source, royalty-free Ogg Vorbis codec for audio and Ogg Theora for video. These are currently supported by Mozilla in Firefox 3.5, Opera 10 and the latest Google Chrome builds.

With none of the browser makers willing to change their views there will be no codec requirements in HTML 5 for now.
[some emphasis added]

»Re: Why is IE8 the absolute worst at the acid3 browser test?
said by Matt See Profile :

I can understand that they want to focus on making the BROWSER better, but they aren't doing anything to make the WEB better. Deride Microsoft all you want, but they have done more to advance the state of the web than (arguably) anyone else to date.

Open Source too often has to compromise quality and features to please the community of developers or to hold to some absurd sense of "openness," which results in things like Ogg Vorbis support when absolutely no one uses Ogg Vorbis.
From Ars Technica
July 5, 2009 -
said by Ryan Paul :
The patent licensing requirements mean that H.264 codecs can't be freely redistributed, making the format a non-starter for Mozilla and most other open source browser vendors.

Microsoft, which has no plans to implement the HTML 5 video element at all, is also still an impediment to bringing open Internet video to the masses.

It's unfortunate that this debate is threatening to derail the adoption of standards-based Internet video solutions. The dominant video solution today is Flash, a proprietary technology that is controlled by a single vendor and doesn't perform well on Linux or Mac OS X. There is a clear need for an open alternative, but the codec controversy could make it difficult.

My inner pessimist suspects that Microsoft will finally get around to implementing HTML 5 video at the same time that the H.264 patents expire, in roughly 2025.
[some emphasis added]

»Re: Why is IE8 the absolute worst at the acid3 browser test?
said by Matt See Profile :

You may despise the way Microsoft gained their initial market share, but they did do things that were good with it that Linux is still unable to achieve like provide a develop once and run on any machine platform. I can still run code on Windows 7 that was release in 1998. No fussing with RPM, APT, source code, etc. Microsoft built a browser that was BETTER and easier to use than Netscape. Sure if was full of security holes, but even Firefox borrowed from ActiveX with their XPI installation packages. The only difference is Microsoft made the mistake of tying IE into the operating system.

Microsoft made the desktop computer ubiquitous, affordable, and standards-based. Sure you can argue that they weren't "open" standards, but when you control 90%+ of the market, I'd argue that if you develop a standard, that *IS* the standard.
More details available at
W3C Drops Audio and Video Codec Requirements From HTML 5

"Microsoft has not commented on their intent to support 'video' at all."

Warrax

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reply to matunga
I have no problems with Firefox 3.5, it's not even slower as some people noticed. Tho I don't see anything special in this version except the forced Tab which I removed (thanks for options!)

tonydi
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said by Mele20 See Profile :

And what does IE have to do with Fx starting slowly???? Don't tell me Fx is married to IE in yet ANOTHER way in 3.5!
I've had one client who all of a sudden reported FF taking well over a minute to load. Tracing back, the problem began immediately after Windows Update had installed IE8. Uninstalled IE8 and FF immediately went back to its normal start up times.


Matt
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said by tonydi See Profile :

said by Mele20 See Profile :

And what does IE have to do with Fx starting slowly???? Don't tell me Fx is married to IE in yet ANOTHER way in 3.5!
I've had one client who all of a sudden reported FF taking well over a minute to load. Tracing back, the problem began immediately after Windows Update had installed IE8. Uninstalled IE8 and FF immediately went back to its normal start up times.
You're not the only one. Seems as though Firefox relies on certain Windows DLLs for Javascript and XUL that IE8 might replace.

»forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic···k=t&sd=a


connexus2

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reply to matunga
On my Vista 64 bit OS, Firefox 3.5 won't close fully, and if I have installed an update to an add-on, it won't reboot - it just hangs up and has to be shut down manually through task manager. I haven't encountered this on my Windows XP computers, so it may just be a Vista and/or 64 bit system issue.


chachazz
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reply to matunga
Firefox x64 builds:
»wiki.mozilla-x86-64.com/Download:Firefox

PX Eliezer
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reply to matunga
Yet another MICROSOFT security threat----

Today's new threat from Microsoft---

»www.v3.co.uk/v3/news/2245511/mic···y-threat


Matt
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said by PX Eliezer See Profile :

Today's new threat from Microsoft---

»www.v3.co.uk/v3/news/2245511/mic···y-threat
You mean yesterday's: »Critical: 0day Microsoft DirectShow Vulnerability exploited


Blue2
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reply to matunga
Re: 55 bugs in new Firefox 3.5: users are posting complaints

Yes, I guess he meant to show that at the exact same moment that Mozilla was srambling to patch some Firefox bugs, MS was calmly reporting an unpatched zero day exploit.

From the OP's quoted article: "Mozilla has set a community "BugDay" for July 7 to address the bugs in open-source Firefox 3.5 ... Firefox 3.5 was released to the public on June 30."

So, a full seven days later. YAWN.


Matt
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said by Blue2 See Profile :

Yes, I guess he meant to show that at the exact same moment that Mozilla was srambling to patch some Firefox bugs, MS was calmly reporting an unpatched zero day exploit.
I hate e-peen contests, especially when it comes to product comparisons.

SUMware
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Re: Yet another MICROSOFT security threat----

From PC Advisor
July 7, 2009 -
quote:
Microsoft yesterday confirmed that hackers are exploiting an unpatched bug in DirectX. The 'browse and get owned' attack on Internet Explorer (IE) is the second such exploit in six weeks.

Microsoft's security team issued an advisory late yesterday acknowledging reports of in-the-wild attacks and providing more information about who is vulnerable.

Earlier today, security researchers at a pair of Danish firms had announced that thousands of legitimate websites hacked over the weekend were conducting drive-by attacks on IE users with an exploit of a critical unpatched vulnerability in Windows' DirectShow, part of DirectX.

"A browse-and-get-owned attack vector exists," Chengyun Chu, of the Microsoft Security Response Center's engineering team, said in a blog post.

"A user needs to be lured to navigate to a malicious website or a compromised legitimate website to be affected ... [but] no further user interaction is needed."

Although Microsoft promised it would patch the bug, a company spokesman declined to say whether that patch would be ready by July 14, the next regularly-scheduled security update release day.
[some emphasis added]

Secunia rates the vulnerability "extremely critical," the highest rating on its five-tier severity scale.


Blue2
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Re: 55 bugs in new Firefox 3.5: users are posting complaints

said by Matt See Profile :

said by Blue2 See Profile :

Yes, I guess he meant to show that at the exact same moment that Mozilla was srambling to patch some Firefox bugs, MS was calmly reporting an unpatched zero day exploit.
I hate e-peen contests, especially when it comes to product comparisons.
And I hate errors of omission in posts. The OP's post neglected to mention that fixes would be addressed in a week's time, as well as that IE has a far bigger issue that has yet to be addressed. So the post was misleading, whether intentional or otherwise.

I haven't stated which browser I use or support.

Ftlgh

join:2002-10-03
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reply to matunga
Since the update, I can no longer use the paid links at the top of Google search. It doesn't do anything...If I put it into a new tab, it opens blank and is done. I have to copy the link and paste it into the address bar and remove the google url part.
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