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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/737689"><b>GuruGuy</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  gregftlaud <A HREF="/useremail/u/1659126"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Anyone else seeing an occasional right click bug? A few times when trying to use the right click to bring up the shortcut menu to either save a page or copy text the right click doesnt bring up the menu. Have to restart the browser to get right click to work but then after serveral hours it stops working again. Right click working fine on all other browsers. <br> </div>That's one of the bugs I've noticed<br><small>--<br>GuruGuy</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1531837"><b>Its a Secret</b></A> : No, I've never had a problem with right-click. Do you have those pages added to NS (if you use it)?]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1659126"><b>gregftlaud</b></A> : Anyone else seeing an occasional right click bug? A few times when trying to use the right click to bring up the shortcut menu to either save a page or copy text the right click doesnt bring up the menu. Have to restart the browser to get right click to work but then after serveral hours it stops working again. Right click working fine on all other browsers. ]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 00:48:26 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/403861"><b>Mele20</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by gratou :</small><br><br>Don't see anywhere to ask a question, complain or give any type of input on your link, danny9. <br>This page is the web equivalent of "if you want to be shown contempt, please type 1, if you want no help please type 2 etc" phone numbers we all know too well.<br> </div>You didn't quote the post and this is a long thread so I don't want to look for it but if you are referring to Mozilla's web help site, it is very strangely organized but you can ask a question, search the knowledge base, etc. I get irritated there because they want you to list every extension in any question post.  Plus, they want it to be more or less one on one question which I also don't care for much. I have had a few questions satisfactorily answered there but not quickly and usually the answerers are people I know who are regulars at Mozillazine forums.  Why Mozilla didn't adopt Mozillazine as their official help I don't know and I think it was a bad decision.<br><small>--<br>"The same ferocity that our founders devoted to protect the freedom and independence of the press is now appropriate for our defense of the freedom of the internet. The stakes are the same: the survival of our Republic". Al Gore, The Assault on Reason</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 00:01:08 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/737689"><b>GuruGuy</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Mele20 <A HREF="/useremail/u/403861"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  GuruGuy <A HREF="/useremail/u/737689"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br> Mozilla and IE sharing temp folders?  LOL<br>That's hard for me to believe too!<br></div>Whew! One of the longest bugs I have read but I finally understand why that Mod said to delete IE temp files if there is a noticable delay when starting Fx 3.5 cold. The delay is due to NSS collecting entrophy by walking the Windows file system when Fx is first started. In Fx3, the files walked are not the ones walked in 3.5. In 3.5 not only do you have to clear the IE temp folder (if having problems with a slow Fx start) but you need to also clear Recycle bin (good thing I don't have 3.5 because I rarely empty my Recyle bin and I bet my start time would horrible), Windows Temp folder and others. <br><br>The bug is a fascinating read and all the big Mozilla developers are posting in it as this bug is high priority. There are Fx test builds available through the links in the bug for anyone who has the problem and is willing to test the various builds. There is a patch at version 3 already. Certain Antivirus realtime scanners are also apparently implicated in the slow start and before I even saw that one of them is Avira I thought to myself "I bet Guard is going nuts scanning all these files that are being walked by NSS" and sure enough Avira and Kaspersky are name as possibly contributing to the slow start. Avast seems ok. <br><br>I am so glad I didn't upgrade on my virtual XP machine to 3.5. I checked my recyle bin just now on that computer and it was gigantic (I did clear it) and my Temp folder was huge and I had a terrible time trying to clear it. Besides TIF in IE needing to be cleared, history is implicated. I never clear history in my browsers and that would have really ticked me off if I needed to clear IE history just so Fx would not take several minutes to start. <br><br>&raquo;<small>https</small>://<A HREF="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=501605">bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=501605</A><br> </div>Damn Mele,<br>That is one LONG bug list for sure!  I read the whole thing and you hit the nail on the head with your summary.  <br><br>What I don't see mentioned though, is when 3.5.1 will finally be released???<br><small>--<br>GuruGuy</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 09:08:05 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> : Don't see anywhere to ask a question, complain or give any type of input on your link, danny9. <br>This page is the web equivalent of "if you want to be shown contempt, please type 1, if you want no help please type 2 etc" phone numbers we all know too well.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 07:18:38 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/403861"><b>Mele20</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  GuruGuy <A HREF="/useremail/u/737689"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br> Mozilla and IE sharing temp folders?  LOL<br>That's hard for me to believe too!<br></div>Whew! One of the longest bugs I have read but I finally understand why that Mod said to delete IE temp files if there is a noticeable delay when starting Fx 3.5 cold. The delay is due to NSS collecting entropy by walking the Windows file system when Fx is first started. In Fx3, the files walked are not the ones walked in 3.5. In 3.5 not only do you have to clear the IE temp folder (if having problems with a slow Fx start) but you need to also clear Recycle bin (good thing I don't have 3.5 because I rarely empty my Recycle bin and I bet my start time would horrible), Windows Temp folder and others.<br><br>The bug is a fascinating read and all the big Mozilla developers are posting in it as this bug is high priority. There are Fx test builds available through the links in the bug for anyone who has the problem and is willing to test the various builds. There is a patch at version 3 already. Certain Antivirus realtime scanners are also apparently implicated in the slow start and before I even saw that one of them is Avira I thought to myself "I bet Guard is going nuts scanning all these files that are being walked by NSS" and sure enough Avira and Kaspersky are name as possibly contributing to the slow start. Avast seems ok.<br><br>I am so glad I didn't upgrade on my virtual XP machine to 3.5. I checked my recycle bin just now on that computer and it was gigantic (I did clear it) and my Temp folder was huge and I had a terrible time trying to clear it. Besides TIF in IE needing to be cleared, history is implicated. I never clear history in my browsers and that would have really ticked me off if I needed to clear IE history just so Fx would not take several minutes to start.<br><br>&raquo;<small>https</small>://<A HREF="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=501605">bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=501605</A><br><small>--<br>"The same ferocity that our founders devoted to protect the freedom and independence of the press is now appropriate for our defense of the freedom of the internet. The stakes are the same: the survival of our Republic". Al Gore, The Assault on Reason</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 06:17:38 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1383253"><b>Reimer</b></A> : haven't had any problems here but I've also been using the betas and nightlies on occasion. <br><br>I even use over 30 extensions and I still don't remember the last time it's crashed aside from a tabmix plus incompatibility that's been fixed with the latest dev build]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 23:44:18 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1021645"><b>antiphishing</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Turbocpe <A HREF="/useremail/u/544328"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>The FireFox animated icon in the tab will spin forever. Nothing else happens, like actually loading the webpage I requested.<br><br> </div>I get the annoying spinning animated icon (Vista  SP1) and hanging of the browser ( Firefox 3.5 install over  3.1x)  when my McAfee  Anti-virus  does it updates. When the update is done, the browser goes back to normal.<br><br>I might add that Windows does not hang when this occurs and the same problem happened using Firefox 3.1x. with the same extensions<br><br>I believe this is a memory issue with bloated Microsoft Vista , not with Firefox.  <br><small>--<br><b><br>Specializing in "takes downs" of phishing and advance fee scams<br>Send your Phishing/Advance fee scams to: <A HREF="mailto:phish@antihotmail.com">phish@antihotmail.com</a> <br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.phishtank.com" >www.phishtank.com</A><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.fraudwatchers.org" >www.fraudwatchers.org</A><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://mozilla.com" >mozilla.com</A><br></b></small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 22:37:33 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1021645"><b>antiphishing</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Its a Secret <A HREF="/useremail/u/1531837"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>You may well be right. However, I would never choose that bloated POS IE8 unless it was my only choice. FF got it right when they gave users options for the extensions they want to load. MS should take note.<br> </div>That is what makes Firefox better then IE, the extensions and themes. You will never see this kind of option  with any Microsoft  software now or in the future . It's a damn shame that the majority of  computer users have to install Firefox on such a vulnerable platform like  Microsoft Windows.   <br><small>--<br><b><br>Specializing in "takes downs" of phishing and advance fee scams<br>Send your Phishing/Advance fee scams to: <A HREF="mailto:phish@antihotmail.com">phish@antihotmail.com</a> <br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.phishtank.com" >www.phishtank.com</A><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.fraudwatchers.org" >www.fraudwatchers.org</A><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://mozilla.com" >mozilla.com</A><br></b></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1531837"><b>Its a Secret</b></A> : You may well be right. However, I would never choose that bloated POS IE8 unless it was my only choice. FF got it right when they gave users options for the extensions they want to load. MS should take note.<br><small>--<br>"In the future, that which is not mandatory will be illegal"<br>"Nobody knows the age of the human race, but everybody agrees that it is old enough to know better" - Anonymous</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 22:07:42 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1021645"><b>antiphishing</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  GuruGuy <A HREF="/useremail/u/737689"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>I'm using Vista too and have had tons of issues on three pc's with the new FF.  Can't wait for the update.  Been a long time user of FF until now.<br> </div>I ofter wonder if Microsoft doesn't change it Windows code in both XP and Vista  when installing updates to intentionally  sabotage  Firefox new installs so that they don't work correctly.  <br><br>Who's  to say that Microsoft isn't trying to maliciously  conspire against their   browser competitor so that computers users will  install IE 8 and not use Firefox 3.5.<br><br>I can't wait for the responses on this post!  :D<br><small>--<br><b><br>Specializing in "takes downs" of phishing and advance fee scams<br>Send your Phishing/Advance fee scams to: <A HREF="mailto:phish@antihotmail.com">phish@antihotmail.com</a> <br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.phishtank.com" >www.phishtank.com</A><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.fraudwatchers.org" >www.fraudwatchers.org</A><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://mozilla.com" >mozilla.com</A><br></b></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1181003"><b>rcdailey</b></A> : Thanks for the tip.  It really did seem to speedup loading of Firefox 3.5.  <br><small>--<br>In reality, there is no such thing as a clean human being.</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/769760"><b>Derspankster</b></A> : I'm using it with XP in Virtualbox. haven't encountered any issues as yet. <br><small>--<br>my site: &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.lairdslair.com/" >www.lairdslair.com/</A></small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 16:21:00 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1249491"><b>Phil75070</b></A> : No problems here on Vista SP2 with a variety of add-ons, but all have been deemed to be compatible.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 16:05:36 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1362770"><b>Pentangle</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  SUMware <A HREF="/useremail/u/634007"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  antiphishing <A HREF="/useremail/u/1021645"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>  :</small><br><br>Firefox 3.5  works great for me, and I have not had any major problems, but then again I am using Vista. :( </div>Firefox 3.5  works great for me, and I have not had any problems, but then again I am using Linux. :) <br> </div>Firefox 3.5  works great for me, and I have not had any problems, it loads quickly and is smooth as silk on XP Pro SP3.<br><small>--<br><i><b>Knowledge is learning something new every day. Wisdom is letting go of something every day.</i></b><br></small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 15:52:38 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/634007"><b>SUMware</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  antiphishing <A HREF="/useremail/u/1021645"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Firefox 3.5  works great for me, and I have not had any major problems, but then again I am using Vista. :( </div>Firefox 3.5  works great for me, and I have not had any problems, but then again I am using Linux. :) ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/737689"><b>GuruGuy</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  antiphishing <A HREF="/useremail/u/1021645"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  matunga <A HREF="/useremail/u/847301"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Mozilla is scrambling to fix bugs in its just-released Firefox 3.5 browser. Users are posting complaints about problems across the Web.<br>Those problems include longer load times and crashes linked to the TraceMonkey JavaScript engine. The browser also reportedly has problems with Windows XP. Mozilla has set a community "BugDay" for July 7 to address the bugs in open-source Firefox 3.5.<br>Firefox 3.5.1 is expected to be released later this month to correct some of the <b>55 published bugs</b>  :o<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.newsfactor.com/story.xhtml?story_id=003000004CAX&full_skip=1" >www.newsfactor.com/story.xhtml?s&middot;&middot;&middot;l_skip=1</A><br> </div>What !!! <br><br>Firefox 3.5  works great for me, and I have not had any major problems, but then again I am using Vista. :(<br> </div>I'm using Vista too and have had tons of issues on three pc's with the new FF.  Can't wait for the update.  Been a long time user of FF until now.<br><small>--<br>GuruGuy</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1021645"><b>antiphishing</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  matunga <A HREF="/useremail/u/847301"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Mozilla is scrambling to fix bugs in its just-released Firefox 3.5 browser. Users are posting complaints about problems across the Web.<br>Those problems include longer load times and crashes linked to the TraceMonkey JavaScript engine. The browser also reportedly has problems with Windows XP. Mozilla has set a community "BugDay" for July 7 to address the bugs in open-source Firefox 3.5.<br>Firefox 3.5.1 is expected to be released later this month to correct some of the <b>55 published bugs</b>  :o<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.newsfactor.com/story.xhtml?story_id=003000004CAX&full_skip=1" >www.newsfactor.com/story.xhtml?s&middot;&middot;&middot;l_skip=1</A><br> </div>What !!! <br><br>Firefox 3.5  works great for me, and I have not had any major problems, but then again I am using Vista. :(<br><small>--<br><b><br>Specializing in "takes downs" of phishing and advance fee scams<br>Send your Phishing/Advance fee scams to: <A HREF="mailto:phish@antihotmail.com">phish@antihotmail.com</a> <br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.phishtank.com" >www.phishtank.com</A><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.fraudwatchers.org" >www.fraudwatchers.org</A><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://mozilla.com" >mozilla.com</A><br></b></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/158097"><b>georgermct</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  skyroket <A HREF="/useremail/u/408869"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Users are posting complaints.  Enough said.  Do you even know where to go to complain about IE?  Good luck with that.<br> </div>&raquo;<A HREF="http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/dd550700.aspx" >answers.microsoft.com/en-us/dd550700.aspx</A><br><small>--<br>OOL Subscriber Since - 10/18/00 . . . iO Subscriber Since - 11/22/04</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/634007"><b>SUMware</b></A> : For Windows, Linux and Mac OSX -<br><br>   <blockquote><small>said by Web Upd8 :</small><hr>Since version 3.0, Firefox changed the way it saves your bookmarks, history, cookies, passwords and so on - it now uses SQLite databases. This has some advantages but also disadvantages because over time, the databases are growing in size and become fragmented and this affects the time Firefox needs to start. But the SQLite databases can be optimized which improves the Firefox startup time and from my experience, also improves the awasomebar performance which becomes much more responsive and faster!<br><br>How to optimize the SQLite databases in Firefox:<hr></blockquote><br><br>Visit site <A HREF="http://webupd8.blogspot.com/2009/07/increase-firefox-3-perormance-by.html">here</a>.<br>Note: Verify that the specified system locations are accurate for you.<br><br>As suggested, I prepared a simple script that automagically executes at each boot.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 09:33:36 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1181003"><b>rcdailey</b></A> : In addition to that, I use CCleaner to clear out unwanted junk related to both IE and Firefox.  <br><small>--<br>In reality, there is no such thing as a clean human being.</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 04:06:40 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/403861"><b>Mele20</b></A> : Yep, you are right about having to set IE to clear TIF on closing...I'd forgotten since I have set it that way for as long as I can remember. (I also remember all the threads here in Microsoft forum about how IE 5 and 6 would not clear TIF on closing even when that was checked and the suggestions for fixing it).<br><small>--<br>"The same ferocity that our founders devoted to protect the freedom and independence of the press is now appropriate for our defense of the freedom of the internet. The stakes are the same: the survival of our Republic". Al Gore, The Assault on Reason</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 03:59:59 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/737689"><b>GuruGuy</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Mele20 <A HREF="/useremail/u/403861"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>That mozillazine thread was about Fx <b>2</b>.  I don't think that has much relevance to Fx 3 and 3.5 as 3 is hugely different from 2 in a lot ways. It could be the reason but until I read some threads where users of Fx 3.5 are claiming the shared dll's in IE8 and Fx 3.5 are the sole cause of the slowness in starting Fx 3.5 for many...well, I will remain skeptical until then.<br><br>As for "Mozilla" saying to clear IE temp files if Fx 3.5 starts slowly that was a MOD at the Mozillazine forums that said that. Mozillazine has NO affiliation with Mozilla and does not speak for Mozilla developers who seldom, if ever, read those forums (except for two who read the Fx Features and SeaMonkey Features because they are trying to port extensions from Fx to SeaMonkey in their spare time). <br><br>The thread at Mozillazine forums where the Mod suggested this as a remedy is locked so I could not ask in that thread. I started a new thread because I am thoroughly confused as to why Fx is somehow using IE's temp folder. That locked thread said nothing about IE8. It states that Fx 3.5 slowness in starting is likely due to any version of IE's temp files if they have not been cleared before starting Fx 3.5. That doesn't make any sense to me.  Besides, the temp files in IE 7 and 8 usually clear themselves when IE is closed. They don't frequently in IE6 and below but I haven't seen them build up in ver 7 or 8 so for many reasons this "solution" doesn't make sense to me.  Besides wouldn't the obvious solution be to limit the size of the TIF to 50MB? If you make it lower IE complains which is a shame as with other browsers you can set it at Zero which I always do.  But 50MB is not large and I just can't see how that can keep Fx 3.5 from starting quickly.<br> </div>Mozilla and IE sharing temp folders?  LOL<br>That's hard for me to believe too!<br><br>One note though, IE doesn't clear temp folders by default.  You have to set it to do so:<br><br>Internet options, advanced tab, scroll down........, Check "Empty Temporary Internet Files Folder when browser is closed"<br><small>--<br>GuruGuy</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 03:43:32 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/403861"><b>Mele20</b></A> : That mozillazine thread was about Fx <b>2</b>.  I don't think that has much relevance to Fx 3 and 3.5 as 3 is hugely different from 2 in a lot ways. It could be the reason but until I read some threads where users of Fx 3.5 are claiming the shared dll's in IE8 and Fx 3.5 are the sole cause of the slowness in starting Fx 3.5 for many...well, I will remain skeptical until then.<br><br>As for "Mozilla" saying to clear IE temp files if Fx 3.5 starts slowly that was a MOD at the Mozillazine forums that said that. Mozillazine has NO affiliation with Mozilla and does not speak for Mozilla developers who seldom, if ever, read those forums (except for two who read the Fx Features and SeaMonkey Features because they are trying to port extensions from Fx to SeaMonkey in their spare time). <br><br>The thread at Mozillazine forums where the Mod suggested this as a remedy is locked so I could not ask in that thread. I started a new thread because I am thoroughly confused as to why Fx is somehow using IE's temp folder. That locked thread said nothing about IE8. It states that Fx 3.5 slowness in starting is likely due to any version of IE's temp files if they have not been cleared before starting Fx 3.5. That doesn't make any sense to me.  Besides, the temp files in IE 7 and 8 usually clear themselves when IE is closed. They don't frequently in IE6 and below but I haven't seen them build up in ver 7 or 8 so for many reasons this "solution" doesn't make sense to me.  Besides wouldn't the obvious solution be to limit the size of the TIF to 50MB? If you make it lower IE complains which is a shame as with other browsers you can set it at Zero which I always do.  But 50MB is not large and I just can't see how that can keep Fx 3.5 from starting quickly.<br><small>--<br>"The same ferocity that our founders devoted to protect the freedom and independence of the press is now appropriate for our defense of the freedom of the internet. The stakes are the same: the survival of our Republic". Al Gore, The Assault on Reason</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1432955"><b>Cabal</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by University :</small><br><br> :huh: my fireFx hs crashed today. was merely a week old. i had put in some 20 add ons and worked some time cool, with really good speed. now the screen behaves as a wallpaper and no amount of clicking on the links yeilds any response.its just like a dead screenshot. any idea hw to recover.nw the size of my FFX browser is sbout 45MB :( :huh:<br> </div>Start it in safe-mode and work back to find your bad add-on.<br><small>--<br>Interested in <A HREF="http://www.romraider.com/">open source engine management</a> for your Subaru?</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> :  :huh: my fireFx hs crashed today. was merely a week old. i had put in some 20 add ons and worked some time cool, with really good speed. now the screen behaves as a wallpaper and no amount of clicking on the links yeilds any response.its just like a dead screenshot. any idea hw to recover.nw the size of my FFX browser is sbout 45MB :( :huh:]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 13:29:05 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/170109"><b>CylonRed</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by Tom195 :</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  CylonRed <A HREF="/useremail/u/170109"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>  :</small><br><br>Works just fine in 3.0.11...<br> </div>Yeah, but this whole thread is about 3.5, not 3.0.xx.<br> </div>"When are they going to fix the "Show my windows and tabs from last time" option under "When Firefox starts"? That's been busted forever it seems."<br>It obviously already fixed and hardly 'forever'.<br><small>--<br>Brian<br><br>"It drops into your stomach like a Abrams's tank....  driven by Rosanne Barr..."  A. Bourdain</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 12:37:31 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  CylonRed <A HREF="/useremail/u/170109"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Works just fine in 3.0.11...<br> </div>Yeah, but this whole thread is about 3.5, not 3.0.xx.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  DownTheShore <A HREF="/useremail/u/906825"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Any new release of any browser is going to have a bunch of bugs - it's the nature of the beast.<br><br>Even though I'm primarily an IE user, I have no doubt that the FF folks will get the bugs fixed much more quickly than the IE people would have in the same situation, since FF ALWAYS fixes their problems faster.<br><br>This whole thread is a non-issue, IMO<br>  <IMG SRC="http://www.getsmile.com/emoticons/funny-smileys-68129/questions2.gif"> <br> </div>First of all, this isn't a "new" browser.<br>Second, I haven't seen ANY of the bugs that I've read about, not a single one.<br>Third, I haven't seen longer load times.. it loads quicker than 3.0.10 did for me.<br><br>3.0.8 through 3.0.10 had tons of bugs that I encountered. I'm just happy that those are gone.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/119593"><b>MrFixit1</b></A> : "Since the update, I can no longer use the paid links at the top of Google search. It doesn't do anything...If I put it into a new tab, it opens blank and is done. I have to copy the link and paste it into the address bar and remove the google url part"<br><br>Could you provide some samples of this ?<br>And some info on the software load you are running ?<br><br>2000 Firefox 3.5 no such issue.<br>XP with 3.5 no such issue . Note IE 8 is not installed !<br>Vista occasionally will have the link turn red and nothing else happen . Clicking a second time will work correctly . Note this is a fully patched and updated Vista home .   ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/698323"><b>Ftlgh</b></A> : Since the update, I can no longer use the paid links at the top of Google search.  It doesn't do anything...If I put it into a new tab, it opens blank and is done.  I have to copy the link and paste it into the address bar and remove the google url part.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/989554"><b>Blue2</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Matt <A HREF="/useremail/u/843138"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  Blue2 <A HREF="/useremail/u/989554"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>  :</small><br><br>Yes, I guess he meant to show that at the exact same moment that Mozilla was srambling to patch some Firefox bugs, MS was calmly reporting an unpatched zero day exploit.</div>I hate e-peen contests, especially when it comes to product comparisons.<br> </div>And I hate errors of omission in posts. The OP's post neglected to mention that fixes would be addressed in a week's time, as well as that IE has a far bigger issue that has yet to be addressed. So the post was misleading, whether intentional or otherwise.<br><br>I haven't stated which browser I use or support.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/634007"><b>SUMware</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Matt <A HREF="/useremail/u/843138"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>  :</small><br><br>You mean yesterday's: &raquo;<A HREF="/forum/r22660114-Critical-0day-Microsoft-DirectShow-Vulnerability-exploited">Critical:  0day Microsoft DirectShow Vulnerability exploited</A>.</div>From <A HREF="http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/index.cfm?newsid=118674">PC Advisor</a><br>July 7, 2009 -  <blockquote><small>quote:</small><hr><b>Microsoft yesterday confirmed that hackers are exploiting an unpatched bug in DirectX. The '<u>browse and get owned</u>' attack on Internet Explorer (IE) is the <u>second such exploit</u> in six weeks.</b><br><br>Microsoft's security team issued an advisory late yesterday acknowledging reports of in-the-wild attacks and providing more information about who is vulnerable.<br><br>Earlier today, security researchers at a pair of Danish firms had announced that thousands of legitimate websites hacked over the weekend were conducting drive-by attacks on IE users with an exploit of a critical unpatched vulnerability in Windows' DirectShow, part of DirectX.<br><br>"A <u>browse-and-get-owned attack vector exists</u>," Chengyun Chu, of the Microsoft Security Response Center's engineering team, said in a <A HREF="http://blogs.technet.com/srd/archive/2009/07/06/new-vulnerability-in-mpeg2tunerequest-activex-control-object-in-msvidctl-dll.aspx">blog post</a>.<br><br>"A user needs to be lured to navigate to a malicious website or a compromised legitimate website to be affected ... [but] no further user interaction is needed."<br><br><b>Although Microsoft promised it would patch the bug, a company spokesman declined to say whether that patch would be ready by July 14, the next regularly-scheduled security update release day.</b><hr></blockquote><br><br><small>[some emphasis added]</small><br><br><b>Secunia rates the vulnerability "<A HREF="http://secunia.com/advisories/35683/">extremely critical</a>," the highest rating on its five-tier severity scale.</b>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/843138"><b>Matt</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Blue2 <A HREF="/useremail/u/989554"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Yes, I guess he meant to show that at the exact same moment that Mozilla was srambling to patch some Firefox bugs, MS was calmly reporting an unpatched zero day exploit.</div>I hate e-peen contests, especially when it comes to product comparisons.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 10:35:36 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/989554"><b>Blue2</b></A> : Yes, I guess he meant to show that at the exact same moment that Mozilla was srambling to patch some Firefox bugs, MS was calmly reporting an unpatched zero day exploit. <br><br>From the OP's quoted article: <i>"Mozilla has set a community "BugDay" for July 7 to address the bugs in open-source Firefox 3.5 ... Firefox 3.5 was released to the public on June 30." </i><br><br>So, a full seven days later. YAWN. ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/843138"><b>Matt</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  PX Eliezer <A HREF="/useremail/u/1572525"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Today's new threat from Microsoft---<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.v3.co.uk/v3/news/2245511/microsoft-warns-security-threat" >www.v3.co.uk/v3/news/2245511/mic&middot;&middot;&middot;y-threat</A><br> </div>You mean yesterday's: &raquo;<A HREF="/forum/r22660114-Critical-0day-Microsoft-DirectShow-Vulnerability-exploited">Critical:  0day Microsoft DirectShow Vulnerability exploited</A>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 10:18:40 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1572525"><b>PX Eliezer</b></A> : Today's new threat from Microsoft---<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.v3.co.uk/v3/news/2245511/microsoft-warns-security-threat" >www.v3.co.uk/v3/news/2245511/mic&middot;&middot;&middot;y-threat</A>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 09:59:42 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/914341"><b>chachazz</b></A> : Firefox x64 builds:<br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://wiki.mozilla-x86-64.com/Download:Firefox" >wiki.mozilla-x86-64.com/Download:Firefox</A>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 18:27:53 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> : On my Vista 64 bit OS, Firefox 3.5 won't close fully, and if I have installed an update to an add-on, it won't reboot - it just hangs up and has to be shut down manually through task manager. I haven't encountered this on my Windows XP computers, so it may just be a Vista and/or 64 bit system issue.  ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/843138"><b>Matt</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  tonydi <A HREF="/useremail/u/388125"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  Mele20 <A HREF="/useremail/u/403861"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>  :</small><br><br>And what does IE have to do with Fx starting slowly????  Don't tell me Fx is married to IE in yet ANOTHER way in 3.5! </div>I've had one client who all of a sudden reported FF taking well over a minute to load. Tracing back, the problem began immediately after Windows Update had installed IE8. Uninstalled IE8 and FF immediately went back to its normal start up times.<br> </div>You're not the only one. Seems as though Firefox relies on certain Windows DLLs for Javascript and XUL that IE8 might replace.<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=1204385&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a" >forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic&middot;&middot;&middot;k=t&sd=a</A>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/388125"><b>tonydi</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Mele20 <A HREF="/useremail/u/403861"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>And what does IE have to do with Fx starting slowly????  Don't tell me Fx is married to IE in yet ANOTHER way in 3.5! </div>I've had one client who all of a sudden reported FF taking well over a minute to load. Tracing back, the problem began immediately after Windows Update had installed IE8. Uninstalled IE8 and FF immediately went back to its normal start up times.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1458794"><b>Warrax</b></A> : I have no problems with Firefox 3.5, it's not even slower as some people noticed. Tho I don't see anything special in this version except the forced Tab which I removed (thanks for options!)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/634007"><b>SUMware</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Matt <A HREF="/useremail/u/843138"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>       :</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  SUMware <A HREF="/useremail/u/634007"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>         :</small><br><br>If you are seeing abnormally slow start up times when you first start Firefox delete the temporary internet files in I.E. </div></div>For those who missed it, Mozilla made the statement that some have incorrectly attributed to me. This issue does not appear to be a problem on Linux.<br><br><A HREF="http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=1326475">Firefox 3.5 FAQ: Look here first!</a> - <b>said by Mozilla</b>:<br>  <blockquote><small>said by Mozilla :</small><hr><i>Windows only - If you are seeing abnormally slow start up times when you first start Firefox delete the temporary internet files in I.E.</i><hr></blockquote><br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="/forum/remark,22640789">Re: Why is IE8 the absolute worst at the acid3 browser test?</A><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  Matt <A HREF="/useremail/u/843138"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>       :</small><br><br>I yearn for the days when MS went at it alone and developed their own standards.<br><br>While Firefox is a great browser (and it's my primary, I detest IE7 and IE8) it hasn't brought anything new to the table. Yay, we have an alternative to IE, yay it has neat plugins, but other than that, nada. It hasn't changed the web landscape one iota and I would argue has slowed progress down.<br><br>The new 3.5 feature that seamlessly integrates video and audio is more akin to what I'm referring to, but again they are trying to reinvent the wheel. We have other things that do that already like Flash that are in widespread use, yet they waste time reinventing it with Ogg Vorbis and Theora support. Really? Ogg Vorbis guys? Theora? I actually had to Google that last one as I've never even heard of it. Why not one of the myriad of ubiquitous open codecs out there? They picked two of the most obscure formats out there, almost as if on purpose.</div><A HREF="http://news.softpedia.com/news/No-Codec-Requirements-for-the-HTML-5-Standard-115796.shtml">No Codec Requirements for the HTML 5 Standard</a><br><b>As the browser makers have failed to find common grounds</b>       <blockquote><small>quote:</small><hr>Among squabbles and disagreements, specific codec requirements for the  and  tags may be removed from the proposed HTML 5 standard. Ian Hickson, editor of the HTML 5 specification for the World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) made his concerns and decisions known saying that without a general consensus among browser makers he could not make any codecs mandatory in the standard, for now.<br><br><i>Most browser makers and experts would prefer using the open-source, royalty-free Ogg Vorbis codec for audio and Ogg Theora for video. These are currently supported by Mozilla in Firefox 3.5, Opera 10 and the latest Google Chrome builds.</i><br><br>With none of the browser makers willing to change their views there will be no codec requirements in HTML 5 for now.<hr></blockquote><br><br><small>[some emphasis added]</small><br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="/forum/remark,22640789">Re: Why is IE8 the absolute worst at the acid3 browser test?</A><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  Matt <A HREF="/useremail/u/843138"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>       :</small><br><br>I can understand that they want to focus on making the BROWSER better, but they aren't doing anything to make the WEB better. Deride Microsoft all you want, but they have done more to advance the state of the web than (arguably) anyone else to date.<br><br>Open Source too often has to compromise quality and features to please the community of developers or to hold to some absurd sense of "openness," which results in things like Ogg Vorbis support when absolutely no one uses Ogg Vorbis.</div>From <A HREF="http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2009/07/decoding-the-html-5-video-codec-debate.ars">Ars Technica</a><br>July 5, 2009 -     <blockquote><small>said by Ryan Paul :</small><hr>The patent licensing requirements mean that H.264 codecs can't be freely redistributed, making the format a non-starter for Mozilla and most other open source browser vendors.<br><br><b>Microsoft, which has no plans to implement the HTML 5 video element at all, is also still an impediment to bringing open Internet video to the masses.</b><br><br>It's unfortunate that this debate is threatening to derail the adoption of standards-based Internet video solutions. The dominant video solution today is Flash, a proprietary technology that is controlled by a single vendor and doesn't perform well on Linux or Mac OS X. There is a clear need for an open alternative, but the codec controversy could make it difficult.<br><br>My inner pessimist suspects that <b>Microsoft will finally get around to implementing HTML 5 video at the same time that the H.264 patents expire, in roughly 2025</b>.<hr></blockquote><br><br><small>[some emphasis added]</small><br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="/forum/remark,22640789">Re: Why is IE8 the absolute worst at the acid3 browser test?</A><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  Matt <A HREF="/useremail/u/843138"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>       :</small><br><br>You may despise the way Microsoft gained their initial market share, but they did do things that were good with it that Linux is still unable to achieve like provide a develop once and run on any machine platform. I can still run code on Windows 7 that was release in 1998. No fussing with RPM, APT, source code, etc. Microsoft built a browser that was BETTER and easier to use than Netscape. Sure if was full of security holes, but even Firefox borrowed from ActiveX with their XPI installation packages. The only difference is Microsoft made the mistake of tying IE into the operating system.<br><br>Microsoft made the desktop computer ubiquitous, affordable, and standards-based. Sure you can argue that they weren't "open" standards, but when you control 90%+ of the market, I'd argue that if you develop a standard, that *IS* the standard.</div>More details available at <A HREF="http://www.webmonkey.com/blog/W3C_Drops_Audio_and_Video_Codec_Requirements_From_HTML_5"><br>W3C Drops Audio and Video Codec Requirements From HTML 5</a><br>"<i>Microsoft has not commented on their intent to support '<u>video</u>' at all.</i>"]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/819609"><b>Grail Knight</b></A> : I have had Fx v3.5.1pre crash 2x and it was directly related to a flash bug that has already been reported.<br><br>Adobe will be fixing that up soon from what I was told. In the mean time I just surf around it. <br><small>--<br>"Facts not FUD!"</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 10:44:31 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/843138"><b>Matt</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Martinus <A HREF="/useremail/u/445404"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  Matt <A HREF="/useremail/u/843138"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>  :</small><br><br> So if you run it once, allow it to scan, and notice it runs slow, it's not going to run slow the next time you open it so clearing IE's temporary internet files won't do any good.<br> </div>Exactly. That's what I mean.<br><br>One thing I <b>think</b> has helped is to change offline caching in about:config to 125mb from 500mb. But I'm not sure.<br> </div>I haven't noticed slower performance and FF is my main browser. I only use a few, widely known and very well supported plugins though. (XMarks, ABP, FireFTP, New Tab Homepage)]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 10:35:04 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/445404"><b>Martinus</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Matt <A HREF="/useremail/u/843138"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br> So if you run it once, allow it to scan, and notice it runs slow, it's not going to run slow the next time you open it so clearing IE's temporary internet files won't do any good.<br> </div>Exactly. That's what I mean.<br><br>One thing I <b>think</b> has helped is to change offline caching in about:config to 125mb from 500mb. But I'm not sure.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 10:21:55 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/843138"><b>Matt</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Martinus <A HREF="/useremail/u/445404"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  SUMware <A HREF="/useremail/u/634007"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>  :</small><br><br>If you are seeing abnormally slow start up times when you first start Firefox delete the temporary internet files in I.E. </div>I wonder what IE's TIF have to do with Firefox. Each app has its own cache directory.<br> </div>When you first start Firefox and allow it to scan IE for settings to import, it will take longer if you have a lot of cookies and temporary internet files in IE. IE cache files and cookies are all stored in the same directory.<br><br>I find that somewhat of a logical fallacy though, because the scan only happens on the very first run. So if you run it once, allow it to scan, and notice it runs slow, it's not going to run slow the next time you open it so clearing IE's temporary internet files won't do any good.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/445404"><b>Martinus</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  SUMware <A HREF="/useremail/u/634007"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>If you are seeing abnormally slow start up times when you first start Firefox delete the temporary internet files in I.E. </div>I wonder what IE's TIF have to do with Firefox. Each app has its own cache directory.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 10:07:04 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/843138"><b>Matt</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  PX Eliezer <A HREF="/useremail/u/1572525"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>As for Mozilla support, why would anyone need phone support for Firefox or Thunderbird?  I can't conceive of such a circumstance, except perhaps in rare situations.  I say this seriously, not in any sarcastic way.<br> </div>I'm just trying to illustrate that Microsoft offers more support options and avenues than Mozilla. A lot of people don't realize that Microsoft offers free phone support, excellent newsgroups and forums, and has a very good user community of knowledgeable people (just pop-in the Microsoft or Enterprise Admins forums on this site) out there.<br><br>And you're right, Google is an excellent source of information to fix a Microsoft problem. The user community has always resolved any issue that I can't, so when I turn to Google I don't have a hard time finding an answer.<br><br>Mozilla may be the exception, but I've found FOSS support to be hit or miss. Mainly miss. Perhaps the fact that the Mozilla foundation funds development is why their support is superior to other FOSS projects?]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/766601"><b>avd706</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Homunculus <A HREF="/useremail/u/263407"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>When are they going to fix the "Show my windows and tabs from last time" option under "When Firefox starts"? That's been busted forever it seems.<br> </div>They changed the way it works now.<br><small>--<br>Team JON.</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/769760"><b>Derspankster</b></A> : I haven't played with it much yet. I run it in XP from Virtutalbox and haven't detected any issues as yet. <br><small>--<br>my site: &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.lairdslair.com/" >www.lairdslair.com/</A></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1157186"><b>quatrix</b></A> : My only problem so far is the 10 - 15 seconds it freezes when first starting up.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1612260"><b>Jammers</b></A> : Firefox 3.5 hasn't crashed once for me yet. Weird thing is when i got my new computer last fall Firefox crashed on me daily. Sometimes multiple times in a day but it subsided after a couple months. Not sure what version that one was though.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/819609"><b>Grail Knight</b></A> :  <blockquote><small>quote:</small><hr>This is just plain ridiculous and sloppy!!<hr></blockquote><br><br>No this is just how MoFo does things. It is called getting a build out to the users and then bug hunting and fixing on the go.<br><br>Does not bother me in the slightest if there are bugs in v3.5 because I know MoFo is working on them. <br><br>Would you rather have Fx be treated like an OS and wait a year or more between releases then have to wait for patches and a service pack to fix those bugs?<br><br>I do not see the big deal here it is just how MoFo handles Fx. Each company approaches bugs differently.<br><small>--<br>"Facts not FUD!"</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/819609"><b>Grail Knight</b></A> :  <blockquote><small>quote:</small><hr>Microsoft offers free phone support for IE. Where is the number to call Mozilla for free support?<hr></blockquote><br><br>Considering Firefox is a free product it is not unusual not not offer telephone support. Opera does not offer phone support either according to their web site.<br><br>As there are other ways to obtain support I do not see a problem.<br><br><A HREF="http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/">Mozilla Support</a><br><br><A HREF="http://www.opera.com/company/contact/">Oper Support/Contact</a><br><br>Opera does not offer telephone support either.<br><br>Is IE somehow special because MS offers limited phone support for IE? <br><small>--<br>"Facts not FUD!"</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/779741"><b>Khaine</b></A> : I've had no problems with Firefox 3.5 As with any release, I'm sure that their are bugs, and I'm sure that everyone involved in Mozilla will work to squash them]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1577114"><b>Fireblade</b></A> : I went back to Chrome for both of my computers, running very fast through webpages and start-up. Though I left 3.5 on my Windows 7 laptop where for some strange reason it's running remarkably well in terms of start-up and browsing compared to my XP computers which topple it in power.<br><br>If I was able to get similar results on both of my machines, I would throw 3.5 right back in the game. I like Chrome a lot for its  performance, but it lacks greatly in customization and stability(3-5 crashes daily).<br><small>--<br>I love fish sticks. I love putting fish sticks in my mouth.</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/403861"><b>Mele20</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  SUMware <A HREF="/useremail/u/634007"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>If you are seeing abnormally slow start up times when you first start Firefox delete the temporary internet files in I.E.<br></div>And what does IE have to do with Fx starting slowly????  Don't tell me Fx is married to IE in yet ANOTHER way in 3.5! <br><small>--<br>"The same ferocity that our founders devoted to protect the freedom and independence of the press is now appropriate for our defense of the freedom of the internet. The stakes are the same: the survival of our Republic". Al Gore, The Assault on Reason</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/185071"><b>kcazzie</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Oleg <A HREF="/useremail/u/910278"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  La Luna <A HREF="/useremail/u/429050"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>  :</small><br><br>I have no trouble with FF 3.5. Hasn't crashed once!!!!!  :o<br> </div>The same here :-)<br> </div>Me three...]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/663732"><b>cacroll</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  PX Eliezer <A HREF="/useremail/u/1572525"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  Matt <A HREF="/useremail/u/843138"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>  :</small><br><br>Microsoft offers free phone support for IE. Where is the number to call Mozilla for free support?<br> </div>Microsoft's support is limited:<br><br>"Support for Internet Explorer 8 installation, set-up and usage is available via the phone based on your locale. Customers must be running Windows XP or Windows Vista in a non-domain environment.  Free phone support for Internet Explorer 8 is limited to installation, set-up and usage only. Advanced issues are not supported. Advanced issues include problems that are associated with software and hardware development, network connectivity, server-based technologies, and business-critical systems."<br></div><br><br>When needed, I have received as good, if not better, response from the Mozilla support forums (on Usenet as well as their web forum) as from Microsoft.  That's my status as an MVP (mine in Windows Networking originally) not with standing.  I have seen some other MVPs with a similar attitude.<br><br>The fine print expressed above just exemplifies the Microsoft attitude, toward their support.  And we pay for Microsoft  products, Mozilla makes theirs completely free.<br><small>--<br>Cheers,<br>Chuck<br>MS-MVP 2005-2009 [Windows - Desktop Experience]<br><A HREF="http://www.nitecruzr.net/">Nitecruzr Dot Net</a></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/429050"><b>La Luna</b></A> : This is awesome, I love the right click options on the video player!<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://hacks.mozilla.org/2009/06/connecting-html5-video/" >hacks.mozilla.org/2009/06/connec&middot;&middot;&middot;5-video/</A>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/356416"><b>Link Logger</b></A> : You know good testers are really hard to find, and 99.9999% of so beta testers aren't testers at all just people who want the new version for purely the sake of 'new'.  So I expect any software release to have bugs and frankly more then a developer would want based on the 'poor' testing users do.  I would expect the developers are rather disappointed by some of these bugs and why they weren't brought to their attention before release, but so is the nature of the development game and I'm sure they will address them and wonder how they can get better testing next time.<br><br>Blake<br><small>--<br>Vendor: Author of <A HREF="http://www.linklogger.com">Link Logger</a> which is a traffic analysis and firewall logging tool</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/910278"><b>Oleg</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  La Luna <A HREF="/useremail/u/429050"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>I have no trouble with FF 3.5. Hasn't crashed once!!!!!  :o<br> </div>The same here :-)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1432955"><b>Cabal</b></A> : <A HREF="http://www.slate.com/id/2221756/">Firefox 3.5 reviewed: The Fantastic Firefox</a><br><br><A HREF="http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302846,00.htm">Firefox 3.5 benchmarked: Twice as fast as Firefox 3</a><br><small>--<br>Interested in <A HREF="http://www.romraider.com/">open source engine management</a> for your Subaru?</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 22:31:50 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1163957"><b>Shriyash</b></A> : Great attempt at scaremongering. <br>There are bugs, and they will therefore be fixed.<br>Everybody needs to stay calm, and stay sharp, and just install the latest version which will be out soon, no doubt.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1181003"><b>rcdailey</b></A> : I observed an interesting phenomenon with Firefox 3.5 wherein I had opened a site with lots of photos that belongs to a guy I know from a forum that we both use.  Anyway, the site is fine with IE, but with Firefox 3.5, I found that the audio background music did not play and when I clicked on a small photo to enlarge it, it first opened in a tab, but then without warning, that switched to a new window.  That's not a killer, but it is something that doesn't happen with IE, and the site plays properly  with IEtab in Firefox 3.5.  I'm not sure it's worth reporting, especially if there are 55 bugs already in the queue.  <br><br>Oh, yes, as Gixxer says, it is slow to startup, but everything gets slower over the years when you are using an old computer like mine from 2002.  I've only got 512MB of RAM and that's after I upgraded from 256 a few years back.  <br><br>Added:  I went back to the same website and the images page and this time I saw why I was not getting Audio.  NoScript was blocking the audio object.  So, it was not a bug in Firefox.  Also, the tab did not switch to a new window this time, so I have no idea what happened previously.  It is a fact that a tab can be opened in a new window, so maybe something happened the other day that caused that, but I don't think there is any Firefox bug here for that, either.  Therefore, I was prudent in not bothering to report this at Bugzilla.  There's  nothing to report.<br><br><small>--<br>In reality, there is no such thing as a clean human being.</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/139520"><b>cork1958</b></A> : 55 bugs in a single update? Not really even a full fledged upgrade?<br><br>Granted, <br>I know they'll fix it ASAP, but sheesh, did they even test it before releasing it?!!<br><br>This is just plain ridiculous and sloppy!!<br><small>--<br>The Firefox alternative.<br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/" >www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/</A></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/959828"><b>gugarci</b></A> : I have not experienced any issues at all at home and at work with 3.5. But when 3.5.1 comes out I'll install it.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1095016"><b>urbanriot</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  PX Eliezer <A HREF="/useremail/u/1572525"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>I have had occasion to call Microsoft support for other issues, have even paid for it, and have not found it useful or pleasant.  In fact, the best way to get help for Microsoft problems is to Google the problem.  We're all grownups here, we know this is true. </div>Interesting, I've had the exact opposite experiences.<br><br>I called in 2008 for a licensing problem I had for Microsoft Streets and Trips 2005 and a very helpful technician logged into the laptop remotely and fixed the issue, free of charge. He also left me the utility to fix it if it should happen again, as long as I don't say where I got it. <br><br>I also called again in 2009 for a problem with SBS 2008 and an obscure issue conflicting with another problem, and a very polite, senior sounding southerner sent me a patch to fix the problem. ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/327578"><b>hayc59</b></A> : My only complaint after several years<br>of using Firefox.....this version sucks!!<br>slow as hell and sulky]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/597902"><b>MrMega</b></A> : I've noticed some resource hogging in the new release.  On my new computer, it does not make a difference.  However, on my old computer that I turned into an entertainment center for watching TV, videos on Hulu and other TV websites, FF is now a little choppy and increasingly uses up resources the longer it runs.  Considering my "old" computer is still a P4 2.66 with 1.25G RAM and 256MB Vid card, you would think it would still run flawlessly, but it does not... not anymore.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 21:17:04 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1572525"><b>PX Eliezer</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Matt <A HREF="/useremail/u/843138"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Microsoft offers free phone support for IE. Where is the number to call Mozilla for free support?<br> </div>Microsoft's support is limited:<br><br>"Support for Internet Explorer 8 installation, set-up and usage is available via the phone based on your locale. Customers must be running Windows XP or Windows Vista in a non-domain environment.  Free phone support for Internet Explorer 8 is limited to installation, set-up and usage only. Advanced issues are not supported. Advanced issues include problems that are associated with software and hardware development, network connectivity, server-based technologies, and business-critical systems."<br><br>I have had occasion to call Microsoft support for other issues, have even paid for it, and have not found it useful or pleasant.  In fact, the best way to get help for Microsoft problems is to Google the problem.  We're all grownups here, we know this is true.<br><br>----------------------------<br><br>As for Mozilla support, why would anyone need phone support for Firefox or Thunderbird?  I can't conceive of such a circumstance, except perhaps in rare situations.  I say this seriously, not in any sarcastic way.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1095016"><b>urbanriot</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  skyroket <A HREF="/useremail/u/408869"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Users are posting complaints.  Enough said.  Do you even know where to go to complain about IE?  Good luck with that.<br> </div>Sure, no luck necessary. You can use Microsoft's Internet Explorer public forums which are also accessible via NNTP. Typically Microsoft representatives will reply within a day. ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/843138"><b>Matt</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  PX Eliezer <A HREF="/useremail/u/1572525"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  SUMware <A HREF="/useremail/u/634007"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>  :</small><br><br>Sometimes with new major releases issues occur. Users who would enjoy helping to improve Firefox, rather than merely trolling and/or complaining, are invited to participate in.......<br><br> </div>The Mozilla folks are to be complimented on their openness and also their speedy response to these issues.<br><br>This is the exact OPPOSITE of the approach used by the Microsofties.<br> </div>Microsoft offers free phone support for IE. Where is the number to call Mozilla for free support?]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/843138"><b>Matt</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  skyroket <A HREF="/useremail/u/408869"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Users are posting complaints.  Enough said.  Do you even know where to go to complain about IE?  Good luck with that.<br> </div>A quick Google search was all that was needed. &raquo;<A HREF="http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?gprid=13418&timestmp=633824125442645014&acty=ProductList&ctl=productlist&wf=PID&trl=PID~ProductList&ln=en-us&prid=13043&gsaid=588823" >support.microsoft.com/oas/defaul&middot;&middot;&middot;d=588823</A>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1572525"><b>PX Eliezer</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  SUMware <A HREF="/useremail/u/634007"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Sometimes with new major releases issues occur. Users who would enjoy helping to improve Firefox, rather than merely trolling and/or complaining, are invited to participate in.......<br><br> </div>The Mozilla folks are to be complimented on their openness and also their speedy response to these issues.<br><br>This is the exact OPPOSITE of the approach used by the Microsofties.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/634007"><b>SUMware</b></A> : Sometimes with new major releases issues occur. Users who would enjoy helping to improve Firefox, rather than merely trolling and/or complaining, are invited to participate in:<br><br><A HREF="http://quality.mozilla.org/events/2009/jun/30/firefox-bugday-catch-missed-blocker-critical-and-major-35-bugs">Firefox BugDay - Catch Missed Blocker, Critical, and Major 3.5 bugs!</a><br><b>Start</b>:  2009-07-07 05:00<br><b>Timezone</b>:  America/Chicago (UTC -5 hours) - <blockquote><small>said by Mozilla :</small><hr>This Bug Day, we'll be focusing on unconfirmed bugs reported using Firefox 3.5. It's important to find any severe bugs that were missed during the release cycle. Any blocker, critical, or major bugs that are found could get fixed in the upcoming Firefox 3.5.1 or another maintenance release.<br><br><b>How do I get ready?</b><br><br>Meet us on <A HREF="irc://irc.mozilla.org/#bugday">#bugday</a> for help and guidance. You can use <A HREF="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&classification=Client+Software&product=Firefox&long_desc_type=substring&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&resolution=---&bug_severity=blocker&bug_severity=critical&bug_severity=major&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=exact&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=exact&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=2009-05-01&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Importance&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0">this URL</a> for a good search query to get started with.<br><br><b>This is what we're doing...</b><br><br>During this Bug Day, we will focus on narrowing down unconfirmed bugs to find any important ones that have been reported, looking especially for regressions in Firefox 3.5 that weren't in Firefox 3.0. Once we find them, we'll hand them off to developers to get them into a "point" update (e.g., Firefox 3.5.1).<br><br><b>Triage, what is it?</b><br><br>Well, simply put, triage is taking a bug, making sure it has enough information to reproduce, and ensuring that it is in the proper component. After that, you should try to reproduce the issue. Problems that are easily reproducible (such as a crash that occurs every time you visit a certain website), are more valuable than those that are impossible to reproduce. If you can reproduce a bug, please add a comment to the bug or recommend in <A HREF="irc://irc.mozilla.org/#bugday">#bugday</a> that the bug be confirmed.<br><br>For more information on triage, please check out the <A HREF="http://quality.mozilla.org/documents-home/bugs-docs/bug-triaging-guidelines">Bug Triage Guidelines</a> and <A HREF="http://quality.mozilla.org/projects/unconfirmed-bug-triage">Project</a>.<br><br>Help make Firefox 3.5 even better!<hr></blockquote>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/663732"><b>cacroll</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  danny9 <A HREF="/useremail/u/658312"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=faqs" >support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=faqs</A><br><br>or call 866-234-6020 or post on the web.<br></div><br><br>And hold your breath, til you turn blue.   :p<br><small>--<br>Cheers,<br>Chuck<br>MS-MVP 2005-2009 [Windows - Desktop Experience]<br><A HREF="http://www.nitecruzr.net/">Nitecruzr Dot Net</a></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/634007"><b>SUMware</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Fireblade <A HREF="/useremail/u/1577114"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>  :</small><br><br>It's painfully slow on startup.</div>You reported <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Fireblade <A HREF="/useremail/u/1577114"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>  :</small><br><br>I changed offline caching in about:config to 125mb from 500mb, seems to speed the start up by A LOT.</div> here &raquo;<A HREF="/forum/remark,22657368">Re: [FireFox] FF 3.5 taking forever to load</A> .<br><br><A HREF="http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=6869765#p6869765">Firefox Start up issues</a><br>Slow start up - <i>Windows only</i><br>If you are seeing abnormally slow start up times when you first start Firefox delete the temporary internet files in I.E.<br>Also see: <A HREF="http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=1326105&start=60">Firefox 3.5 Final Opens Very Slowly</a><br><br><A HREF="http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=1326475">Firefox 3.5 FAQ: Look here first!"</a> for more suggestions.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1572525"><b>PX Eliezer</b></A> : I have not seen any problem with the new FF, nor have my wife and daughter who are heavy gamers.<br><br>I am sure there are some issues out there, and they will be fixed quickly.  <br><br>The Mozilla folks fix problems FAR quicker than the Microsofters.<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.osnews.com/story/21092/Firefox_Faced_More_Flaws_in_2008_But_Fixed_Them_Faster" >www.osnews.com/story/21092/Firef&middot;&middot;&middot;m_Faster</A>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1484955"><b>dean corso</b></A> : FF 3.5 has crashed multiple times when trying to download from cnet/zdnet.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1432955"><b>Cabal</b></A> : <A HREF="http://blogs.computerworld.com/firefox_3_5_back_on_top_for_now">Firefox 3.5: Back on top</a><br><small>--<br>Interested in <A HREF="http://www.romraider.com/">open source engine management</a> for your Subaru?</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 16:20:22 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1577114"><b>Fireblade</b></A> : It's painfully slow on startup.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 15:53:31 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/544328"><b>Turbocpe</b></A> : I've been running FireFox for years now, but I notice some issue with the newest upgrade.<br><br>Sometimes if I maximize FireFox after running in the background, and if try to visit any website, it won't load any webpage in any tab. The status bar won't show anything. The FireFox animated icon in the tab will spin forever. Nothing else happens, like actually loading the webpage I requested.<br><br>If open a new tab and go to a common website like Yahoo or Google, it does the same thing (no status bar information, the FireFox animated icon in the tab will spin forever - no webpage loads).<br><br>If I close FireFox and restart it, then it works again for X hours before it repeats itself. I did not have this issue with previous FireFox releases.<br><br>Not sure if that is a "crash" or not, but it might as well be if the browser doesn't work properly unless it's restarted. Only plugins I'm using is 1-Click Weather, NoScript and Adblock Plus.<br><br>Other issue I noticed in the newest FireFox, atleast on my machine, eats more resources than normal (even more than previous FireFox versions). I used to be able to leave FireFox minimized in the background overnight, now I can't leave it for a few hours before I notice a performance issue (or the issue described above). My computer is a 3.0GhZ Pentium 4 with 2GB of memory.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 15:49:06 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/170109"><b>CylonRed</b></A> : Works just fine in 3.0.11...]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 15:39:46 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/263407"><b>Homunculus</b></A> : When are they going to fix the "Show my windows and tabs from last time" option under "When Firefox starts"? That's been busted forever it seems.<br><small>--<br>Islam is a hate crime: &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.thememriblog.org" >www.thememriblog.org</A></small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 15:28:35 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/906825"><b>DownTheShore</b></A> : Any new release of any browser is going to have a bunch of bugs - it's the nature of the beast.<br><br>Even though I'm primarily an IE user, I have no doubt that the FF folks will get the bugs fixed much more quickly than the IE people would have in the same situation, since FF ALWAYS fixes their problems faster.<br><br>This whole thread is a non-issue, IMO<br>  <IMG SRC="http://www.getsmile.com/emoticons/funny-smileys-68129/questions2.gif"> <br><small>--<br><i>Patriotism is not waving a flag, it is living the ideals<br><br>Bush & Co. didn't keep us safe - 9/11 happend on their watch!</i></small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 15:25:29 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1432955"><b>Cabal</b></A> : <A HREF="http://tuxarena.blogspot.com/2009/06/firefox-35-really-impressive-release.html">Firefox 3.5 - A Really Impressive Release</a><br><small>--<br>Interested in <A HREF="http://www.romraider.com/">open source engine management</a> for your Subaru?</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 13:41:14 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1525403"><b>Smith6612</b></A> : Since installing Firefox 3.5, I've only seen one error take place and it only happened once. It took place on Windows XP, where when I brought the window back up from minimization while the system was busy, the forward/back, reload, stop and home buttons had disappeared, and remained gone even after the system settled down. I had to restart Firefox to bring it back.<br><br>But it's not a surprise to hear about these bugs. I've got a bunch of beta software installed so I'm used to them anyways.<br><small>--<br>It's all fun and games in a Team Fortress 2 battle until your sentry gun is sapped by the Spycrab!</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 13:37:35 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1432955"><b>Cabal</b></A> : Firefox working perfectly here with all my extensions.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 13:36:01 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/170109"><b>CylonRed</b></A> : Wow- software with bugs - who da think?<br><br>I agree with others - this is nothing to do with security at a minimum.<br><small>--<br>Brian<br><br>"It drops into your stomach like a Abrams's tank....  driven by Rosanne Barr..."  A. Bourdain</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 13:26:09 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Re: users are posting complaints and Moz is responding quickly</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/668609"><b>EGeezer</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  matunga <A HREF="/useremail/u/847301"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Mozilla has set a community "BugDay" for July 7 to address the bugs in open-source Firefox 3.5.<br>Firefox 3.5.1 is expected to be released later this month to correct some of the <b>55 published bugs</b>  </div>You mean they're responding in a few days with a special collaborative session and aren't waiting until next month to issue a "Patch Tuesday" update? Good for Mozilla! :D <br><br>OT, but you never did respond to my question about IE8's lack of script control granularity and functionality as is found in NoScript.  :( <br><small>--<br>The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding. -- Justice Louis D. Brandeis</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 13:15:04 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/413587"><b>nirvansk815</b></A> : Running XP, Firefox 3.5, I've noticed slower load times (double clicking the executable from a restart) and it also crashed once.<br><small>--<br>There's so much to be thankful for...How can anyone be sad?</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 13:10:20 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/658312"><b>danny9</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  skyroket <A HREF="/useremail/u/408869"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Users are posting complaints.  Enough said.  Do you even know where to go to complain about IE?  Good luck with that.<br> </div>&raquo;<A HREF="http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=faqs" >support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=faqs</A><br><br>or call 866-234-6020 or post on the web.   :)<br><small>--<br>"In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.."<br>George Orwell</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 13:04:27 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/917630"><b>Cudni</b></A> : from<br>&raquo;<A HREF="/shownews/Friday-Evening-Links-103261">Friday Evening Links</A><br>a less dramatic and more realistic announcement <br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/03/mozilla_firefox_3_5_1/" >www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/03&middot;&middot;&middot;x_3_5_1/</A><br>"..<br>The open source browser maker also confirmed it would be bringing out version 3.5.1 soon to squash bugs its development team hadn&#146;t managed to eradicate ahead of the launch.<br>.."<br><br>Cudni<br><small>--<br>"what we know we know the same, what we don't know, we don't know it differently." <br>Help yourself so God can help you.<br>Microsoft MVP,  2006 - 2009</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 12:52:43 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1419052"><b>tomazyk</b></A> : I am very happy with new release and it hadn't crash for me yet. I had few addons disabled but nothing important. I think Mozilla will correct the bugs quickly. ]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 11:51:37 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/408869"><b>skyroket</b></A> : Users are posting complaints.  Enough said.  Do you even know where to go to complain about IE?  Good luck with that.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 11:50:17 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/429050"><b>La Luna</b></A> : I have no trouble with FF 3.5. Hasn't crashed once!!!!!  :o]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 11:40:13 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/847301"><b>matunga</b></A> : Mozilla is scrambling to fix bugs in its just-released Firefox 3.5 browser. Users are posting complaints about problems across the Web.<br>Those problems include longer load times and crashes linked to the TraceMonkey JavaScript engine. The browser also reportedly has problems with Windows XP. Mozilla has set a community "BugDay" for July 7 to address the bugs in open-source Firefox 3.5.<br>Firefox 3.5.1 is expected to be released later this month to correct some of the <b>55 published bugs</b>  :o<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.newsfactor.com/story.xhtml?story_id=003000004CAX&full_skip=1" >www.newsfactor.com/story.xhtml?s&middot;&middot;&middot;l_skip=1</A>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 11:01:02 EDT</pubDate>
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