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static416

join:2007-01-26
Toronto, ON
reply to milnoc
Re: Its the Traffic Management Super Bowl!

This Zip.ca guy is good, he's showing at least his perspective of the anti-competitive aspects of traffic management.

More focus needed here.


El Quintron
Could you spare a consulting gig?

join:2008-04-28
Etobicoke, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..
·Acanac

said by static416 See Profile :

This Zip.ca guy is good, he's showing at least his perspective of the anti-competitive aspects of traffic management.

More focus needed here.
Exactly narrow on two things:

1) Lack of bandwith is a fallacy
2) Throttling is anticompetitive.
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Working to bring you closer to a Bell and Rogers free household.

Omr

join:2004-01-10
M1S-1B3

reply to O G
He sounds like Dotto, from dottotech.

»www.dottotech.com/

This is the best example of throttling, DPI, and caps destroying new innovations before they even get going ... today we may witness a Netflix like company be destroyed in Canada.

Bell's and Rogers caps, throttling and overage fees are an example of why Zip.ca will have a difficult time in reaching the last mile ... the consumer.


mlerner
Premium
join:2000-11-25
Nepean, ON
reply to O G
Yeah except he's saying bandwidth is expensive, where the hell is he getting the bandwidth from? It's actually quite cheaper in Torix.

cpsycho

join:2008-06-03
Orangeville, ON
reply to O G
was bell or robbers questioned yesterday? These questions seem to be sided.

InvalidError

join:2008-02-03
·TekSavvy Solutions..
·Videotron

reply to Omr
said by Omr See Profile :

Bell's and Rogers caps, throttling and overage fees are an example of why Zip.ca will have a difficult time in reaching the last mile ... the consumer.
Strange coincidence that Bell chose to reduce its bundled usage caps, definitely not going to help Zip and any other similar service.

static416

join:2007-01-26
Toronto, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..
·Rogers Hi-Speed

reply to El Quintron
said by El Quintron See Profile :

said by static416 See Profile :

This Zip.ca guy is good, he's showing at least his perspective of the anti-competitive aspects of traffic management.

More focus needed here.
Exactly narrow on two things:

1) Lack of bandwith is a fallacy
2) Throttling is anticompetitive.
Everyone should end each of their presentation with the statement: "If the ISP market was more widely competitive, none of these issues would exist, the market would solve the problem."


R0CKY
TSI Rocky
Premium,VIP
join:2005-05-19
Chatham, ON

reply to cpsycho
said by cpsycho See Profile :

was bell or robbers questioned yesterday? These questions seem to be sided.
They are up on Monday the 13th....


milnoc

join:2001-03-05
H3B
·TekSavvy Solutions..

reply to mlerner
said by mlerner See Profile :

Yeah except he's saying bandwidth is expensive, where the hell is he getting the bandwidth from? It's actually quite cheaper in Torix.
They still have to pay the front-end costs to connect themselves on the Internet. Cogent offers it for $7 per Mbps per month on a three year contract, less if your needs are much higher.

I'm starting to fall asleep here...


milnoc

join:2001-03-05
H3B
reply to O G
That's OS "10". Not "X".


mlerner
Premium
join:2000-11-25
Nepean, ON
·Rogers Hi-Speed
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·Bell Sympatico

reply to milnoc
said by milnoc See Profile :

said by mlerner See Profile :

Yeah except he's saying bandwidth is expensive, where the hell is he getting the bandwidth from? It's actually quite cheaper in Torix.
They still have to pay the front-end costs to connect themselves on the Internet. Cogent offers it for $7 per Mbps per month on a three year contract, less if your needs are much higher.
Yes but he didn't make that distinction, he just said bandwidth costs more period without saying it is due to the connection costs.

static416

join:2007-01-26
Toronto, ON
This CISP guy is interesting. Good technical description of how ISP's are overselling connections.


DJMASACRE

join:2008-05-27
Nepean, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..
·Bell Sympatico

said by static416 See Profile :

This CISP guy is interesting. Good technical description of how ISP's are overselling connections.
Finklestein took an allnighter reading the submission last night lol

cpsycho

join:2008-06-03
Orangeville, ON
reply to O G
This guy should have submitted two items, stupid people submission and tech one.

Omr

join:2004-01-10
M1S-1B3

reply to O G
Hehehe, Dr. Roberts oddly he was the cover story for my IEEE Spectrum magazine, and had an Article entitled "A Radical new Router", his company is called Anagran and I think it still falls under DPI but the thinking behind it seem smarter on a Router level.

»spectrum.ieee.org/computing/netw···router/0

Instead look at it as a flow .


DJMASACRE

join:2008-05-27
Nepean, ON
reply to O G
LOL he made fickle angry =(

cpsycho

join:2008-06-03
Orangeville, ON
reply to O G
They should have put a better speech guy forward then this guy.


DJMASACRE

join:2008-05-27
Nepean, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..
·Bell Sympatico

reply to O G
and Fickle says ¨... and then the ISPS need this ¨new technology¨.. and who will pay for this ... the shareholders ? ¨

why should Bell even have to agree with anything ... there are other ISPs that should be able to do as they please.

as long as the net is NOT strangled by ONE dominating ISP .

cpsycho

join:2008-06-03
Orangeville, ON
reply to O G
They easy thing would be is the government control the CO's and all ISP are allowed access to the CO's. This would be dirt cheap for the government.


DJMASACRE

join:2008-05-27
Nepean, ON
reply to O G
is she trying to speak french to confuse them ? =P

yay official languages !
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