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Re: Another CFL (compact fluorescent light) question
CFL bulbs contain mercury if you put one where it can overheat easily and break and the mercury gas be trapped in the enclosure (read about mercury poisoning). |
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| said by the Grumble  :CFL bulbs contain mercury if you put one where it can overheat easily and break and the mercury gas be trapped in the enclosure (read about mercury poisoning). I would think that trapping it would be beneficial. |
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join:2009-05-11 | You'll have to open the enclosure sooner or later. |
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BonezX
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said by the Grumble :You'll have to open the enclosure sooner or later. True,
But the amount of mercury released by using CFL is lower than the amount released by burning fossil fuels like coal to produce the energy to light them.
»www.energystar.gov/ia/partners/p···cury.pdf |
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1 edit | said by PrntRhd :said by the Grumble :You'll have to open the enclosure sooner or later. True, But the amount of mercury released by using CFL is lower than the amount released by burning fossil fuels like coal to produce the energy to light them. » www.energystar.gov/ia/partners/p···cury.pdf PROVE that running a multi-10's-of-megawatt plant for the milliseconds it takes to power a single CFL for it's lifetime generates MORE mercury then is enclosed in said CFL - I don't believe it.
Don't reference any government websites either - they're the ones mandating the use of CFL's...
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| But the thread subject is not about mercury in CFLs, I was simply responding to Eregular's reply where he was dancing on the head of a pin. Not that there is anything wrong with that.
If you really do have independent evidence the government site is using falsified basis for their claims, you should post it, otherwise it is just opinion. |
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| said by PrntRhd :But the thread subject is not about mercury in CFLs, I was simply responding to Eregular's reply where he was dancing on the head of a pin. Not that there is anything wrong with that. If you really do have independent evidence the government site is using falsified basis for their claims, you should post it, otherwise it is just opinion. Translation - "My post is also opinion." Done.
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4 edits | EPA estimates the U.S. is responsible for the release of 104 metric tons of mercury emissions each year. Most of these emissions come from coal-fired electrical power. Mercury released into the air is the main way that mercury gets into water and bio-accumulates in fish.
Your opinion is uncorroborated. Mine is not.
www.nescaum.org/documents/rpt031104mercury.pdf/
»members.4cleanair.org/rc_files/3···cury.pdf
»www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20···1654.htm
»www.ucsusa.org/scientific_integr···ons.html
»www.scientificamerican.com/artic···ule-over |
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said by the Grumble :CFL bulbs contain mercury if you put one where it can overheat easily and break and the mercury gas be trapped in the enclosure (read about mercury poisoning). considering CFL are MUCH cooler than regular bulbs I seriously doubt heat would be an issue if a 15W CFL is too hot for an enlcosure then a 60 W regular bulb certainly is. Mercury is so overblown. The CFLs out today have 1/500th the amount of mercury than the themometer your mom used to put in your mouth as a kid.
By the way they have CFL that are enclosed in a bulb to make it look like a regular bulb. So if overheating is an issue how coould they do that? |
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... The CFLs out today have 1/500th the amount of mercury than the themometer your mom used to put in your mouth as a kid. ... When I was a kid, I broke at least two of those thermometers in the kitchen sink, just to play with the mercury (if it really was mercury). I'm 46, so were talking about 38 years ago. Thank God I'm still alive and I have no (obvious) defects from it! |
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said by jay_rm :said by PrntRhd :said by the Grumble :You'll have to open the enclosure sooner or later. True, But the amount of mercury released by using CFL is lower than the amount released by burning fossil fuels like coal to produce the energy to light them. » www.energystar.gov/ia/partners/p···cury.pdf PROVE that running a multi-10's-of-megawatt plant for the milliseconds it takes to power a single CFL for it's lifetime generates MORE mercury then is enclosed in said CFL - I don't believe it. Don't reference any government websites either - they're the ones mandating the use of CFL's... Those "milliseconds" quickly add up when there are millions or billions of CFLs replacing incandescent bulbs around the world. To think otherwise is foolish! With your logic, we might as well make every 60 watt bulb a 100 watt bulb since the energy production at plant level is negligible for one bulb!
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said by BF69 :said by the Grumble :CFL bulbs contain mercury if you put one where it can overheat easily and break and the mercury gas be trapped in the enclosure (read about mercury poisoning). considering CFL are MUCH cooler than regular bulbs I seriously doubt heat would be an issue if a 15W CFL is too hot for an enlcosure then a 60 W regular bulb certainly is. Mercury is so overblown. The CFLs out today have 1/500th the amount of mercury than the themometer your mom used to put in your mouth as a kid. By the way they have CFL that are enclosed in a bulb to make it look like a regular bulb. So if overheating is an issue how coould they do that? Overheating is definitely an issue... But not with the gas in the CFL, rather the ballast (electronic) portion which resides outside the fake "bulb" covering.
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I have used CF bulbs since the early 80's in Europe with absolutely no problems whatsoever. they last longer they are far cheaper to run and they can be used in ANY fitting with enough clearance. If there is too much heat buildup inside a fitting then a normal incandescent bulb would produce the same, if not worse condition.
The mercury issue is not really an issue, all florescent bulbs contain a minute amount of mercury, no one has complained before about dangers. |
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said by the Grumble :CFL bulbs contain mercury if you put one where it can overheat easily and break and the mercury gas be trapped in the enclosure (read about mercury poisoning). Yeah... they don't contain enough mercury to poison anyone immediately, unless you're breathing in every bulb that you break.
Eating tuna is going to poison you more than a lifetime of CFL's ever will. |
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Eating tuna is going to poison you more than a lifetime of CFL's ever will.
It works out to be if you eat 1.5 cans of tuna a week, you will absorb just as much mercury in a year as you do if you were to absorb _all_ the mercury in one CFL. It's an amount about the size of a period.
In other words, nothing to even think about, really.
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