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InvalidError

join:2008-02-03
·TekSavvy Solutions..
·Videotron

reply to cpsycho
Re: Its the Traffic Management Super Bowl!

said by cpsycho See Profile :

here is another reason why we need more CO's.
COs are artifacts of the past where line-cards were far too large (over a square foot per line) and power-hungry to be deployed in the field, making stringing kilometers of copper the only way to get people phone services.

In new developments where Bell deploys FTTN gear, I would be really surprised if Bell still bothered to run copper loops all the way to the CO instead of completely terminating the line (DSL+voice) on a multi-service line card in the FTTN remote. With all the line electronics out in the field, a FTTN-era CO only needs a few racks worth of gear to connect all the local FTTN nodes to the WAN mesh.

cpsycho

join:2008-06-03
Orangeville, ON
reply to twizlar
Like I said I'm not sure.

I thought 151 front was a sort of a major fibre hub for peering outside of Canada.

But like I said I'm not sure.


twizlar
I dont think so.
Premium
join:2003-12-24
Brantford, ON

151 Front Street is basically the telecommunications hub for ontario. It has nothing to do with Bell's own network other than they have space there, and terminate a lot of fibre there just like many other providers.
--
Broadline Networks Inc.


An_Onymous

@teksavvy.com
reply to InvalidError
They might run wires back to the CO to use as a large UPS.

cpsycho

join:2008-06-03
Orangeville, ON
·Wightman Telecom
·Rogers Hi-Speed

reply to InvalidError
I don't think they are deploying fttn in Orangeville. A new subdivision just went in vary close to my place and it looks like they ran standard equipment to some brown long box, when I'm out later today, I will take a pic of it. If I remember to bring my camera.

That box is around 4.5 km from the CO in Orangeville.


twizlar
I dont think so.
Premium
join:2003-12-24
Brantford, ON
All new deployments would be FTTN based. That brown box is likely a RDSLAM or stinger.
--
Broadline Networks Inc.


An_Onymous

@teksavvy.com
reply to O G
CRTC hearing transcript is out for day 1:
»www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/transcripts/2···0706.htm

InvalidError

join:2008-02-03
·TekSavvy Solutions..
·Videotron

reply to cpsycho
said by cpsycho See Profile :

I don't think they are deploying fttn in Orangeville. A new subdivision just went in vary close to my place and it looks like they ran standard equipment to some brown long box, when I'm out later today, I will take a pic of it. If I remember to bring my camera.
There really isn't any reason for a voice+DSL card to look any different from a plain DSL-only card: DSLAMs sport DSPs with thousands of times more processing power than what is required to apply the 30+ years old DTMF and voice filtering/compression algorithms needed by PSTN.

Since the DSLAM already has code to interface with the backplane using Ethernet frames, adding POTS-over-Ethernet capability to a DSLAM requires very little (if any) extra hardware and integration some well-documented ancient algorithms to the firmware... the coding effort is nearly trivial, definitely well below the cost of having separate cards for voice and data.

cpsycho

join:2008-06-03
Orangeville, ON
reply to O G
alright here is the box, its brand new and put in place for around 60 houses.


static416

join:2007-01-26
Toronto, ON
Holy crap, these two guys are kicking major ass.

cpsycho

join:2008-06-03
Orangeville, ON
yeah no kidding. I'm loving this. The idea of advertising their throttled speed, I thought of when I bitched about rogers.

confq

join:2008-04-26
Toronto, ON
reply to O G
you really need a friend feed page so it can update in real time and stay logged for later viewing..

like this lol

»friendfeed.com/qberry

dandin1

join:2008-05-27
reply to O G
I don't like that mention of regulating peering though. The idea is that it should work by itself because it is advantageous for everyone. Bell are just d-bags, t'is all.


peer 99

@videotron.ca

said by dandin1 See Profile :

I don't like that mention of regulating peering though.
Part of the "latency" problems IS Bell's peering (throttle aside).


Media Controls

@videotron.ca

reply to O G
Figured I'd share the collection of Mainstream Media releases on the hearings:

Day 1
»www.financialpost.com/story.html?id=1757953

»www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/s···=SciTech

»www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2009···?ref=rss

»www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2009···ngs.html

»www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2009/07/···?ref=rss

»www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2008···bic.html

»www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2009···faq.html

»www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2008···ine.html

»technology.canoe.ca/2009/07/06/1···-cp.html

»www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/process/2009/jul06_t.htm

»www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/NEWS/SPEECHES···0706.htm

»www.montrealgazette.com/Technolo···ory.html

»network.nationalpost.com/np/blog···ngs.aspx

»www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/4103/125/

»www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/4101/135/

»network.nationalpost.com/np/blog···eon.aspx

»www.cippic.ca/crtc-hearing-day-1-summary/

»www.itworldcanada.com/a/News/d26···c45.html

»www.financialpost.com/story.html?id=1764958

DAY 2:

»www.vancouversun.com/Technology/···ory.html

»www.ottawacitizen.com/News/Micha···ory.html

»www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2009···zip.html

»www.thestar.com/business/article/661785

If you find more "Mainstream media" reports add to the list by the day it represents.

Curious how the individual "media" outlets will portray all this on a day by day basis.


Media Controls

@videotron.ca
BTW:
So far I noticed nothing at all from Quebecor Media (ie. Videotron) on any of this.


oopsie

@videotron.ca
reply to Media Controls
stand corrected: there is one:
»technology.canoe.ca/2009/07/06/1···-cp.html

Lewism8

join:2008-04-25
Quebec, QC
Yeah, but it's copy and paste from the Canadian Press. They don't care or they do not want to.


Media Controls

@videotron.ca

said by Lewism8 See Profile :

Yeah, but it's copy and paste from the Canadian Press. They don't care or they do not want to.
If you think so then separate CDN press from actual "paper reporting".

Use the list, and others reports coming out, and break it up as you see it.

If its all the same thing in every media, then make a header called "all the same" and copy/paste the URLS that are the same in that header.

Media control of this is just as important.

Davesnothere

join:2009-06-15


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reply to Media Controls
Day 1

Yahoo USA has this under Yahoo Canadian Tech News :

»ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/0907···_traffic

May be same as CP story, but it's getting around....
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