drewis
Premium
join:2006-09-04
Hamilton, ON | reply to jfmezei
Re: Its the Traffic Management Super Bowl!
talk about beating around the bush, sandvine gotta love them.. just redirecting the question... |
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mlerner
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Nepean, ON
 ·Rogers Hi-Speed
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| said by drewis  :talk about beating around the bush, sandvine gotta love them.. just redirecting the question... They shouldn't even be in the process! Just more free press for them. |
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DJMASACRE
join:2008-05-27
Nepean, ON | reply to O G
Juniper Networks next !
hope these guys are good  |
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DJMASACRE
join:2008-05-27
Nepean, ON | reply to O G
control .... control .... control .......... |
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drewis
Premium
join:2006-09-04
Hamilton, ON | lol |
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Anonone
@owergeneration.com | reply to O G
Wonder if they'll distribute the televised recording via Torrent?! |
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An_Onymous
@teksavvy.com | reply to DJMASACRE
I read through Juniper's filing and their comments are fair and respectable. |
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mlerner
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join:2000-11-25
Nepean, ON | said by An_Onymous :
I read through Juniper's filing and their comments are fair and respectable.
They're slightly ok, but being a vendor there's always a chance of bias. |
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DJMASACRE
join:2008-05-27
Nepean, ON
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| reply to An_Onymous
said by An_Onymous :
I read through Juniper's filing and their comments are fair and respectable.
ya, your right , i can understand Junipers point of view as they really are talking about the networks and how to improve a network.
but we all know this is not really Bell or Rogers intentions, so I dont know if it really helps . |
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milnoc
join:2001-03-05
H3B
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said by jfmezei :The "dude" asking questions is the CRTC Chair, Konrad von Kinckenstein. That's Finckenstein! Don't screw up now!  |
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DJMASACRE
join:2008-05-27
Nepean, ON | reply to O G
I like this lady so far ... |
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drewis
Premium
join:2006-09-04
Hamilton, ON | reply to milnoc
yeah this does sound like juniper is kind of biased here, kind of like trying to sell their concepts... |
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static416
join:2007-01-26
Toronto, ON
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| said by drewis :yeah this does sound like juniper is kind of biased here, kind of like trying to sell their concepts... Anyone else scared by the concept of variable billing based on the time of day to curb usage? Like UBB on steriods.
Also the "open garden" idea he's talking about is essentially a consumer-regulated traffic shaping. Interesting idea. Better than the ISP determining it at least. The problem comes in when they start asking for more money for certain sites. |
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DJMASACRE
join:2008-05-27
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| said by static416 :said by drewis :yeah this does sound like juniper is kind of biased here, kind of like trying to sell their concepts... Anyone else scared by the concept of variable billing based on the time of day to curb usage? Like UBB on steriods. Also the "open garden" idea he's talking about is essentially a consumer-regulated traffic shaping. Interesting idea. Better than the ISP determining it at least. The problem comes in when they start asking for more money for certain sites. yeah i dont think this has anything to do with the validity of Bell or Rogers practices anymore... they are just going on their own ideas of stuff now... good ol network companies.. who gets to decide which applications get whitelisted or prioritizing . ok maybe the consumer sure, but then how will Bell or Rogers make their money like that =P |
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mlerner
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| reply to static416
Pretty much everything he's talking about can also be used in a negative way, such as Bell is deploying DPI and blacklisting all P2P for a certain time of the day. I'm afraid that the CRTC will not look deeper into the issue and see blacklisting/whitelisting as a solution which is not at all a solution to congestion when Bell has essentially neglected to upgrade. |
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drewis
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Hamilton, ON
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+1 exactly what im interpreting these presentations as..
exactly, they are presenting two sides without coming to a point of their argument. |
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DJMASACRE
join:2008-05-27
Nepean, ON | reply to O G
lol ... Juniper guys seem to see a lot of congestion with their own laptops on the network. |
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static416
join:2007-01-26
Toronto, ON
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| reply to DJMASACRE
said by DJMASACRE :yeah i dont think this has anything to do with the validity of Bell or Rogers practices anymore... they are just going on their own ideas of stuff now... good ol network companies.. who gets to decide which applications get whitelisted or prioritizing . ok maybe the consumer sure, but then how will Bell or Rogers make their money like that =P He's careful not to explicitly state that the methods he's suggesting for traffic management are not employed by Bell or Rogers. In fact the Bell and Rogers solutions are much more draconian and anti-consumer than the 'theoretical' stuff he's talking about. |
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DJMASACRE
join:2008-05-27
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·Bell Sympatico
| said by static416 :said by DJMASACRE :yeah i dont think this has anything to do with the validity of Bell or Rogers practices anymore... they are just going on their own ideas of stuff now... good ol network companies.. who gets to decide which applications get whitelisted or prioritizing . ok maybe the consumer sure, but then how will Bell or Rogers make their money like that =P He's careful not to explicitly state that the methods he's suggesting for traffic management are not employed by Bell or Rogers. In fact the Bell and Rogers solutions are much more draconian and anti-consumer than the 'theoretical' stuff he's talking about. yeah i see that. but will the CRTC =) |
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static416
join:2007-01-26
Toronto, ON | Wow, they explicitly asked if ISP-determined traffic shaping being used in Canada, and he dodged the question. |
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